Intel regains crown

Action_Man · Mar 10, 2006

Fair enough. Its just that you tacked your question on after you said some fanboy comment which gave it a negative connatation or at least to me it did.

dvdpiddy · Mar 10, 2006

what? dude you lost me there for a second

Action_Man · Mar 10, 2006

no how k10 is gonna wipe intel out and what kind of a name is action man?

You said that.

no how k10 is gonna wipe intel out and

Fanboy comment.

and what kind of a name is action man?

Legit question tacked on.

dvdpiddy · Mar 10, 2006

ok man just please stop confusing me ok dude i hate being confused

Action_Man · Mar 10, 2006

Sigh, nevermind.

luminaris · Mar 10, 2006

Prozac, thanks for supplying us with such valuable information in this thread.

I mean, the title says it all, Intel regains crown and yet, there you are with your Intel/AMD insight: What came first, the chicken or the egg.

I envy you and you are now officially my hero!

ak47is1337 · Mar 10, 2006

ok man just please stop confusing me ok dude i hate being confused

Lmao

Heyyou27 · Mar 10, 2006

ok man just please stop confusing me ok dude i hate being confused

AMD fanboys...

dvdpiddy · Mar 10, 2006

what? dude hes confusing me with big words like intel is confusing the public with conroe

Action_Man · Mar 10, 2006

I know! People can't comprehend how owned AMD is!

SumDumGuy · Mar 10, 2006

stop being retaredededtetetdtetdtetdtetdtetedtetdtetdtetdtetetdtetdtet

OMFG are you still talking? Are you still consuming precious oxygen? Kid, listen, I don't know how you managed to bypass the parental controls on your PC, but I think it's lights out time for you. Go grab your favorite dolly, put on a fresh Huggies pull-up and hit the sack junior. Dont pick on dvd. You mess with piddy, you mess with......well piddy. But thats not cool.

Caboose.... I think if you read the entire thread, you would understand why I made this comment... but I'm not on paid time now, and therefore have no desire to argue with or insult anyone.

apache_lives · Mar 10, 2006

chill people

conroes ahead, AMD took out the P4, P4 took out the Athlon XP, P3 Tualatin Took out the Athlon (AND P4

) - LEAP FROG

I believe dvd piddy when he says the K10 (or what will be in place and if they keep the name) will rule - AMD changes there designs and calls it by a higher number so K10 would be improvements and anything might happen (amd could turn into a P4 styled high clock speed design but better, or could even do a conroe'er and beat em at there own game and get more performance from lower clocks).

athlonium · Mar 10, 2006

nothing extra ordinary about conroe...coz conroe based on pentium m/pentium iii architecture...basically they have same IPC like athlon but the different is they have more cache than athlon x2.

athlon x2 1mb can beat p4 that have more cache becoz p4 have a stupid architecture...however conroe not using that stupid netburst ...and of course conroe win coz they using 4mb x 2 cache vs 1mb x 2 cache of athlon...

so what amd need to do...is just load more cache on athlon .... done...

apache_lives · Mar 10, 2006

nothing extra ordinary about conroe...coz conroe based on pentium m/pentium iii architecture...basically they have same IPC like athlon but the different is they have more cache than athlon x2.

athlon x2 1mb can beat p4 that have more cache becoz p4 have a stupid architecture...however conroe not using that stupid netburst ...and of course conroe win coz they using 4mb x 2 cache vs 1mb x 2 cache of athlon...

so what amd need to do...is just load more cache on athlon .... done...

(ALSO POSTED IN THE OTHER)

P4's architecture aint stupid it took on the K7 with ease but the K8 was designed to beat it and it did the same as conroe beats the K8, and was about time it was replaced.

Conroes cache is 1x4mb shared not 2x4mb and cache doesnt matter as much depending on architecture, ram speed/location and FSB, twice the cache might translate into 10% performance at best depending on original size.

Conroe is P6 based (pentium pro -> P2 -> P3 -> pm).

And yes take your BS elsewhere and do some research, and look at the old northwood c take on a prescott with twice the cache and the same clock speeds - northwood wins!!! explain that.

Dam noob

Ycon · Mar 10, 2006

AMD cant put more Cache in their processor cause they architecture would respond with performance penalties (whos got the stupid architecture now?).

More Cache and done... *roflz*
Then anyone could that Intel should put the Memory Controller inside the CPU and theyll be ahead forever (which kind of probably would be the case).

ak47is1337 · Mar 10, 2006

It hasn't really leapfrogged at all. Last 2-3 years have been AMD dominated. It's Intel's turn now.

YO_KID37 · Mar 10, 2006

No, i think the only reason Conroe Won because Intel finally cleaned up and De-bugged their 65nm Technology and have learned to make the 65nm chips and the new DDR2 Rams wokr and play togeather. While the FX-60 was still running its old and trusty DDR1 and 90nm chips. but i think Intel has just learned to make use of their new Technology better if not more effectifely. But if AM2 gets into 65nm and DDR2-800 and if some how uses more Cache and or somehow eases or removes some memory Bottlenecks it would easly overtake any Conroe Processer.
Past, Present or Future!!

ak47is1337 · Mar 10, 2006

No, the 65nm they use in Cedar Mills/Preslers is not "bugged". It performed far better because it's now based on a far better architecture. Also, AMD won't have 65nm until '07.

Mind_Rebuilding · Mar 10, 2006

AMD cant put more Cache in their processor cause they architecture would respond with performance penalties (whos got the stupid architecture now?).

More Cache and done... *roflz*
Then anyone could that Intel should put the Memory Controller inside the CPU and theyll be ahead forever (which kind of probably would be the case).

Who got the stupid architecture now? Intel's

ak47is1337 · Mar 10, 2006

AMD cant put more Cache in their processor cause they architecture would respond with performance penalties (whos got the stupid architecture now?).

More Cache and done... *roflz*
Then anyone could that Intel should put the Memory Controller inside the CPU and theyll be ahead forever (which kind of probably would be the case).

Who got the stupid architecture now? Intel's
As I stated earlier, 5ghz Netburst > 3ghz K8

Ycon · Mar 10, 2006

Do you have any proof, Mind_Destructive?

mechluke · Mar 10, 2006

Guys i personally think that if intel compared the conroe chip with an am2 the difference would be much bigger.We all know that currently an fx60 is faster than an am2 processor.Also keep in mind that intel overclocked fx60.It seems that conroe is invincible at the moment.

Ycon · Mar 10, 2006

Well, I think it could be possible that AMD could match Conroe´s performance in WinRAR, thanks to their memory performance.

ak47is1337 · Mar 10, 2006

Guys i personally think that if intel compared the conroe chip with an am2 the difference would be much bigger.We all know that currently an fx60 is faster than an am2 processor.Also keep in mind that intel overclocked fx60.It seems that conroe is invincible at the moment.

Yes, but this is due to the fact the the AM2 memory controller used in testing was buggy.
However, the fact remains that Conroe would kick the shit out of an improved version anyway. Some people bitch about AM2 not having DDR2-800, but Conroe didn't have that either. Anyway, the Conroe they tested with is not even the fastest version.

dvdpiddy · Mar 10, 2006

dudes you forgot something i heard a long time ago that if you oc an amd proc it will lose some memory performance because of the integrated memory controller i dont know if its true i'll go ask mike

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