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Well, even if it's just really minor bumps, there are some: video output and sound (a proper DAC? weird).

I don't think those justify a new chipset altogether, but we'll have to see what they do with the current Z370. A decent price drop on them might actually help Intel, but cannibalize a bit the B360 market?

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Intel Z390
Intel updates PCH datasheet with 300 series chipsets, including the Z390.
Intel confirms Z390 specifications

The Z370 chipset is commonly considered a rushed product delivering questionable differences over Z270 motherboards. In fact, Flex I/O lane specifications are mirrored for both chipsets. Officially Z370 only support Coffee Lake processors due to differences in the LGA1151 socket. Has Z390 delivered more changes to Intel’s Lake family?

Technically yes, the Z390 has more differences over Z370, starting with USB 3.1 Gen 2 support. The lane specs are different too, but the number of them has not changed.

Intel has not really made any official introduction of the new chipset. We are only finding this by browsing Intel website, which is quite odd. However, this could mean that Computex Z390 showcase might actually happen. The previous embargo date was set to September, but the recent announcement from AMD could have affected those plans.

The following chart is a comparison between Z390 and Z370 lane specs. There was no point in including Z270 here since lanes are the same for Z370.

Please note: in Intel documents 200-series/Z370 lanes start from 0, whereas 300-series/Z390 lanes start from 1.
https://videocardz.com/76275/intel-releases-full-specifications-of-z390-chipset
 

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Intel To Launch Spring Crest, Its First Neural Network Processor, In 2019

At its first AI Developer Conference, Intel announced the Nervana NNP-L1000, which is the first neural network processor (NNP) to come out of the Nervana acquisition. The chip will prioritize memory bandwidth and compute utilization over theoretical peak performance.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-neural-network-processor-lake-crest,37105.html
 

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Intel - Going Nowhere, Fast.
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Analyzing Intel's apparent capitulation.

[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAx9G5PqBzM&feature=youtu.be"][/video]
 
That video is a great summary (or re-cap) of what we've been discussing here, plus a few interesting tidbits we haven't.

The EIMB idea to take the center of Intel's strategy going forth and the "mix and match" with different node sizes is interesting to pull off, even if it's not ideal.

Also, the shed of light of the next EPYC being produced at TSMC is interesting.

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Yeah, analysis and source information was really good in this video. EMIB I believe is an attempt to help increase yields on 10nm CPUs while being able to use other reliable high yielding and less costly processes, and like Jim said even said 7nm AMD GPUs. It's a good work around for the problem with defects.
 

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Is Intel’s upcoming 10nm ‘launch’ real or a PR stunt?
Exclusive: We dug up the details that paint a clear picture
May 29, 2018 by Charlie Demerjian

https://www.semiaccurate.com/2018/05/29/is-intels-upcoming-10nm-launch-real-or-a-pr-stunt/
 

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Wow wow.

Early May some first hand sources suggested me yields where single digit. One of them added "even when expressed in binary" but I took that as a joke. Since then I've seen two more people stating on tweeter and forums that yield could actually be <1%, but I didn't consider them reliable sources.

Reading Charlie I realize it was not a joke :ouch::ouch::ouch:
 
Ouch... So it's under 1% and they've been going at it for 2+ years now? Damn, that's gotta hurt their pride. Specially when TSMC and even GloFo are, probably, already taping out their 7nm stuff (leaving which process is better aside, obviously) and looking directly into ramping up soon-ish.

Mr. Krzanich better kick some people around to turn this fast... The iceberg was spotted a while ago! xD!

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Apple poaches multiple Intel engineers as speculation grows about future Mac plans
https://9to5mac.com/2018/05/31/apple-intel-chip-engineers/

The hiring appears to have begun back in November, and is likely to further fuel speculation about Apple replacing Intel chips with its own ARM-based Mac CPUs within the next few years …
 

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Yeah, there seems to be a trend forming. Facebook is also looking into making it's own processors. Google uses a custom brand of AI chips. This kind of trend does not hold well for chip makers!
 

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On a different topic. Charlie Demerjian is very critical with XPoint DIMMS.
https://semiaccurate.com/2018/05/31/intel-dodges-every-question-at-apache-pass-xpoint-launch/

What I heard is that it is possible to tweak the process to improve either endurance, speed or density. But improving in one of those dimensions is detrimental in the other dimensions.
 

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Here is Intel’s embargo’d Computex press release a bit early
Luckily for you, we aren’t under embargo on this
Jun 4, 2018 by Charlie Demerjian

https://www.semiaccurate.com/2018/06/04/here-is-intels-embargod-computex-press-release-a-bit-early/

Intel’s 50 th anniversary, we also recognize the 40 th anniversary of Intel’s x86 architecture. In honor of that, we revealed the limited edition 8th Gen Intel® CoreTM i7-8086K processor, the first-ever CPU with a 5.0GHz turbo frequency. In celebration of this milestone, and our enthusiasts, we’re giving away 8,086 8th Gen Intel Core i7-8086K processors. Visit www.intel.com/8086sweepstakes for more information on markets and rules.
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Sweepstakes only available for residents of USA, Canada (excluding Quebec), UK, France, Germany, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and China (excluding Hong Kong). Entry will open for 24 hours on June 7th at 5:00 pm PST, closing June 8th at 5pm PST. No purchase required for entry. Entry to sweepstakes via online web submission only (internet access required). 2,086 processors available to be won in United States.
 

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Considering the 3.8 GHz server equivalent is around $10K get ready to spend an arm and a leg for one of those ;-)
 

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Just an arm and a leg? Firstborn child? Lol.
 


What about just giving your 3 next generations for slave trade instead or selling for parts?

I have the feeling that is just a "demo" thing and it won't see the light of day. Intel is very smart when manipulating the truth, so I'd wait for more information about it.

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The 28 core is 2.7GHz@stock, it was overclocked for the CB R15 test that lasted 7 sec. shown in a video. Videocardz.com was leaked the information early, and told Intel used a water chiller for the test setup.
 

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At Computex, Intel Demos A 28-Core Processor Clocked At 5GHz (Updated)
by Paul Alcorn June 5, 2018 at 7:40 AM

EDIT: According to this image we sourced from Engadget's compressed keynote video on YouTube, Intel apparently was running some sort of closed-loop cooling that required insulating material around the tubing. This could be a multi-stage phase cooler (sub-zero cooling), or possibly a more mundane water chiller, under the table. We also spot more shielding over the long rectangular waterblock and what appears to be six sticks of RAM flanking the processor on each side. That implies this platform is based on the (until now) enterprise-class LGA3647 socket. This means the processor could be a variant of the $8,700 Xeon Platinum Scalable processor we reviewed here, albeit with an unlocked multiplier. (That doesn't bode well for pricing). We'll dig for more details and update as necessary.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cpu-28-core-5-ghz,37201.html
 

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We Got a Sneak Peak on Intel’s 28-Core: All You Need To Know
by Ian Cutress on June 5, 2018 9:20 PM EST


Working from data taken from Intel’s current 28-core Xeon processor, the Xeon Platinum 8180, shows that the 8180 at 3.34 GHz can achieve a score of 5040. Doing the math and assuming perfect scaling (which Cinebench does well at) shows that the same processor at 5.0 GHz would score around 7560 points. The difference between that number and the 7334 that Intel scored is within the ballpark, so we are likely looking at an overclocked version of the Intel Xeon Platinum 8180.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12907/we-got-a-sneak-peak-on-intels-28core-all-you-need-to-know
 

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