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i've wondered: why doesn't intel open up it's mainstream mobile igpus to connect to on board (soldered on mobo) gddr5 vram. they'd have to either implement a gddr5 controller in the soc or trick the igpu into thinking it's accessing the system memory. i think that the second one can be done with firmware tweak. it'll relieve the bw issues with hd4400-5000. it'd raise the system power use though, but i'd be well worth the performance improvement. imo, way better than fabbing edram and making a dual-die package.

edit:
Broadwell for desktop comes in U 28W form
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/33453-broadwell-for-desktop-comes-in-u-28w-form
 


Why make design changes (more work) to help other companies make money (GDDR5 suppliers), when Intel has extra fab capacity to make their own cache memory? They'll have even more spare 22nm capacity once the mobile parts shift to 14nm.
 
new haswell core i3 review
Intel Core i3-4340, Core i3-4330 and Core i3-4130 Review
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-4340-4330-4130.html
i didn't like (apart from the price) how the core i3 4340 was so close to core i5 4430, and more than core i5 3330 in the 100% power consumption test. they should have tested without the discreet gfx card.
intel's website says core i3 4330 curiously doesn't support idle states. the hell.
http://ark.intel.com/products/77769/Intel-Core-i3-4330-Processor-4M-Cache-3_50-GHz?wapkw=intel+core+i3+4330
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same gpu type? i was hoping for a uarch upgrade. i am guessing the 20% more shaders and the lower tdp ratings come from node shrink...and it's kinda amazing intel pulled off three consecutive full-node shrink amidst issues while other foundries keeps on fumbling.
the encouraging part was that brw won't entirely ditch pcie 3.0, even in mobile. charlieD was wrong!!(not really). h-skus are likely aimed at high end laptops with discreet gfx.

 


Haswell is gen 7 so it's a new rev of the EU as well. In other statements I recall them saying 30% better performance so the EU are a minor upgrade (10%). I was expecting a higher number of EUs to be honest.
 
realworldtech on knights landing
http://www.realworldtech.com/knights-landing-details/

so this is why intel's igpu looks so half-assed
http://www.realworldtech.com/knights-landing-cpu-speculation/

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Intel Announces the Xeon E5-2400 v2 Series at CES
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/01/10/intel-announces-xeon-e5-2400-v2-series-ces/

edit2:
Intel Core "Haswell" Refresh Lineup Slated for Q2
http://www.techpowerup.com/196865/intel-core-haswell-refresh-lineup-slated-for-q2.html

Intel shelves cutting-edge Arizona chip factory
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/14/us-intel-arizona-idUSBREA0D1F920140114
 
Ill there be any new haswell chips this year? Or just the release of broadwell??

Also is their any speculation on performance gain on broadwell over haswell?
 

according to rumors, intel will launch new haswell cpus and chipsets this year. new chipets will be h97 and z97. new cpus may be core i7 4790k and i5 4690k or something similar. links to those rumors may be in one of the above posts. broadwell will be mostly for laptops early on, but there will be desktop cpus as well. whether they'd be socketed or bga (soldered to mobo), hasn't been confirmed or leaked. the performance gains in broadwell will mostly be in integrated graphics.
 

there hasn't been any significant performance gap to upgrade to subsequent new uarch since....2010 or may be earlier. from now it may stretch longer to 2-3 years or more. so you should keep expectations really low.
 
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this quote is from anand
Intel also shared some data on how it achieved substantial power savings with Haswell, including using a new stacked power gate for the memory interface that reduced leakage by 100x over Ivy Bridge.
now in image from tech it shows 10x
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if they are talking about sane thing then andy is using 10x intel fanboy multiplier 😛
 
Is the sky falling for Intel’s 14nm Broadwell?
How does reality line up with executive statement and internet stupidity?
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/02/19/sky-falling-intels-14nm-broadwell/
Intel releases Ivy Bridge-EX now known as Xeon E7 v2
20 new SKUs in three main lines make a big line of big chips
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/02/18/intel-releases-ivy-bridge-ex-now-known-xeon-e7-v2/
A technical look at Intel’s new Ivy Bridge-EX
The architecture and memory systems of this massive CPU
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/02/18/technical-look-intels-new-ivy-bridge-ex/
Intel’s Xeon E7 v2 ups the RAS game to new levels
Ivy Bridge-EX is far more than an bigger Ivy Bridge-EP
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/02/19/intels-xeon-e7-v2-ups-ras-game-new-levels/
 

i agree. intel is finally adding a decent-looking (from the specs) igpu and better memory support. although i couldn't gather if the imc has dual channel support. i also couldn't find anything about intel's plans with their lte modems. qualcomm has integrated lte and it wiped the floor with design wins last year. mediatek has one design with integrated lte modem (3rd party iirc) too.

this guy thinks cherry trail may have short shelf life:
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/01/27/a-tale-of-intels-cherry-trail.aspx
the site is openly intel-biased, though.

edit:
Broadwell NUC roadmap
http://www.fanlesstech.com/2014/02/exclusive-broadwell-nuc-roadmap.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7773/intels-three-versions-of-socket-2011-not-compatible
bonus(!): haswell-ep's eng. sample..?
 
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