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It's an interconnect moving away from monolithic dies. I'm pretty sure we seen some fabric like that somewhere. The approach allows cost saving by being able to use cheaper manufacturing processes.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/foundry/emib--an-interview-with-babak-sabi.html

"Using EMIB, Intel can package die within 100 microns of one another. That reduces space between the components, which also reduces the power required for data movement. Of course, it still isn't as efficient as an on-die monolithic implementation. At the show, Intel didn't provide power comparisons to standard silicon interposers. Instead, it compared EMIB to standard interconnects, like PCIe and DDR, found on motherboards.
We do know that a single chip can support up to 20,000 EMIB connections with up to 2Gbps of throughput each."

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-emib-interconnect-fpga-chiplet,35316.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11748/hot-chips-intel-emib-and-14nm-stratix-10-fpga-live-blog-845am-pt-345pm-utc
 


Doubt it... and with 2 more physical cores, expect the 6 core variants to run even hotter than kaby lake, aside from that, there's 0 difference between the two. 5ghz across all cores should prove more challenging than it was with 7700k.
 


Charlie again? How often has he been wrong now?
 


Once...that I am aware of...and I have been following him for about 5-6 years now.
 


Then you didn't pay enough attention.
 


Not sure what's going on here.
 
Honestly, I'm quite happy that AMD did what they did with their Ryzen series. It showed that the tech god, named Intel, could bleed.

Also, it's about time Intel finally realizes that maybe their X700K CPUs should have more than 4 cores... Games are starting to use more Cores, hell, even the 1080 Ti hits a "Speed Limit"(not bottleneck) with all the Quad Core CPUS. I probably will still end up buying the i9 7940X, due to the sheer performance of it, sit pretty while Intel moves into their Cannon Lakes (10nm/7nm), and optimizes the new CPU improvements that will be coming out after the 8XXX series.

All in all, I'm quite excited for what will come after this series. I can now finally put my 4790K to rest and remember it as one of the best CPU's I have ever owned.
 
AMD CPU Sales Overtake Intel For The First Time In Over A Decade At Germany’s Largest E-Tailer
By Khalid Moammer
7 hours ago
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Intel realized that, about three or four years ago when planned Coffee Lake would have more than four cores. Roadmaps leaked in 2016 showed this increase in number of cores.

CFL i7 = 6C / 12T
CFL i5 = 6C / 6T
CFL i3 = 4C / 4T
 


LOL. I'm guessing you have also seen the Ryzen and Piledriver CPU lids as well, right?

You're being obtuse on purpose now it seems. Why don't you try to bring some sales data from somewhere you usually go a get data to make a counter argument instead of trying to disprove the credibility of the source?

Cheers!
 


The source is WCCFTECH, which has nearly zero reputation, but that wasn't my point. My point is that Germany has been traditionally pro-AMD.

I have already given data before: from worldwide sales on Amazon showing which Intel CPU is the top-seller to worldwide Steam Hardware statistics.

Remember the recent WCFTECH article about RyZen worldwide sales?

AMD CPU Share up 10.4% in Q2, Its Largest Gain vs. Intel in History

AMD now commands 31% of the market, which constitutes the largest CPU share level the company has reached in a decade. O
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I said it was all hype and fake, and that once the cheating was removed from the database AMD would be between 21% and 22%.

Guess what? It is 22.10% today, which means that RyZen has only provided a mere 4% gain to AMD.
 


You are missing the point and the data that was just being reported by WCCFTECH. You attempt of defame the messenger, but offer no real argument for the data.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6xg3oe/wow_what_a_month_amd_finally_overtook_intel_cpu/
 


Ryzen is not produced in GloFo Fab 1 in Dresden, Germany. Fab 1 is capable of manufacturing wafers at 40nm, 28 nm BULK and 22 nm FDSOI. AMD (through glofo) production in Germany is past history, soon no AMD product will be produced there.

Ryzen is produced in Fab 8, Luther Forest Technology Campus, Saratoga County, New York, United States
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AMD market share in March was only 27% and climbed to 56% in just 5 months, there is much more going on than just "traditionally pro-AMD"
 


Wow, TR sales 3x than i9 in august. Although numbers are peanuts, AMD seems to be dominating HEDT, at least in Germany.
 


I have commented in the data. I have mentioned that it is data from a pro-AMD country as Germany and that data doesn't mean anything from a global point of view.
 

The fact WCCFTECH has to report sales from a well-known pro-AMD country just reflect global sales don't match the hype that they created during last two years of publishing clikbait articles.

They mentioned global marketshare once, but they used a cheated database. Once the database was corrected to reflect real-world data, they lost any interest in the database. Not only they never published another article about it, but they didn't even retract the old article with the incorrect data. Now they retort to Germany local sales to continue with the hype and dissinformation.

Cho cho!
 


http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3491295/amd-ryzen-threadripper-x399-megathread-faq-resources/page-3.html#20132683
 
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Intel's higher IPC may make a 6 core w/hyperthreading keep up with AMD's 8 core with multithreading. I'd like to see if it will actually make an improvement over my 4690k. Up to this point I haven't seen anything that would motivate me to swap.
 
Intel Core i7-8700K, Core i7-8600K, Core i3-8350K and More 8th Gen Coffee Lake Desktop CPUs Listed For Pre-Order – Launch Imminent in Early October
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By Hassan Mujtaba
1 min ago
Intel’s upcoming 8th generation desktop platforms have taken the internet by storm and there’s nothing that can stop them. In reaction to the leaks, online retailers have started listing the CPUs (Coffee Lake) up for pre-order along with engineering samples that are available on several China based retail sites.

Intel Coffee Lake Pre-Orders Pop Up at Online Retail Stores – Core i7-8700K, Core i5-8600K and Core i3-8350K Included In The Listings
There are a plethora of online retail sites that have listed the Intel 8th gen desktop processors codenamed Coffee Lake. Of course, I won’t be mentioning prices as they vary from retailer to retailer and are not indicative of the final MSRPs which would be much lower. Regardless, you might want to check out the following package names to find if your nearest retailers has the Coffee Lake desktop chips listed for pre-order.
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Note – Final clocks are still not determined, the clock frequencies mentioned below are directly from Intel slides however pre-orders reveal different clock speeds so take them with a pinch of salt.
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Intel Core i7-8700K – The Coffee Lake Flagship With 6 Cores and 4.3 GHz Boost Across All Cores
The Intel Core i7-8700K will be the flagship processor of the lineup. It will feature 6 cores and 12 threads. The chip will be compatible with the LGA 1151 socket and rumors are that board makers will extend support of Coffee Lake onto 200-series and even 100-series platforms. The chip will be Intel’s first hexa core product and will be based on the 14nm process node.
In terms of clock speeds, we are looking at a 3.7 GHz base frequency which boosts up to 4.3 GHz (6 core), 4.4 GHz (4 core), 4.5 GHz (2 core) and 4.7 GHz (1 core). These clocks are really impressive so we can expect much faster gaming performance on Coffee Lake parts than the current generation of CPUs. The chip is fully unlocked allowing for overclocking and comes with a TDP of 95W. There’s 12 MB of L3 cache on board along with a GT2 tier iGPU. The chip supports DDR4-2666 MHz memory (native) and up to 4400 MHz+ (OC). We can expect the Core i7-8700K to cost around $349 US when it launches in Q3 2017.

Intel Core i5-8600K – The Gamer Aimed Hexa Core With Overclocking Capability and 4.4 GHz Boost
The Intel Core i5-8600K is the second unlocked chip in the lineup and features a hexa core design. We have learned that Intel Core i5 series will stick with 6 cores but they will not feature a multi-threaded design. The chip probably features 9 MB of L3 cache while being supported on the LGA 1151 socket.

In terms of clock speeds, we are looking at 3.5 GHz base, 4.2 GHz (6 core), 4.2 GHz (4 core), 4.2 GHz (2 core) and 4.4 GHz (1 core) boost clocks. The chip will feature a TDP of 95W and we can expect a price range of around $249 US which will make it a pretty good option for gamers that want some extra cores in their hands.

Intel Core i3-8350K – A Quad Core i3 Processor With 4 GHz Clock Speed
The Intel Core i3-8350K might be the only Core i3 chip in the 8th Gen family that enables overclocking support. Intel’s 8th Gen Core i3 family is also the first to feature 4 cores which will be a great deal for budget builders. The Intel Core i3 8350K comes with 4 cores and 4 threads that are clocked at 4.0 GHz. The chip features 8 MB of cache and will feature a TDP of 95W.

There’s also the Intel Core i3-8100 which is a 4 core, non-multi threaded SKU. This chip has a lower clock speed of 65W and features a clock speed of 3.6 GHz. There’s total of 6 MB of L3 cache on the processor itself which confirms the exclusion of multi-threading. The Intel Core i3 chips will not feature boost clocks but they will have a more stable base clock speed and we can expect prices of the chips to be in the sub-$200 US range.

Intel Pentium G4660, Pentium G4700 and Pentium G4720 With 2 Cores, 4 Threads and Upto 3.9 GHz Clock Speeds Also Detailed – Under $100 US
The Intel Coffee Lake family will also feature at least three Pentium series SKUs that include the Pentium G4660, Pentium G4700 and the Pentium G4720. These chips will feature 2 cores and 4 threads with clock speeds rated up to 3.90 GHz. There will also be 4 MB of L3 cache on board the chips and prices will be adjusted around the $100 US bracket. Rest of the processors that will be featured in the family are listed below.
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Uhm... This will be an interesting dilemma to have now... Go for the "de-facto" i5 as gaming king or move that to the i7...

Given the trend and all of the leverage the extra cores have given the -E moar-core sibling in a lot of titles, the i7 might be the new "value" king, even being way more expensive? Haha, Intel better play this one carefully. The next i7 from mainstream might eat part of the entry HEDT market, making the 7820X a stupid and useless stopgap.

Cheers!
 
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