Is this a good gaming rig, nice for the next few years?

[spyguy001]

I would like to know if these specs can be good for a gaming pc. I am really new at this and i want to build a good gaming pc that is preferably better than the ps4 specs and will last me a few years without upgrading anything. Also, the link is here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7782889&sku=B69-1560

I am grateful for any additional info you guys could provide, for ex, how much will a pc cost minimally that will beat the ps4 or xbox720 specs and last about 1-3 years more with any new games on at least medium-high settings.

 

[brpeden82]

Im not a fanboy i just go with what works. i like AMD graphics card and own a couple of them. The fact remains it takes 8 core AMD CPU to take on a quad core Intel. i got my power supply like you did a a decent wattage for the same price as a low wattage.

According to BF4 beta, the 8 core AMD beats the 4 core i5's and runs a tight race with i7's and HTT.

Just saying...try to be more objective. AMD is a lot better than most people give them credit for.

According to Tomshardware BF4 beta benchmarks the i7 3960X and I5 2500k beat a 8350. my point is he gave almost $200 for a 8350 i dont see where $20-$40 more for a I5 would hurt his budget. i could understand if he went a 8320 or 6300 on a budget

 

[SamGriffiths]

Im not a fanboy i just go with what works. i like AMD graphics card and own a couple of them. The fact remains it takes 8 core AMD CPU to take on a quad core Intel. i got my power supply like you did a a decent wattage for the same price as a low wattage.

According to BF4 beta, the 8 core AMD beats the 4 core i5's and runs a tight race with i7's and HTT.

Just saying...try to be more objective. AMD is a lot better than most people give them credit for.

According to Tomshardware BF4 beta benchmarks the i7 3960X and I5 2500k beat a 8350. my point is he gave almost $200 for a 8350 i dont see where $20-$40 more for a I5 would hurt his budget. i could understand if he went a 8320 or 6300 on a budget

Jesus Christ, I'm glad the i7 3960x beat the FX-8350, as it is 5x the price, I bet it's not 5x as fast.

As far as I'm concerned the BattleField 4 Beta isn't a reliable benchmark, as it's very buggy and poorly optimised.

Looking around I can't find any legit gaming benchmarks comparing an i5 to an FX-8350 in more than 2 games. aside from TekSyndicate's videos (Who by the way I trust very much personally), a lot of benchmarks I see are obvious b******t, with an i5 getting 100 FPS and a FX 8350 getting 10 FPS.

 

[8350rocks]

Looking at it, i didnt really need the mobo features, so i went with the entry level one. I did check some reviews though, to make sure i made a good choice.

The Intel/Nvidia for the win phrase seemed fanboy-ish, IMO. Just saying. Still, i won't notice the difference between the i5 and the 8350, so that's all good for me. This is me giving AMD a second chance.

The 280X should play everything on ultra settings for a while, and you can easily overclock AMD cards with the manufacturer software. For example, my 7870XT runs @ 925 MHz stock, and it's running @ 1100 MHz right now. I used TwiXX from Sapphire to do my OC; however MSI, Gigabyte and Asus all have their own software.

 

[8350rocks]

Im not a fanboy i just go with what works. i like AMD graphics card and own a couple of them. The fact remains it takes 8 core AMD CPU to take on a quad core Intel. i got my power supply like you did a a decent wattage for the same price as a low wattage.

According to BF4 beta, the 8 core AMD beats the 4 core i5's and runs a tight race with i7's and HTT.

Just saying...try to be more objective. AMD is a lot better than most people give them credit for.

According to Tomshardware BF4 beta benchmarks the i7 3960X and I5 2500k beat a 8350. my point is he gave almost $200 for a 8350 i dont see where $20-$40 more for a I5 would hurt his budget. i could understand if he went a 8320 or 6300 on a budget

Jesus Christ, I'm glad the i7 3960x beat the FX-8350, as it is 5x the price, I bet it's not 5x as fast.

As far as I'm concerned the BattleField 4 Beta isn't a reliable benchmark, as it's very buggy and poorly optimised.

Looking around I can't find any legit gaming benchmarks comparing an i5 to an FX-8350 in more than 2 games. aside from TekSyndicate's videos (Who by the way I trust very much personally), a lot of benchmarks I see are obvious b******t, with an i5 getting 100 FPS and a FX 8350 getting 10 FPS.

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[SamGriffiths]

PCP Part List #6

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (Purchased For $197.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $29.99)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (Purchased For $98.98)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $72.00)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (Purchased For $75.00)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $64.64)
Wireless Network Adapter: D-Link DWA-566 802.11a/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (Purchased For $30.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $97.00)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 950W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (Purchased For $120.00)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $26.00)
Mouse: Razer Dragon Age II DeathAdder Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $46.99)
Speakers: Logitech Z313 25W 2.1ch Speakers (Purchased For $40.00)
Headphones: Corsair Vengeance 1300 5.1 Channel Headset (Purchased For $45.00)
Other: Cooler Master CM Quickfire Ultimate (Purchased For $80.00)
Other: Samsung SyncMaster S24C310 Monitor (Purchased For $160.00)
Other: Samsung SyncMaster S24C310 Monitor (Purchased For $160.00)
Other: LifeCam VX3000 (Purchased For $10.00)
Other: R9-280X or R9-290 ($400.00)
Total: $1753.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-08 21:35 EDT-0400)

Well, i do agree that i wont be able to feel the difference between the two, so here it is. I still don't know about the GPU, though...
Its a very tough choice. I'm aiming for minimal buyer's remorse. I need opinions with supporting values. Help, please. It's almost finished.

Well, I think that's it for the part deciding, and it only took 6 months, now on to building it, I expect some pictures of the finished build when your done =P

 

[spyguy001]

Well, with all the help, i'd be an idiot to not provide pictures. I already have a lot of them for the individual parts. The choice of the GPU depends totally on the price of the 290. But i figure it will take its time and i'll only be able to pre-order. So, i'd put the date of the build on around 27 Oct - 7 Nov. You can expect the pictures to be uploaded from the new rig 😀

 

[SamGriffiths]

Well, with all the help, i'd be an idiot to not provide pictures. I already have a lot of them for the individual parts. The choice of the GPU depends totally on the price of the 290. But i figure it will take its time and i'll only be able to pre-order. So, i'd put the date of the build on around 27 Oct - 7 Nov. You can expect the pictures to be uploaded from the new rig 😀

Get that cable management right mate =P with a rig this nice, you've put a lot of money into it, so put some effort into making it look amazing.

Which is cheaper in Canada? A 770 or a R8 280x?

Because they're have about the same performance, the 770 is a tiny bit faster in some games.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/61201-amd-radeon-r9-280x-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-4k/

 

[spyguy001]

Well, looking on PCP, the 280X models are much cheaper than the 770 ones. The difference between their cheapest models is about $70.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=137,148&sort=a5

I hope to do everything right. So, far, i don't regret anything i've bought. No buyer's remorse whatsoever. I hope it stays that way with the video card.

 

[8350rocks]

Well, looking on PCP, the 280X models are much cheaper than the 770 ones. The difference between their cheapest models is about $70.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=137,148&sort=a5

I hope to do everything right. So, far, i don't regret anything i've bought. No buyer's remorse whatsoever. I hope it stays that way with the video card.

That 280X is a monster, and you should be able to easily overclock with the vendor software.

 

[spyguy001]

I don't want to regret buying it, though, if the R9-290 turns out to be only $400. If it doesn't, then i wont feel bad as i will get to test boot before i assemble the whole thing, but if it does turn out to be $400 though, and i buy the R9-280X for $380 instead, i'll be mad.

So, yeah.

PS: What's the best time during the build to install the PSU?

 

[brpeden82]

what r9-280x cost 380. the most expensive ive seen is asus matrix it 360 most others are 299-320

I install the motherboard first then the drives connect front panel leads and then install the power supply

 

[SamGriffiths]

I don't want to regret buying it, though, if the R9-290 turns out to be only $400. If it doesn't, then i wont feel bad as i will get to test boot before i assemble the whole thing, but if it does turn out to be $400 though, and i buy the R9-280X for $380 instead, i'll be mad.

So, yeah.

PS: What's the best time during the build to install the PSU?

For the best cable management, I'd shove the PSU in first, rout all cables then install the motherboard with CPU, CPU Cooler and ram already installed on it, then I install the storage, all it takes is routing a Sata cables and screwing as the Sata power is already routed, then I do the front panel I/O and finally the GPU.

I'd do the GPU last as it can really get in the way sometimes.

 

[spyguy001]

Well, the Matrix Platinum 280X is 380 with original cost plus shipping. Anyone know why its priced so high? Give me all the reasons, please.

For whats installed already, well, the two optical and storage drives are installed already.

 

[SamGriffiths]

Well, the Matrix Platinum 280X is 380 with original cost plus shipping. Anyone know why its priced so high? Give me all the reasons, please.

For whats installed already, well, the two optical and storage drives are installed already.

Yeah, it doesn't really matter if you storage and optical go in first, but it is kind of important that you put the CPU, CPU Cooler and Ram on the board because you put it in the case, so you can hold the CPU Cooler when putting it in and also ithe cooler a real b%^£* to get on after the motherboard is in the case.

 

[spyguy001]

I've heard that a lot and am assuredly going to put them on the mobo before i put the mobo in the case. I'm just waiting on a time.

 

[spyguy001]

Oh, yeah. What advantages does the ASUS MATRIX PLATINUM R9-280X have over the DIRECT CUII R9-280X? And what does the DIRECT CUII have over the stock R9-280X?

And what's so special about the Msi Lightning TwinFrozr one?

 

[SamGriffiths]

Oh, yeah. What advantages does the ASUS MATRIX PLATINUM R9-280X have over the DIRECT CUII R9-280X? And what does the DIRECT CUII have over the stock R9-280X?

And what's so special about the Msi Lightning TwinFrozr one?

MSI has really good cooling, asus DCII has good cooling, Matrixs has been overclocked heavily at Asus's lab to make sure it can do it and it looks a bit cooler, the stock one runs a bit hot.

 

[spyguy001]

So... all it is is good cooling and overclocking? Something i can do myself with a decent non-reference cooler card. So... the Matrix Platinum is just an overclocked DCII?

 

[SamGriffiths]

So... all it is is good cooling and overclocking? Something i can do myself with a decent non-reference cooler card. So... the Matrix Platinum is just an overclocked DCII?

It's a overclock certified card, also with shipping damage aside it shouldn't be DOA because it's been stress tested.

But yes, the only differences is the cooling and the overclocking.

 

[spyguy001]

Hmm, tough choice. Is the Matrix Platinum edition worth it? Or should i go with the DCII if the R9-290 turns out to be over 500?

 

[SamGriffiths]

Hmm, tough choice. Is the Matrix Platinum edition worth it? Or should i go with the DCII if the R9-290 turns out to be over 500?

Go with the DCii or the MSI, both are very good choices.

 

[spyguy001]

Alright. Lets see if the R9-290 matches the price set forth. I don't really believe it will be $400 even though i hope it is, i'm thinking more along a $450 - 475 pricepoint, which is affordable if i can wait a little longer to build. Any thoughts on when the NDA is going to be lifted?

 

[SamGriffiths]

Alright. Lets see if the R9-290 matches the price set forth. I don't really believe it will be $400 even though i hope it is, i'm thinking more along a $450 - 475 pricepoint, which is affordable if i can wait a little longer to build. Any thoughts on when the NDA is going to be lifted?

I've heard from places November 11th, but I don't know if that's true.

 

[spyguy001]

'M preety sure its not november. I would guess it best at Oct 24 and best at Oct 29. It has to coincide with BF4 lauch.

 

[SamGriffiths]

'M preety sure its not november. I would guess it best at Oct 24 and best at Oct 29. It has to coincide with BF4 lauch.

Why does it have to?