Kepler news and discussion

[I am a PC]

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PhotoBucket "VideoBucket" ?

 

[RussK1]

PhotoBucket "VideoBucket" ?

At the top of the dialog box when you're adding a reply here on Toms, at the top there's an option "view more"; click it and select "insert a videos provided code"... the icon looks like film with a + sign. Hover your mouse over the icons and tooltips will show up.

 

[I am a PC]

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At the top of the dialog box when you're adding a reply here on Toms, at the top there's an option "view more"; click it and select "insert a videos provided code"... the icon looks like film with a + sign. Hover your mouse over the icons and tooltips will show up.

 

[Haserath]

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/123529-nvidia-deeply-unhappy-with-tsmc-claims-22nm-essentially-worthless

One of the reasons why we can't compare pricing with older cards. If Nvidia tries to make a chip as big as the 580 with lower yields and >50% wafer price at the same cost to consumers, they'd most likely be losing money. AMD probably increased their prices for this same reason, they made a GPU with similar die size, lower yields then the 6970, and a >50% higher wafer price when AMD was hardly making money in the first place.

Hopefully within a year we'll see what the 28nm process can really do, but that's only if wafer pricing goes down, yields go up, and capacity is there for the pricing structure.

 

[I am a PC]

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/123529-nvidia-deeply-unhappy-with-tsmc-claims-22nm-essentially-worthless

One of the reasons why we can't compare pricing with older cards. If Nvidia tries to make a chip as big as the 580 with lower yields and >50% wafer price at the same cost to consumers, they'd most likely be losing money. AMD probably increased their prices for this same reason, they made a GPU with similar die size, lower yields then the 6970, and a >50% higher wafer price when AMD was hardly making money in the first place.

Hopefully within a year we'll see what the 28nm process can really do, but that's only if wafer pricing goes down, yields go up, and capacity is there for the pricing structure.

AMD makes tons of money they are much much bigger than just a GPU

 

[jjtober1]

It would be interesting to know the actual costs involved to make these babies. I'm sure R&D is crazy expensive, and never ending.

 

[I am a PC]

It would be interesting to know the actual costs involved to make these babies. I'm sure R&D is crazy expensive, and never ending.

For when they were starting out sure there costs and risks were extremely high but now Nvidia and Radeon have a monopoly going they are just trickling down technology at there own pace playing the fanboys for foos and profiting largely.

 

[Rockdpm]

It will always be like that, as long as the consumer keeps buying it. They will keep selling them. I support NVIDIA, and will probably 1 of every Generation card to come....but i won't buy the company..

 

[renz496]

Good to see Theo doing some goodness

interesting read for me.

GPGPU type cards arent alone, by themselves enough to drive a company towards that goal, as the discrete market is imperative it lasts and grows. nVidia, making a flexable solution towards both DT and compute is forwards looking, but remember, big K will have all that compute included, and wont see the perf/mm we see in the 104

honestly i fully expect we're going to see the usual nvidia with the big GK: brute force

There is no evidence, at this point, to say that the GTX680 is a "Mid range card branded as there top end". The card has only been out for three days, let it breath a little before labeling it.

people based that on the card's spec. the biggest hint was the chip inside was ended with number 4 (GK104). like many other nvidia chips before this the one ended with number 4 was their mid range card. such as GF104 in GTX460 and G94 in 9600GT. another hint was the GTX680 was build with gaming as the main focus just like GF104/114 was.

I can really see Nvidia taking Kepler into the 700 series later this year and going with a similar marketing strategy of what AMD is using with the 7700, 7800, 7900. On Nvidia's side we'll see the 500, 600, 700 Series. Maybe not, just a thought... have no evidence to back this up.

i'm sure we're going to see kepler for nvidia 700 series. the way it is right now i don't see maxwell coming around Q4 2013 at the earliest. my crystall ball says were going to see kepler 2.0 with nvidia 700 series. just imagine about GTX680 on 1.3Ghz stock clock but consume the same or less power than current GTX680

 

[beltzy]

There is no evidence, at this point, to say that the GTX680 is a "Mid range card branded as there top end". The card has only been out for three days, let it breath a little before labeling it.

Except for all the evidence and NVidia roadmaps and product charts until right around the time that the 7970 was released. The GK104 based card was slated as a successor somewhere between the 560ti and 570 replacement. It was discussed at great length in the other Kepler thread. Without a peek into the decisionmaking process used by NVidia management it's impossible to know exactly what they did or why, but many infer that they bumped this card up to a higher market segment because of the 7970 launch price, it's performance, and the fact that people were buying them there.

No, obviously they will have a few cards in each series. The 500 series is already saturated, the 600 series may focus on the mid to high end, then the 700 series (coming later of course) would be for enthusiast and ultra-high end builds. It makes sense with their timeline they've setup and the GTX400-500 were both launched as the GF100+ cards. Why not have the GTX600-700 as GK100+ cards. Maybe later this year is a bit ambitious to think they would launch a new series, based on their history, but you never know. Like I said, just a thought...

I'd be surprised if they targeted different market segments with different generations. Honestly I think part of the reason that we saw the 5xx series roll out so fast was because of all the complaints about the 480. It was the fastest single gpu card but it had a huge disclaimer in all the reviews about the heat/noise/etc. I would be very surprised if NVidia jumped to a new gen so quickly this time around since the 680 has secured VERY solid recommendations vs the 7970 from every review I've seen.

All of the info we've seen to date (again these are leaked roadmaps and product plans etc so take with a grain of salt) show the GK110 as part of the same family of products as the GK104, just higher end. Until we see something (leaked or official) that indicates otherwise I'd look for a higher end 6xx card with a GK110 under the hood.

 

[Guest]

GTX 680 FTW 4GB
Memory Specs

Memory Detail: 4096 MB GDDR5
Memory Bit Width: 256 Bit
Memory Clock: TBD MHz
Memory Speed: TBD ns
Memory Bandwidth: TBD GB/sec

http://www.evga.com/articles/00669/#GTX680FTW

or the classified:
8+8 Power Design
14 Phase PWM Design
http://www.evga.com/articles/00669/#GTX680Classified

no way i can afford it but i GOT A CHUBBY!

you may want to stand back.

 

[renz496]

right now i'm more interested with zotac 2Ghz (stock clock) GTX680 😛

 

[Guest]

right now i'm more interested with zotac 2Ghz (stock clock) GTX680 😛

don't forget to have some protection

i hope some pimp daddy would let me "caress" one of those EVGA cards for a small fee . .

 

[renz496]

it's not that i'm going to buy it :lol: . i'm more interested to see how they are going to make it happen 😛. from the reports they say we should see something around mid next month

 

[Rockdpm]

Well i am curious to see where prices stand when they come back in stock and when the non reference models come out. Suprisingly i noticed the reference designs from the 500 series cost more than the non reference 500's

 

[Rockdpm]

Ok, i know we have all seen what they look like, but wccftech wrote a article discussing these new cards......it is saying that they will be the first to come out with a 4GB version.

http://wccftech.com/evga-announces-evga-geforce-gtx-680-evga-precision/

Also, Galaxay has revealed their "Hall Of Fame" edition of the GTX 680.

http://videocardz.com/31541/galaxy [...] n-pictured

 

[saint19]

@Rockdpm: Please use the "edit" button to add more info to your post, create three post at the same time doesn't look good.

 

[Rockdpm]

@Rockdpm: Please use the "edit" button to add more info to your post, create three post at the same time doesn't look good.

Sorry bout that, I will do better with my posts next time.

 

[jjtober1]

When Nvidia releases the GTX 780, I imagine it will be at a higher price point than the 680, but what will happen with the 680? Will it slide down to mid-range prices, more in line with where the 570 was? Also, I imagine a 670 must be on the way sometime reasonably soon.

 

[Rockdpm]

We can't announce when the 670 is to be here. But expect more Kepler cards to be out within the coming weeks on April. And i'm not talking 680's i am talking other mid range cards...and possibly a card above the 680 (Not the DUAL GK *** CARD)

We can talk about the 680, but as of nowif NVIDIA isn't releasing info of their lower end cards, I remain cautious about what i can release....

 

[wiyosaya]

That stuff has nothing to do with a gaming card GAMING being the key word here

Compute performance can, CAN being the key word here, affect game performance - see this.

 

[Rockdpm]

Yes, what everyone fail to remember, not only can the GTX 680 be in the Gaming Gefore market but also professionals are trying it. Games use Direct Compute coding and such other features. the 680 i have seen do good and bad at Direct Compute Benches but that doesn't handycap it from being a great card

 

[jjtober1]

We can't announce when the 670 is to be here. But expect more Kepler cards to be out within the coming weeks on April. And i'm not talking 680's i am talking other mid range cards...and possibly a card above the 680 (Not the DUAL GK *** CARD)

Thanks for the heads up

I have a pair of 6870's and will likely wait until the end of the year to upgrade at this point, but I just get ridiculously excited anyways every time new cards are coming out.

 

[17seconds]

Guru3d has their GTX 680 overclocking guide up.... 1300 mhz.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-overclock-guide/
Quote:
"It will be interesting to see custom cooled GeForce GTX 680 cards as I have no doubt a stable 1400 MHz is achievable on air cooling as well alongside a tiny bit of extra voltage."

I keep hearing that the 7970 can reach those speeds, but honestly I haven't seen it anywhere yet. For Guru3d, the best speed they got on the 7970 was the custom Asus Direct CU II at 1250 mhz.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-radeon-hd-7970-directcu-ii-review/23

 

[Rockdpm]

It would be worth the upgrade tober. but unless your willing to sell the two 6870's for 180 and piece and still have cash....the GTX 680 for a good deal is the only option you got thats worth the upgrade