Question Looking for a new CPU and motherboard

[mamalrlr]

Hello there !
In the last couple of days, I've been thinking that I should update my CPU, especially to play a game called Tera, that I can't manage to run smooth with my actual config. ( seems like it needs a lot of CPU ressources ). I also want to replace my motherboard, since it's a quite old one ^^
Here's my actual config :
CPU : i7-3770K
Motherboard : GIGABYTE B75M-D3H
GPU : Nvidia Geforce GTX 1660 Ti
SSD : Crucial MX 500 250G
HDD : 1To one (idk where to find the brand / model)
PSU : Corsair TX650M
RAM :
-3x Kingston KHX1600C10D3/4G
-1x Kingston KHX1600C9D3/4GX

Thanks in advance,
Maël
PS : Sorry if my english is bad, i'm not english ^^

 

[tennis2]

What country are you shopping in?
What is your budget? (you'll need DDR4 RAM also)

 

[mamalrlr]

What country are you shopping in?
What is your budget? (you'll need DDR4 RAM also)

Hey, sorry I didn't notice your answer.. ^^
I'm in france. For my budget, I don't really know I would say 200-300, but maybe a bit more if needed

 

[tennis2]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor (€147.93 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B365M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€89.95 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€67.98 @ Amazon France)
Total: €305.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-30 19:15 CEST+0200

OR

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (€131.54 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€78.95 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€67.98 @ Amazon France)
Total: €278.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-30 19:17 CEST+0200

 

[mamalrlr]

Will buying all that better than my old stuff ? Just asking ^^
And I have an other question, what's the difference between this ram and mine ?

 

[tennis2]

Your RAM is DDR3 which is not compatible with modern CPUs.

Both options would be better than your current system.

 

[mamalrlr]

Okay well thanks ^^. Just another question, if I really want a quite big improvement, how much do I need to pay ? I could go higher if there is a big difference

 

[tennis2]

I'll let you decide.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-3600-review,6287-7.html

 

[mamalrlr]

Ummm, I think I might go for that, looks pretty nice ^^
So what do you recommend me with this ?

 

[tennis2]

With the Ryzen 3600? You can use the same mobo and RAM as in the Ryzen 2600 build above if you want.

...I see Amazon already sold out of that kit.....Amazon is so annoying.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€217.88 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€78.95 @ Amazon France)
Memory: PNY Anarchy-X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€76.99 @ Cdiscount)
Total: €373.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-30 20:55 CEST+0200

Up to:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€217.88 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€109.16 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (€101.88 @ Alternate)
Total: €428.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-30 20:57 CEST+0200

X570 boards will be in the €200 range. B550 boards are launching mid-June and should be between B450 and X570 pricing.

 

[mamalrlr]

Amazon isn't out of stock ^^
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B083TSFGBP?tag=pcp09-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
what's the best between PNY Anarchy-X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory and Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ?

Also, how is the Gigabyte GA-B450M-DS3H ( https://www.amazon.fr/Gigabyte-GA-B...words=b450m&qid=1588273311&s=computers&sr=1-3 wow that's a big link ) compared to the msi version you sent earlier ?

 

[tennis2]

MSI's "Max" series B450 and X470 boards are GUARANTEED to SHIP with a Ryzen 3000 compatible BIOS installed. Unless a particular board has the BIOS flashback feature (which allows you to update the BIOS without a CPU installed), then there's a chance you get a board with an older BIOS version that doesn't yet support Ryzen 3000, and you'd need to get a Ryzen 2000 CPU to perform the BIOS update before you can use the Ryzen 3600. Most/many (physical) computer stores will offer a BIOS update service. And I guess AMD has a CPU lending program for BIOS updates also.

 

[tennis2]

For RAM, you're looking at 2 things:
Frequency - 3000MHz, 3200MHz, 3600MHz
CAS latency - CAS15, 16, 18, etc

https://www.crucial.com/articles/about-memory/difference-between-speed-and-latency

The kits we're talking about have average CAS latency for their respective MHz.
DDR4-3200 CAS 16 is probably your sweet spot

 

[mamalrlr]

Oh okay, I understand for the motherboard ^^
As for ram, I didn't understand everything, but what do you recommend me to pair with the 3600 ( on amazon if possible ), I mean that's quite stupid since you already answered but I wanna be sure that I buy the right stuff :3

 

[mamalrlr]

Well by looking at your chart, I guess these would be more adapted then, am I wrong ? https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Mémoire-Performance/dp/B0143UM4TC?th=1

 

[tennis2]

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/qGqbt6/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvgb
Cheaper, same 3200MHz, CAS 16

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=16384002&s=403200,403600&L=150,180&sort=price&page=1

 

[refillable]

Oh okay, I understand for the motherboard ^^
As for ram, I didn't understand everything, but what do you recommend me to pair with the 3600 ( on amazon if possible ), I mean that's quite stupid since you already answered but I wanna be sure that I buy the right stuff :3

Basically more speed = faster but more expensive, less CL = faster but more expensive. You can go with the highest speed and lowest CL possible, but that is not effective. 3200 MHz and CL16 is usually the most effective in terms of price and speed.

I'd take a look at something like this:
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B017WST5EE

 

[mamalrlr]

Well they are almost the same price, is there really no difference between Ripjaws one and Corsair one ? ^^

 

[mamalrlr]

because I'm seeing a lot of negative comments on the Ripjaws one :x

 

[tennis2]

They may even be the exact same sticks of RAM under there, just different heat spreaders.
(I don't care to prove that statement)

 

[mamalrlr]

So it won't change if I take one or another right ?

 

[tennis2]

No noticeable difference IMO.

 

[mamalrlr]

Oh, and one last thing ( after a long time, sorry bout that ), shouldn't I take a B450 Tomahawk Max ( I see a lot of people recommend it ). I think I found it on amazon.fr : https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-B450-Tomahawk-Prise-S-ATA/dp/B07VB2BG3X. I don't really know the difference between this B450 and yours, so I wanted to know what's different ^^

 

[tennis2]

The tomahawk max is a good board. Yup. Its ATX size. You're unlikely to use more expansion slots than what's on a mATX board, but whatever.

 

[Metro_2033_Fan]

Oh, and one last thing ( after a long time, sorry bout that ), shouldn't I take a B450 Tomahawk Max ( I see a lot of people recommend it ). I think I found it on amazon.fr : https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-B450-Tomahawk-Prise-S-ATA/dp/B07VB2BG3X. I don't really know the difference between this B450 and yours, so I wanted to know what's different ^^

B450 and x470 are the chip-sets used on the motherboards. The X series chip-sets are the high-end chip-sets while the B series are the entry level or mid-range. However, that said, the Tomahawk B450 is viewed as a great board because it has good heat-sinks and VRMs. VRMs are what control the voltage to your CPU and allow for overclocking.