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"Choosing" a profession that puts you in an objectified position, such as sex work, stripping, porn or booth-babe is hardly ever a consequence of "free will". Many of the (in this case) girls would probably proudly present their occupation as a result of their own preference. However, an established demand-and-supply chain, a culture of objectifying women, huge differences in what self-images are created when girls and boys are raised, a job-market skewed towards promoting men, all these aspects of society leaves the "free will" to be vastly filtered towards the underlying cultural themes. I'm amazed that the commenters so far lack this basic understanding of underlying rules in society today.. Not that these are unchangeable things of course, we're moving towards more equality of genders, but those of you who think that becoming a "booth babe" is just a matter of free choice and results in no harm should really begin questioning your views..
 
Umm it's the girls job to wear bikini. The ones that are complaining are rude; it's like like mocking a prostitute in Amsterdam.
 
in what universe are those bikinis?? further more, people who constantly point out these things are deriously deranged (as are people who drool on them). Have you noticed a trend in today's world: the normal poepl who filter out the social conventions, because they are adults and handle these things like adults never speak out. Those who have a problem, because they have no education or can't understand and circumvent the adverts bark about it the loudest. FFS go read some psycology, go get some sort of basic understanding of socail interactions and stop making silly remarks about a bit of clothing.GET SOME LOVE, GET A LIFE!

huggs - ME!
 
They want to make money, and I want to see a beautiful woman.
Is there really a problem with that? I would have rather been a male stripper over my last job. i would have made more money too.

Some people just need to get over themselves already.
 
I can understand some women taking offence, I don't agree but hey. I will say this, if you want to be treated equally, then you have to take the good with the bad, and last time i checked i didn't give 2 craps about some random guys views, why should I care about yours?....all things being equal. Your not the one in the bikini, mind you biz. Those women chose to wear them, so respect their rights just as a man would.
 
How absurd. What is their point? That women can't be beautiful AND be in IT? Er... Well... It IS possible! If they made as much money as they did modeling and doing almost nothing.

I never understood how this objectifies women when the women are the ones in the bikinis. They aren't being beaten by pimps and forced to wear these skimpy clothes. It's a free market. If they wanted to be dowdy and overweight they would have chosen the IT profession.
 
Those people complaining are most definitely either virgins and+or in serious need of sex. They obviously have nothing better to do... I mean, seriously, it's old school to still talk about objectifying women now a days, in this consumerism driven world, where publicity and hype are god and the constant attempt at having "happiness" through the acquisition of volatile "stuff" seems to be norm! Get over your SQUARE selves! Hotness is good for business, and bad for the planet, but not for bank accounts of women wearing Bikinis at some MS convention..
We are the ones getting objectified by buying whatever those hotties wave at us.

Stupid people suck.
 
Good article jane , i seriously don't get people on one hand you got people that scream "theya re objectifyign women" any tiem a woman does "model" type work , yet on the other hand you got the (general) media and modleing world , idolizing this "perfect" female ideal (which if you ask me lotta of those models look underfed and unhealthy). its like a double standard , its ok to do this in fashion but not ok to do so in any thing else.

and the folks caught in the middle of it are the girls doing the work, reminds me of a conversation i had with one of marlyn mansion's dancing girls , it was ozz fest 2002 i think , they were out taking pictures for 20 bucks with fans , and they were talking about how silly it is that women are encouraged to do that kind of work with modeling and beauty pagents being idolized .. yet at the same time every one frowns on it for objectifing women (when it is not doen on a cat walk or at abeauty pagent) , she said the money beats any thing else she ever did and she enjoyed the attention.


what are your opinions on it ?
 
[citation][nom]AngelRaiter[/nom]We are the ones getting objectified by buying whatever those hotties wave at us.Stupid people suck.[/citation]
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You, sir, deserve a cookie.
 
[citation][nom]Swedish male 30y Biotech engineer[/nom]"Choosing" a profession that puts you in an objectified position, such as sex work, stripping, porn or booth-babe is hardly ever a consequence of "free will". Many of the (in this case) girls would probably proudly present their occupation as a result of their own preference. However, an established demand-and-supply chain, a culture of objectifying women, huge differences in what self-images are created when girls and boys are raised, a job-market skewed towards promoting men, all these aspects of society leaves the "free will" to be vastly filtered towards the underlying cultural themes. I'm amazed that the commenters so far lack this basic understanding of underlying rules in society today.. Not that these are unchangeable things of course, we're moving towards more equality of genders, but those of you who think that becoming a "booth babe" is just a matter of free choice and results in no harm should really begin questioning your views..[/citation]

I find it amusing that someone with absolutely no grasp on cultural anthropology would have the nerve to suggest that a culture where the beauty of a woman is still considered alluring and is considered an economic commodity there is no respect for the thoughts and feelings for the opposing gender. So let's examine your comment a little further.

Exactly how much experience do you have in regards to the thoughts and feelings of a woman, and women who work expo's in particular? Or are you simply voicing your opinion like everyone else and attempting to assert that your opinion is by far more important than everyone elses? This sounds more like a male asserting his domination over others in an effort to obtain some sort of moral "cookie". So by following your own logic you've become just another chest beating neanderthal due to your predominant protective instincts over the female persuasion. I've been to many expo's, spoke with and have been close friends with women who either worked the shows or "gasp" volunteered to be there. That makes them brain washed to think they're only good for showing their posterior's correct?

Nevermind that I once knew a geneticist who dressed up as cat woman for a Comic-Con.
 
1. And they're apologising.... WHY? ;-D

2. OK, apology accepted. Can you get out of the way please, you're blocking the view!
 
$10 bucks says Kate Carruthers is a dog.

Most of the women who complain about women being objectified are ones that no one will look at that way, and that's REALLY what they are complaining about. They think it's unfair that the pretty ones get attention, and they can't. After all, that's what Miss Carruthers is complaining about here - someone looking at other women.

The women that are attractive use this to their advantage, and take advantage of us poor lowly men and our instincts. We are cruelly mistreated by being influenced to buy things we don't want, or need (sometimes even the female herself), by these seductive witches. Can we help it? Nope. Millions of years of genetic selection has weeded out most the of males that could, and left us defenseless again these legions of shameless harlots that exist to sap our will and gain access to our hard won money, with little more than a look, or dip, or a tail wagging.

It's very easy to sound like the victim, but the reality is, no one is the victim. The companies make more money, the women get a nice paycheck, and the men like it.

The only ones that aren't happy are the ugly ones like Kate Carruthers, who have to face, once again, she can't get the attention she would love to. But, really, the final laugh is hers. Everyone gets old and ugly, except for the ones that die tragically before they get the chance.

Moral of the story - life sucks for everyone, sooner or later, and unless it causes problems later on, don't look to close at things that are harmless and enjoyable. Girls in bikinis is not prostitution.
 
[citation][nom]Swedish male 30y Biotech engineer[/nom]"Choosing" a profession that puts you in an objectified position, such as sex work, stripping, porn or booth-babe is hardly ever a consequence of "free will". Many of the (in this case) girls would probably proudly present their occupation as a result of their own preference. However, an established demand-and-supply chain, a culture of objectifying women, huge differences in what self-images are created when girls and boys are raised, a job-market skewed towards promoting men, all these aspects of society leaves the "free will" to be vastly filtered towards the underlying cultural themes. I'm amazed that the commenters so far lack this basic understanding of underlying rules in society today.. Not that these are unchangeable things of course, we're moving towards more equality of genders, but those of you who think that becoming a "booth babe" is just a matter of free choice and results in no harm should really begin questioning your views..[/citation]

If these women didnt want to be meter maids, or booth babes then they could always be waitresses. I am just saying its not like they dont have a choice. Some women are confident and proud of the way that they look and dont mind the attention that it brings. Also I am sure if Microsoft came to you and said, "hey we will pay you more than you can make in a month if you just stand here in a gold bikini and be nice to everyone that you talk to." you would say sign me up.
 
[citation][nom]JackNSally[/nom]Objectifying women? If they are so objectified why are women doing it?[/citation]
The women who seem to always say they are being objectified are the ones who wouldn't be able to get that job in the first place. Seems more like jealousy to me more then anything else, "it's not that I don't look good enough to be a booth babe, it's that she's being objectified, yea that's it".
These women were not forced to do this, they chose it and are most likely being paid very well, it was their choice and other women have no right trying to stop them just cause they don't like the choice and couldn't pass the test for the job.
 
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