MSFT Sorry for Having Bikini Girls at Conference

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I actually oppose show girls at any of the tech/game shows/expos. The content of the shows should be the focus, not those scarcely-clad women. They are the interruption of the events. Too often my concentration, appreciation, and admiration of the show's main content was interrupted and interfered by those show-goers who were there only for the S-Girls.
 
I demand a apology from Microsoft Australia for not informing me bikini girls were present, otherwise I would have been there... 🙁
 
The first girl looks really bad. Not really sexy at all with all that flab hanging out. It's like watching a walrus floss it's teeth.
 
Complainer is always a woman. If the women that are doing it are happy doing it I fail to see how its objectifying. I see it as promoting there occupation.
 
"It seems that there are still marketing and promotional folks in the IT world who consider objectification of women to be ok," the Sydney Morning Herald quotes IT worker Kate Carruthers

Of course its OK...
 
MS just hired from an org that was already in existence.

Whats really funny is how the complainers are going after Microsoft instead of heading up the root of their problems.
Which would be the Meter Maid organization itself. While they are at it, they should target racing, boxing, or pretty much any sport that uses cheerlearders...Including cheerleading competitions.
 
"It seems that there are still marketing and promotional folks in the IT world who consider objectification of women to be ok," the Sydney Morning Herald quotes IT worker Kate Carruthers as saying.

then go tell those women to stop letting people objectify them.
 
I believe there was typo in your headline Toms. It should have read MSFT Sorry for not Having more Bikini Girls at Conference
 
These women are just insecure with their femininity. And you can't tell me they are not objectifying George Clooney or anyone male celebrity they go ga-ga over.
 
LOL That girl looks like she has Dun-Laps disease...they should be sorry for not getting a bikini model with a better body. But on a serious note...what exactly is the purpose of "booth babes" at electronics shows? I understand them at automotive events...especially ricer events but they just don't fit in the tech world very well....unless they are at a Tomb Raider booth.
 
the one bad thing about booth babes is that they generally don't know anything about computers. they're good to look at but if they have no brains, they can become rather arrogant pretty fast even if you mention something really simple about a computer. I suppose they think they are going to be looked down upon but still. as long as they hire ones with congenial personalities, they don't have to know anything about the product but friendlyness helps sell. intel almost has me switching over to amd due to unfriendlyness at their booth 😛
 
First women complain that they are not treated as equals. Now, here is an event that most everyone would rather see staffed by women than men. And what happens when they achieve their goal and the gender demographic is skewed the other way? They complain. WTF?
 
[citation][nom]hemelskonijn[/nom]As long as you see woman like they are all in dire need because of there womanly flaws then dude your way worse then hooters or in this case Microsoft.Girls make choices i will never be able to understand like in example they prefer a guy they might be able to fix over a guy that is perfect and they don't notice perfect any way. Girls by definition choose guys that are bad for them don't ask me why but they just do. Some choose man that hit them others man that ignore them or man that cheat on them or maybe just not appreciate them or any possible combination of those. If they once made a stupid choice the next will likely top that and so on till by sheer luck thy do find a person that might be right enough.If you look at it from this perspective the problem is not you being a nice guy (or at least not the main part of it) but its them choosing. If something goes wrong you can fix her up and she will run of to the next bigger and meaner to start all over again. this suggest her knowingly and willingly choosing to be up and or the lack of the ability to think for herself. Start saying no while a yes really would have been no problem start telling her you don care about whether her arse looks big or not.I am telling you i have seen the light and the promised land, the last girl i met in a bar i walked up to her and told her that it should be illegal for people with such huge ugly noses to be in bars late at night. She came on to me after that and naturally i acted a bit less like a jerk ... they are just self destructive.[/citation]

And when you culturally condition people to feel inferior, to feel like they need someone who will take control of them, you end up with that insecurity. I believe that (and judging from the comments) our culture still has a lot of underlying sexism, not always as much outright, but so much has been conditioned from hundreds of years of being seen as property, subservient, etc.

Many women today do not want to be under that yoke anymore. They want to be treated as people and not just pieces of meat to be oogled. They feel that continuing to use the barely clothed woman as a selling point (especially with a panel being "Women in IT") works against their aim. In a way it perpetuates a stereotype, that women have to be beautiful to get anywhere in life, those who aren't up to our ever changing standard of beauty are somehow unworthy of our attention and recognition.

Imagine if men were unable to be recognized for accomplishments or be taken seriously that they could do a job in the workforce unless they were "handsome" enough? Anyone not beautiful gets little recognition and their skills are overlooked unless they meet some physical beauty standard? That is how a good deal of IT has seemed to me, but only towards women.

Now I like many don't mind looking at beautiful women who choose to display themselves, but object to how women are often treated or seen as unable to do IT, or not able to perform the same as a man in computers. I know a few women in IT that can outperform just about anyone here techwise.

This is something I have personally seen and my fiancee has endured with most of her life. Talk all you want about nerds and techies being a bit more intelligent and perhaps a bit more enlightened, but there is still a very male centric view of computers, IT, and the world in general.

Women often have to work far harder than men to achieve near the same level of recognition in this complex field, because many men have views that women can't or won't do the work. I for one think any woman who puts up with the culture in IT that I've seen stronger than most.

I hope you understand that many women want to change our world to be on equal terms with men. If a woman wants to stay subservient to men, I pity them. I think much of that might be conditioning, a desire to abandon responsibility perhaps, maybe its parts of our old early mammalian brains that want to be subservient to a pack leader.
 
Rationally, bikini girls are not appropriate for this kind of event. But, the animal side of my human nature tells me these girls should go topless! And, unfortunately this animal instinct inside of me wins. So M$ keep up the good work..... :)
 
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