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I have nothing against booth babes. I personnally consider them kinda silly and I don’t like them. But as long as the girls who accept to do the job are okay with it, and the majority of the public enjoy it, why not? The girls get paid, the boys get a kick, and everybody’s happy. We’re far from the prostitute who gets beaten by its pimp.
But then, I went to Tom Hardware get my daily fix of hardware’s news, and I read this little article about Microsoft hiring bikini at Tech Ed. A conference that tried to target women with a talk called “women in IT”. I was mildly annoyed by Microsoft, and I was glad some people had the gut to complain. But then I read the comments, and I was totally horrified with what I saw. “Once again, fatty people complained”? “Stupid women jealous of other that are hotter”?
Wow
I don’t even know where to begin.
First, a word of warning: I am a “nice guy”. Which mean I’m the kind of guy who become friend with a greater number of women that average, but don’t usually have sex with them since they don’t “like me that way”. Suck to be me, or whatever. I don’t really give a damn anymore.
The comments I read were done right misogynic, horrifying, and I hate the people who said them. See, being a nice guys, I got to constantly try to piece together some lady’s broken self-confidence. And that isn’t pretty. You may not realize it, but an average looking girl, is, well, a person. She can feel what we call pain. And lot’s of it. And that pain manifests itself in a variety of way. Let me tell you about it.
Let’s talk about a girl who was my roommate for two years. She was a nice person and she was relatively pretty although maybe not on an Anna Kournikova level. But she felt fat (she was not). And she really, really wanted to lose weight because she didn’t felt pretty. So she stopped eating. In a day, she could eat maybe a slice of bread and a glass of juice, max. And to cut the hunger, she started taking coke and speed. Because she tough that once she would be thinner, maybe the guys would start notifying her. After a while she stopped having her period. And then she started fainting one or two time a day. (that’s what tipped me off). She almost died because she wanted to be like the bikini girls. Thank god, her boyfriend, her parents, and her other friends started taking care of her, because she wouldn’t be here today.
But why am I telling you all this you say? Because, the kind of women who attends “women in IT” aren’t pretty women who get enrolled in bikini girls. They are often insecure, average looking women, that don’t get any favor from the guys. Girls like my roommate. Women who can feel a very real psychological pain when some golden bikini girl rub in there faces the fact that they are not really pretty.
As I said, I have nothing against booth babe, or guy who like them. I have however, one hell of a problem with people destroy some women psyche because they tought it would be a good idea to have scantility clad babe at a serious conference on IT. Booth babe at E3? Ok, whatever. At CES? Ok, why not. But at TechEd, a professional conference where a lot of women were invited? That’s pretty stupid. If a guy went to a professional conference where the vast majority of the attendance is female, and then someone hired muscled men to beat the crap out of him and destroy his virility in front of every girls present, I guarantee you he would hate it. And then, he go on a website that talk about the fact and all they say is that his complain was the fact of “stupid nerds who never get laid anyway”. I think he wouldn’t like himself a lot.
I’ve talked about my roommate, but she’s only one of the many insecure girls I’ve met. I also had a childhood friend who was also relatively pretty, but didn’t feel like it. So she anguished more, and more, and to put away her pain she started cutting herself with rasor blade (no, she wasn’t emo, and she didn’t have a livejournal). She still has scars on her arm. And she almost kill herself one time, thank god she survived. And I have the example one of my friend girlfriend who dump him because she didn’t had enough self esteems, destroying herself and him in the process (I am still trying to put together the pieces). You see guys, maybe you don’t care, but personally all those person near me suffering drive me insane. Guess that’s the real burden of being a nice guys. And what pisses me off is that those girl aren’t even fat and/or ugly as some people seemed to imply. It’s more that the pressure of “be pretty or be ignored” drive them mad.
Oh, and you think that sexism doesn’t exists anymore? That any women is today on the same footing as any man? Think again pals. In my internship this summer (I’m a software engineering student), I had the chance to work with a very hot 22 years old journalist. I was making a website, she was getting the content to put on it. And from what she told me, she had a very, very hard time getting taken seriously for the sole reason that she was a girl. At one conference she went, she was one of the only girl present, and she was constantly hit on by fat and ugly creepy old guys. Bikini girl may not give a crap, but a lot of pretty girl don’t want to be hit on and considered only for there potential as sex mate. At the end of one interview, the guy she interviewed didn’t say “good job” or “it was a pleasure”, he only say “it was fun, you were very pretty”. Wow, that sentence totally didn’t imply “I don’t give a shit about you or your competence, all I care is that I can imagine you naked”
So there is the second problem with the bikini girls. It set a very bad tone. Instead of being a professional environment where girl aren’t primarily girls but are insteand other IT professional, it became some kind of stupid party. And the heightened testoterone level caused by those girls surely didn’t do any good to the women who wanted to be considered as “Lina, who can configure an ASP.NET server in 10 minute” instead “Another random chicks with boobs”. The conference didn’t need this at all.
That wasn’t a party. That was a Tech conference. And the bikini babe were a very bad idea, and I hope Microsoft issued one hell of an apology. And I hope the genius who came up with the idea got fired. The people who complained were in every right to do so, and for all you who complained that those were only fat and ugly girls, honestly, I hope you realize how horrible those word are. Objectification of women and sexisms are still a problems today, what with anorexia and the like. I almost lost two very important person in my life because of that, and I can attest that a lot of girl feel very bad about how they look. So sorry, but I think that you are asshole if you really meant that. Cause I have the nice guy curse, and that means that I got to listen to them instead of just fucking them. And I don’t like what I hear most of the time. I just hate it when my friends are sad or depressed.
And for the bikini girls, I hope them the best of luck, and I hope that next time they would be featured in a place where they won’t destroy the self-esteem of others more average looking women. Like at an anime convention, or somewhere like that. Cause as I have said, I have nothing about admiring consenting pretty women. Boys get a kick, the girls get paid, and everybody happy. And that’s the key, making everybody happy. Without making other people sad or depressed. Because that, I can’t tolerate it.
PS : some guys actually said that the complaints where made by an Apple fanatic user who have have a iPhone and a iPad. It’s funny because my laptop is indeed a Macbook Pro (yeah, hate me). But don’t worry, I typed all that on my desktop computer, with a Core2duo 3Ghz with 4GB RAM and a GTX 260. So there are no evil Apple bits in my message.
But then, I went to Tom Hardware get my daily fix of hardware’s news, and I read this little article about Microsoft hiring bikini at Tech Ed. A conference that tried to target women with a talk called “women in IT”. I was mildly annoyed by Microsoft, and I was glad some people had the gut to complain. But then I read the comments, and I was totally horrified with what I saw. “Once again, fatty people complained”? “Stupid women jealous of other that are hotter”?
Wow
I don’t even know where to begin.
First, a word of warning: I am a “nice guy”. Which mean I’m the kind of guy who become friend with a greater number of women that average, but don’t usually have sex with them since they don’t “like me that way”. Suck to be me, or whatever. I don’t really give a damn anymore.
The comments I read were done right misogynic, horrifying, and I hate the people who said them. See, being a nice guys, I got to constantly try to piece together some lady’s broken self-confidence. And that isn’t pretty. You may not realize it, but an average looking girl, is, well, a person. She can feel what we call pain. And lot’s of it. And that pain manifests itself in a variety of way. Let me tell you about it.
Let’s talk about a girl who was my roommate for two years. She was a nice person and she was relatively pretty although maybe not on an Anna Kournikova level. But she felt fat (she was not). And she really, really wanted to lose weight because she didn’t felt pretty. So she stopped eating. In a day, she could eat maybe a slice of bread and a glass of juice, max. And to cut the hunger, she started taking coke and speed. Because she tough that once she would be thinner, maybe the guys would start notifying her. After a while she stopped having her period. And then she started fainting one or two time a day. (that’s what tipped me off). She almost died because she wanted to be like the bikini girls. Thank god, her boyfriend, her parents, and her other friends started taking care of her, because she wouldn’t be here today.
But why am I telling you all this you say? Because, the kind of women who attends “women in IT” aren’t pretty women who get enrolled in bikini girls. They are often insecure, average looking women, that don’t get any favor from the guys. Girls like my roommate. Women who can feel a very real psychological pain when some golden bikini girl rub in there faces the fact that they are not really pretty.
As I said, I have nothing against booth babe, or guy who like them. I have however, one hell of a problem with people destroy some women psyche because they tought it would be a good idea to have scantility clad babe at a serious conference on IT. Booth babe at E3? Ok, whatever. At CES? Ok, why not. But at TechEd, a professional conference where a lot of women were invited? That’s pretty stupid. If a guy went to a professional conference where the vast majority of the attendance is female, and then someone hired muscled men to beat the crap out of him and destroy his virility in front of every girls present, I guarantee you he would hate it. And then, he go on a website that talk about the fact and all they say is that his complain was the fact of “stupid nerds who never get laid anyway”. I think he wouldn’t like himself a lot.
I’ve talked about my roommate, but she’s only one of the many insecure girls I’ve met. I also had a childhood friend who was also relatively pretty, but didn’t feel like it. So she anguished more, and more, and to put away her pain she started cutting herself with rasor blade (no, she wasn’t emo, and she didn’t have a livejournal). She still has scars on her arm. And she almost kill herself one time, thank god she survived. And I have the example one of my friend girlfriend who dump him because she didn’t had enough self esteems, destroying herself and him in the process (I am still trying to put together the pieces). You see guys, maybe you don’t care, but personally all those person near me suffering drive me insane. Guess that’s the real burden of being a nice guys. And what pisses me off is that those girl aren’t even fat and/or ugly as some people seemed to imply. It’s more that the pressure of “be pretty or be ignored” drive them mad.
Oh, and you think that sexism doesn’t exists anymore? That any women is today on the same footing as any man? Think again pals. In my internship this summer (I’m a software engineering student), I had the chance to work with a very hot 22 years old journalist. I was making a website, she was getting the content to put on it. And from what she told me, she had a very, very hard time getting taken seriously for the sole reason that she was a girl. At one conference she went, she was one of the only girl present, and she was constantly hit on by fat and ugly creepy old guys. Bikini girl may not give a crap, but a lot of pretty girl don’t want to be hit on and considered only for there potential as sex mate. At the end of one interview, the guy she interviewed didn’t say “good job” or “it was a pleasure”, he only say “it was fun, you were very pretty”. Wow, that sentence totally didn’t imply “I don’t give a shit about you or your competence, all I care is that I can imagine you naked”
So there is the second problem with the bikini girls. It set a very bad tone. Instead of being a professional environment where girl aren’t primarily girls but are insteand other IT professional, it became some kind of stupid party. And the heightened testoterone level caused by those girls surely didn’t do any good to the women who wanted to be considered as “Lina, who can configure an ASP.NET server in 10 minute” instead “Another random chicks with boobs”. The conference didn’t need this at all.
That wasn’t a party. That was a Tech conference. And the bikini babe were a very bad idea, and I hope Microsoft issued one hell of an apology. And I hope the genius who came up with the idea got fired. The people who complained were in every right to do so, and for all you who complained that those were only fat and ugly girls, honestly, I hope you realize how horrible those word are. Objectification of women and sexisms are still a problems today, what with anorexia and the like. I almost lost two very important person in my life because of that, and I can attest that a lot of girl feel very bad about how they look. So sorry, but I think that you are asshole if you really meant that. Cause I have the nice guy curse, and that means that I got to listen to them instead of just fucking them. And I don’t like what I hear most of the time. I just hate it when my friends are sad or depressed.
And for the bikini girls, I hope them the best of luck, and I hope that next time they would be featured in a place where they won’t destroy the self-esteem of others more average looking women. Like at an anime convention, or somewhere like that. Cause as I have said, I have nothing about admiring consenting pretty women. Boys get a kick, the girls get paid, and everybody happy. And that’s the key, making everybody happy. Without making other people sad or depressed. Because that, I can’t tolerate it.
PS : some guys actually said that the complaints where made by an Apple fanatic user who have have a iPhone and a iPad. It’s funny because my laptop is indeed a Macbook Pro (yeah, hate me). But don’t worry, I typed all that on my desktop computer, with a Core2duo 3Ghz with 4GB RAM and a GTX 260. So there are no evil Apple bits in my message.
Spanky Deluxe
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Knowing someone that works as a booth babe at times, these complainers should just ah heck off. The girls get paid pretty well and enjoy their work!
[citation][nom]ta152h[/nom]$10 bucks says Kate Carruthers is a dog.[/citation]
Haha look her up in Google Images and there are images of actual DOGS mixed in with hers... If you look really closely you can tell them apart.
(Hint: Kate is the one wearing glasses)
Haha look her up in Google Images and there are images of actual DOGS mixed in with hers... If you look really closely you can tell them apart.
(Hint: Kate is the one wearing glasses)
Speaking of this, I remember there was a picture about this ugly "feminist" movement in front of Hooters, holding a sign that says "women is not for show" or something. and the girls inside gave her a drink or some crap. and the description of the picture saids "Only ugly bitxhes complain about it" hahahaha
Its kinda funny cuz while the girls working in hooters like this "ugly" woman's work. but they don't really give a crap. they still working in hooters and me and my friends just went Hooters like last Thursday.
Its kinda funny cuz while the girls working in hooters like this "ugly" woman's work. but they don't really give a crap. they still working in hooters and me and my friends just went Hooters like last Thursday.
WOW! Those are GRANDMA's bininis. Those are not the bikinis I know about. Those look more like small shorts than bikini. I'd say they are wearing shorts that are a bit shorter than usual but nowhere near a bikini. I bet those who complained have never seen a bikini before in their life.
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kalem13:
Dude take some advice from one nice guy to the next,
1. Stop idolizing woman.
2. Start being a bastard.
3. Stop over thinking.
4. stop giving a crap.
As long as you see woman like they are all in dire need because of there womanly flaws then dude your way worse then hooters or in this case Microsoft.
Girls make choices i will never be able to understand like in example they prefer a guy they might be able to fix over a guy that is perfect and they don't notice perfect any way. Girls by definition choose guys that are bad for them don't ask me why but they just do. Some choose man that hit them others man that ignore them or man that cheat on them or maybe just not appreciate them or any possible combination of those. If they once made a stupid choice the next will likely top that and so on till by sheer luck thy do find a person that might be right enough.
If you look at it from this perspective the problem is not you being a nice guy (or at least not the main part of it) but its them choosing. If something goes wrong you can fix her up and she will run of to the next bigger and meaner to start all over again. this suggest her knowingly and willingly choosing to be up and or the lack of the ability to think for herself. Start saying no while a yes really would have been no problem start telling her you don care about whether her arse looks big or not.
I am telling you i have seen the light and the promised land, the last girl i met in a bar i walked up to her and told her that it should be illegal for people with such huge ugly noses to be in bars late at night. She came on to me after that and naturally i acted a bit less like a jerk ... they are just self destructive.
Dude take some advice from one nice guy to the next,
1. Stop idolizing woman.
2. Start being a bastard.
3. Stop over thinking.
4. stop giving a crap.
As long as you see woman like they are all in dire need because of there womanly flaws then dude your way worse then hooters or in this case Microsoft.
Girls make choices i will never be able to understand like in example they prefer a guy they might be able to fix over a guy that is perfect and they don't notice perfect any way. Girls by definition choose guys that are bad for them don't ask me why but they just do. Some choose man that hit them others man that ignore them or man that cheat on them or maybe just not appreciate them or any possible combination of those. If they once made a stupid choice the next will likely top that and so on till by sheer luck thy do find a person that might be right enough.
If you look at it from this perspective the problem is not you being a nice guy (or at least not the main part of it) but its them choosing. If something goes wrong you can fix her up and she will run of to the next bigger and meaner to start all over again. this suggest her knowingly and willingly choosing to be up and or the lack of the ability to think for herself. Start saying no while a yes really would have been no problem start telling her you don care about whether her arse looks big or not.
I am telling you i have seen the light and the promised land, the last girl i met in a bar i walked up to her and told her that it should be illegal for people with such huge ugly noses to be in bars late at night. She came on to me after that and naturally i acted a bit less like a jerk ... they are just self destructive.
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In this day of age, I think it would have been quite right to also have 2 hunks there. Women/gays aren't exactly irrelevant anymore when it comes to such events...we need eye candy too! That said, you (straight) guys are lucky, you always get the babes!
[citation][nom]kalem13[/nom]...
First, a word of warning: I am a “nice guy”. Which mean I’m the kind of guy who become friend with a greater number of women that average, but don’t usually have sex with them since they don’t “like me that way”. I don’t really give a damn anymore.
.../citation]
All the girls choose Mr-No-Nice-Guy. Take a clue.
First, a word of warning: I am a “nice guy”. Which mean I’m the kind of guy who become friend with a greater number of women that average, but don’t usually have sex with them since they don’t “like me that way”. I don’t really give a damn anymore.
.../citation]
All the girls choose Mr-No-Nice-Guy. Take a clue.
r u kidding me .. who got insulted by those girls, those arent even bikinis... was it the fat ladies sitting at the cubicals always looking for something wrong in other people to make themselves feel better ??
leafman420
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All I have to say is, I don't like booth babes. Unless it's ozzfest. Ouch! *remembers marilyn manson's booth* *shakes head* Yeah where was I, oh and I don't like to have dumb, hardly dressed, gold diggers. Tell me what to buy. That all I have to say on this matter.
Most people are idiots. Especially the obese and disgruntled women who think that since no one will ever look at them...EVER...then no woman should be looked at. Its not our fault are lazy and they cant stop stuffing their faces with cheeseburgers...Go burn some calories and quit complaining hippo!
steiner666
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lol yeah its the fat ugly girls that complained cause the sexy ones were getting all the attention.
and obviously the girls themselves dont mind being paid for what theyre doing,
and obviously the girls themselves dont mind being paid for what theyre doing,
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I can see where the complainers are coming from. The IT industry is considered a professional industry and to have scantily clad women or men at a conference would be inappropriate. Not some much in a "objectification" way, but a "would you wear that to work" kind of way. Microsoft could have still catered to it's predominantly male conference attendees with the same women dress in more professional but sexy outfits. Pencil skirt, low-cut blouse, form-fitting blazer, hair in an up-do, sexy librarian glasses. I'm sure the complainers would still have issue with this, but who cares. They can go to the Apple conference instead.
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