MSI vs. ECS vs. ABIT vs DFI vs. Epox

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ok i narrowed down my choices to 4, now i cant chosoe between them

im looking to over clock, but not like to hit 3 Ghz i wanna over clock an opteron 144(1.8ghz) to around 2.4Ghz.

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130484

ECS KN1 EXTREME
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135175

ABIT AX8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127187'

DFI Infinity NF4 Ultra
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136163

EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123236


i dont really know much about EPox, i kno ECS is a bad company supposedly but it was really neck in neck with the MSI in a few reviews besides its lessened OCing ability, i dunno im not sure.

Thanks
 
Also going from 1.8 to 2.4 is a 30% OC thats asking alot... it may be possible with water cooling but I dont think so on air ? Im not an Athlon64 expert by any means :) I have 2 but they dont OC at all (Compaq's) but on air I hear about people getting 200Mhz maybe 300Mhz on air ? and some people have trouble with any increases. (luck of the draw) I wish you luck :)

I think its AMD bin selection they are realy good at picking out wich parts will run at a speed !
 
I dont think that 1.8 to 2.4ghz is to big to ask fo, i took my 3700+ from 2.2 to 2.85ghz on air and it was stable with my DFI, but i no longer have my mobo that will allow me to OC so I cant do that anymore. 🙁

Best,

3Ball
 
Also going from 1.8 to 2.4 is a 30% OC thats asking alot... it may be possible with water cooling but I dont think so on air ? Im not an Athlon64 expert by any means :) I have 2 but they dont OC at all (Compaq's) but on air I hear about people getting 200Mhz maybe 300Mhz on air ? and some people have trouble with any increases. (luck of the draw) I wish you luck :)

I think its AMD bin selection they are realy good at picking out wich parts will run at a speed !

Actually I've OC'd my A64 3200+ from 2.0 to 2.6... That's exactly 30%... With boxed cooler!
Venice cores are awesome overclockers, fast and cool 8)
 
Yeap, I've heard that too.
It seems that the first releases of those boards were very bad... But mine is pretty new, and I've updated the BIOS. Don't get confused, it isn't an A8N-SLI Deluxe or Premium - just A8N-SLI 8)
 
yah that was my thought, passive cooling (no fan noise or fan failing) and SLi, i for about the same price of a non. sounds like a good deal
 
Also going from 1.8 to 2.4 is a 30% OC thats asking alot... it may be possible with water cooling but I dont think so on air ? Im not an Athlon64 expert by any means :) I have 2 but they dont OC at all (Compaq's) but on air I hear about people getting 200Mhz maybe 300Mhz on air ? and some people have trouble with any increases. (luck of the draw) I wish you luck :)

I think its AMD bin selection they are realy good at picking out wich parts will run at a speed !
Know it or STFU. It's that simple. That applies for all the other threads you've participated.

Well arent you full of yourself :)

Edit:Oh and I do know this OCing something 30% is luck of the draw if you think every Venice core that comes off the line will OC 30% then your fanboy streak is showing... I will agree that they are way better then most of the other cores for how cool they run but saying something like "Oh I get 30% out of air on mine" thats fine just dont raise some one elses hopes of doing the same ! yes its possible and indeed you could say something like "Yeah you should at least get 10% or possibly more" thats the facts.
 
Also going from 1.8 to 2.4 is a 30% OC thats asking alot... it may be possible with water cooling but I dont think so on air ? Im not an Athlon64 expert by any means :) I have 2 but they dont OC at all (Compaq's) but on air I hear about people getting 200Mhz maybe 300Mhz on air ? and some people have trouble with any increases. (luck of the draw) I wish you luck :)

I think its AMD bin selection they are realy good at picking out wich parts will run at a speed !

You don't know much do you?

With my DFI Expert and and Optron 146 (2Ghz stock) I run 1:1 @ 2.6Ghz 24/7 on my house server on air (SI-120) in a CM Stacker case in a 20C room....it runs a nice cool 23C unless under 100% load,then it gets allllllll the way up to 33C!

Oh yeh everything is at stock volts as well.

I have also had it running with non 1:1 @ 2.9Ghz.

DFI and Optron FTW.
 
Also going from 1.8 to 2.4 is a 30% OC thats asking alot... it may be possible with water cooling but I dont think so on air ? Im not an Athlon64 expert by any means :) I have 2 but they dont OC at all (Compaq's) but on air I hear about people getting 200Mhz maybe 300Mhz on air ? and some people have trouble with any increases. (luck of the draw) I wish you luck :)

I think its AMD bin selection they are realy good at picking out wich parts will run at a speed !

You don't know much do you?

With my DFI Expert and and Optron 146 (2Ghz stock) I run 1:1 @ 2.6Ghz 24/7 on my house server on air (SI-120) in a CM Stacker case in a 20C room....it runs a nice cool 23C unless under 100% load,then it gets allllllll the way up to 33C!

Oh yeh everything is at stock volts as well.

I have also had it running with non 1:1 @ 2.9Ghz.

DFI and Optron FTW.

who ever that was directed toward just got pwnt.

and i kno optys ar ebetter for Ocing and have bigger caches.
 
Also going from 1.8 to 2.4 is a 30% OC thats asking alot... it may be possible with water cooling but I dont think so on air ? Im not an Athlon64 expert by any means :) I have 2 but they dont OC at all (Compaq's) but on air I hear about people getting 200Mhz maybe 300Mhz on air ? and some people have trouble with any increases. (luck of the draw) I wish you luck :)

I think its AMD bin selection they are realy good at picking out wich parts will run at a speed !

You don't know much do you?

With my DFI Expert and and Optron 146 (2Ghz stock) I run 1:1 @ 2.6Ghz 24/7 on my house server on air (SI-120) in a CM Stacker case in a 20C room....it runs a nice cool 23C unless under 100% load,then it gets allllllll the way up to 33C!

Oh yeh everything is at stock volts as well.

I have also had it running with non 1:1 @ 2.9Ghz.

DFI and Optron FTW.

who ever that was directed toward just got pwnt.

and i kno optys ar ebetter for Ocing and have bigger caches.

At least I know how to spell and type 😛 anyway im sure the people who post represent a scewed result... meaning if I only get a 150Mhz OC am I realy gonna brag about it ??? Use some common sense and dont be fools.

Edit: And by the way OC it till it pops see if I care its not my money 😉
 
I have owned 2 3500 venices, 1 3000 venice, 1 X2 3800 and one Opty 165. And I have a number of friends who have single core venices as well as dual core. Every single one I have ever owned would easily achieve a 30% over clock, and normally with either no voltage increase or a very minimal increase. The only thing that I have noticed to be a luck of the draw are the chips that run above 2.6-2.65 stable. I have seen them in person, 3000 @ 2.8 on air stable, and an Opteron 144@2.8 stable with no voltage increase.... but every one I have seen can do 2.6.... but that is just me. One of my friends had a bad experience with his X2 3800 which would not OC more than about 100-200 mhz. But that was the only one, and it is because it has memory controller issues above stock.
 
That has actually been an issue. The 10x multiplier is a nice addition in my opinion. If I were buying a dual or single core opty, I would consider the 10x multiplier for overclocking ease.
 
Yeah, I have a 165, and my buddy just got a 144 which is running @ 2.8 stock voltage.... he will obviously be increasing it in the near future, but having it at 2.8 stock voltage is pretty nice.
 
oh, if you could explain to me how to post screen shots in here, I can show you the 3000@ 2.8, the X2 3800 @ 2.6, the 165 @ 2.7 and the 144 @ 2.8 or higher all stable prime. Those are the only ones I have access to anymore. I overvolted my original 3500, the replacement I traded my buddy for some other hardware, and my 3000, not the one in question, was also traded. So, I can show you screen shots if you can explain to me how to post them.
 
I have had mixed success with my Venice. Its a little bastard somedays but I took it to 2.8Ghz but I had to run some serious voltage through it, but at stock I could do about 2650Mhz. I haven't met a A64 on the low end that can't do 30%, but on the high end thats asking alot. 2400Mhz x 30% = 720Mhz + 2400 = 3120Mhz, now that would be nuts 8O .

COurse with phase change anything is possible... thats my next goal. Hmmm I can see it now an opty 170 @ 3.2 give or take :twisted:
 
I have owned 2 3500 venices, 1 3000 venice, 1 X2 3800 and one Opty 165. And I have a number of friends who have single core venices as well as dual core. Every single one I have ever owned would easily achieve a 30% over clock, and normally with either no voltage increase or a very minimal increase. The only thing that I have noticed to be a luck of the draw are the chips that run above 2.6-2.65 stable. I have seen them in person, 3000 @ 2.8 on air stable, and an Opteron 144@2.8 stable with no voltage increase.... but every one I have seen can do 2.6.... but that is just me. One of my friends had a bad experience with his X2 3800 which would not OC more than about 100-200 mhz. But that was the only one, and it is because it has memory controller issues above stock.

Damn 5 chips thats alot... too many.... but oh well what can I say ? and Wusy they dont pop ? oh wait thats right they just keep OCing no matter what temp you run them at... you sound like the noob to me.

Edit: would that memory controller be the one built into the A64 ??? odd that it had an issue.
 
oh, if you could explain to me how to post screen shots in here, I can show you the 3000@ 2.8, the X2 3800 @ 2.6, the 165 @ 2.7 and the 144 @ 2.8 or higher all stable prime. Those are the only ones I have access to anymore. I overvolted my original 3500, the replacement I traded my buddy for some other hardware, and my 3000, not the one in question, was also traded. So, I can show you screen shots if you can explain to me how to post them.

You actualy traded OCed chips ??? I hope you informed the people who you traded them too, personaly I woulda gave them away if that was the case becouse you just dont know how much longer they might last. OCing kinda voids your warrenty and all that.

Edit:you need hosting to post images alot of free ones on the net :) just post a URL if you want. will look like Insert image:
 
I will get on the free hosting. I traded them to friends that knew what they were getting. And yeah, the memory controllers can be flaky, and a little worse with the dual core chips. The only way I have been able to fry one was from being a retard and maxing out the vcore and special vid on a dfi board. I managed to destroy the cpu, it could not take the 1.95 volts 8O
My friends trade cpu's amongst each other, Intel and AMD.... yeah, and like superfly said, try to get an FX-60 to do 30%.... no way, or some other high end chip, hard core cooling. I am not trying to prove you wrong, I am just telling you my experience with the cpu's. I am obviously being honest or I would not have told you about the bunk X2 3800..... it even crashes in BF2 with dual channel memory configured, it passes prime and memtest, but still unstable. Tried it on 3-4 different mother boards with 4 different brands of memory, took a cpu out of the setup that worked fine, added the crap one..... and, like clock work, same thing every time. But that was only one of how many, I am even starting to lose track. And in all honesty, a cpu is supposed to last 10-15 years from what I read..... so if it is overclocked safely and it only lasts 6 years.... I don't think anyone would notice..... I don't normally have a cpu for that long anyway. But as I said, they knew what the cpu's had been through, I would not sell/trade my friends or anyone else a cpu that I oc'ed without releasing that info.