Question Multiple bluescreens for the past 6 months

[Qsirp]

Hi,
I made my own pc about 9 months ago and everything worked perfectly, after a month or so I started getting a BSOD, with the stop code 'IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.
Then after that came the BSOD'S: System thread exception not handled and kmode exception not handled.

Now more then 6 months further and I'm still getting bluescreens, I feel like I've tried everything. Installed new ram, new SSD, updated all my driver, fresh windows install and searched on so many websites to try and find a fix. Now finally I've come here to ask help from anyone who maybe has any clue to what it could be.

System:
Motherboard: MSI X570 Carbon wifi
GPU: RTX 2070 super
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600
Ram: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 mhz XMP profile with 15 cas latency
Storage: adata xpg sx8200 pro (m.2 SSD) 3TB Toshiba harddrive.
Cooling: Cooler Master Masterliquid 240L
Power supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 750W Full Modular.
Case: Thermaltake Level 20 MT (for whatever reason anyone might wanna know)


Dump files:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cMADfZ2YIbDsLn_1Arkb52VldNNNpQYM?usp=sharing

These are only a few crashes I've had. Most of them disappeared because of fresh windows installs.

Crash List

Created by using BlueScreenView

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Dump File	Crash Time	Bug Check String	Bug Check Code	Parameter 1	Parameter 2	Parameter 3	Parameter 4	Caused By Driver	Caused By Address	File Description	Product Name	Company	File Version	Processor	Crash Address	Stack Address 1	Stack Address 2	Stack Address 3	Computer Name	Full Path	Processors Count	Major Version	Minor Version	Dump File Size	Dump File Time
060220-12250-01.dmp	6/2/2020 5:35:01 PM		0x00000139	0000000000000003[/TD] [TD]fffff588c9c378a0	fffff588c9c377f8[/TD] [TD]0000000000000000	ntoskrnl.exe	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					C:\Windows\Minidump\060220-12250-01.dmp	12	15	18362	761,597	6/2/2020 5:35:40 PM
060220-11859-01.dmp	6/2/2020 6:29:34 PM	IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL	0x0000000a	0000000000000000[/TD] [TD]00000000000000ff	0000000000000000[/TD] [TD]fffff8013b14980b	ntoskrnl.exe	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					C:\Windows\Minidump\060220-11859-01.dmp	12	15	18362	737,575	6/2/2020 6:30:13 PM
060320-12500-01.dmp	6/3/2020 12:25:24 PM	KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED	0x0000001e	ffffffffc0000005[/TD] [TD]0000000000000000	0000000000000008[/TD] [TD]0000000000000000	ntoskrnl.exe	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					C:\Windows\Minidump\060320-12500-01.dmp	12	15	18362	1,388,209	6/3/2020 12:26:09 PM
060320-12062-01.dmp	6/3/2020 4:08:43 PM	IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL	0x0000000a	00000000000001f0[/TD] [TD]00000000000000ff	00000000000000cb[/TD] [TD]fffff805152bed64	ntoskrnl.exe	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					C:\Windows\Minidump\060320-12062-01.dmp	12	15	18362	1,675,699	6/3/2020 4:09:26 PM
060320-12250-01.dmp	6/3/2020 5:00:00 PM	IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL	0x0000000a	000000000000028c[/TD] [TD]0000000000000002	0000000000000000[/TD] [TD]fffff8017f82e198	ntoskrnl.exe	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					x64	ntoskrnl.exe+1c2390					C:\Windows\Minidump\060320-12250-01.dmp	12	15	18362	703,591	6/3/2020 5:00:45 PM

I hope I've provided enough information and it would be amazing if anyone will be able to help me solve this issue.

 

[Qsirp]

69 on the motherboard? Um, how many case fans in that PC?

I ran the program for about 4 hours and this is the result
Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tOF2IRlg1NBXqvnGaXM9R4MFzaS07I2y/view?usp=sharing
My pc actually had a bluescreen at 13:22 and crashed, maybe we can see what went wrong.

 

[Qsirp]

So is the Rad being used as intake or exhaust? is it in the front or roof? have you cleaned the intake fans recently as without a filter you going to get lots of dust on them.

I actually modified the fans a bit, I have 2 at the top just normal intake, one at the back and the front is the rad as an intake for my CPU. I had already figured out that i had a pretty crappy case after I initially bought it, didn't really had the money to buy a different case, but definitely will in the future.

 

[Qsirp]

My Motherboard sits on 32c at idle. 69 would freak me out

Here this is what i mean, look at this photo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LSX3ocHLkBykiK3yRFBK73YbOlfhYt_h/view?usp=sharing
the system is not under any workload when this screenshot was taken.

 

[Colif]

I will look at the report tomorrow, I have to go to sleep soon.
Those temps aren't so bad.

There is always the chance that some sensors show fake scores, My motherboard has a few that are just wrong, all the time. I have one thats showing 126c right now, and another that shows -128c at the same time. Neither is even close.

I suspect with that airflow the GPU might get a little warm since it isn't getting any air from front of case and rad would just be giving it hot air. Any way to put an intake on the side of case? that at least gives GPU something. having 2 intakes on roof just feeds the exhaust fan... the cpu doesn't need cooling that much from intake fans as its got water already.

if it was me (and really, I don't know that much about water, used air cooling last 5 PC's, next PC likely have an AIO though) I would put the 2 intakes on the side of case and have the rad on the roof as exhaust blowing the hot air out top. From watching video, apart from removing front glass, its next best choice for both parts in PC.

I might be wrong, I look at report when i wake up

 

[Qsirp]

Another report from HW-Info, this time a bluescreen while playing a game, IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.
Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tDxyjwlg2Osn_786Gyud4SIeY7fPWWqd/view?usp=sharing

 

[Qsirp]

Any way to put an intake on the side of case?

I will try this. It could be that it doesn't fit though. because my GPU is longer than a normal size GPU

 

[Colif]

4 hour test - temps look okay, hottest is the chipset at 69 and it got cooler as hours progressed.
GPU was same, its temps dropped.

don't forget to give us dumps. One has to eventually help

 

[Qsirp]

Here are the BSOD's of the last 2 days, i hope something useful will come out of them.
Link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ri8waT5KtNVp5mPqnnfSox0H8Ls_VWC0?usp=sharing

 

[gardenman]

Hi, I ran the dump files through the debugger and got the following information: https://deviantgreat.htmlpasta.com/

Spoiler

File information:	061820-9046-01.dmp (Jun 18 2020 - 06:42:50)
Bugcheck:	APC_INDEX_MISMATCH (1)
Probably caused by:	ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: steam.exe)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 13 Hour(s), 41 Min(s), and 16 Sec(s)

File information:	061820-9031-01.dmp (Jun 18 2020 - 08:59:16)
Bugcheck:	IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (A)
Probably caused by:	ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: System)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 2 Hour(s), 15 Min(s), and 51 Sec(s)

File information:	061720-9296-01.dmp (Jun 17 2020 - 11:51:36)
Bugcheck:	ATTEMPTED_EXECUTE_OF_NOEXECUTE_MEMORY (FC)
Probably caused by:	memory_corruption (Process: LEDKeeper2.exe)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 26 Min(s), and 26 Sec(s)

File information:	061720-9140-01.dmp (Jun 17 2020 - 13:27:29)
Bugcheck:	DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION (133)
Probably caused by:	ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: System)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 1 Hour(s), 35 Min(s), and 17 Sec(s)

File information:	061720-11265-01.dmp (Jun 17 2020 - 17:00:58)
Bugcheck:	KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE (139)
Probably caused by:	ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: GameOverlayUI.)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 3 Hour(s), 32 Min(s), and 45 Sec(s)

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[Qsirp]

Hi, I ran the dump files through the debugger and got the following information: https://deviantgreat.htmlpasta.com/

Spoiler

File information:	061820-9046-01.dmp (Jun 18 2020 - 06:42:50)
Bugcheck:	APC_INDEX_MISMATCH (1)
Probably caused by:	ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: steam.exe)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 13 Hour(s), 41 Min(s), and 16 Sec(s)

File information:	061820-9031-01.dmp (Jun 18 2020 - 08:59:16)
Bugcheck:	IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (A)
Probably caused by:	ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: System)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 2 Hour(s), 15 Min(s), and 51 Sec(s)

File information:	061720-9296-01.dmp (Jun 17 2020 - 11:51:36)
Bugcheck:	ATTEMPTED_EXECUTE_OF_NOEXECUTE_MEMORY (FC)
Probably caused by:	memory_corruption (Process: LEDKeeper2.exe)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 26 Min(s), and 26 Sec(s)

File information:	061720-9140-01.dmp (Jun 17 2020 - 13:27:29)
Bugcheck:	DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION (133)
Probably caused by:	ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: System)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 1 Hour(s), 35 Min(s), and 17 Sec(s)

File information:	061720-11265-01.dmp (Jun 17 2020 - 17:00:58)
Bugcheck:	KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE (139)
Probably caused by:	ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: GameOverlayUI.)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 3 Hour(s), 32 Min(s), and 45 Sec(s)

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Thanks for debugging them again mate, I’m sure it’s going to be really helpful once again

 

[Qsirp]

Would it be a wise option to do a clean windows install and then try to keep my pc as clean as possible and see when the bluescreens start? Just start from scratch and see if it's really a hardware issue that's going on here.

Also, I'm going to buy this case when i get the money
https://www.lian-li.com/pc-o11-dynamic/

I also bought fans for the case, these fans are relatively cheap but are known for the good quality.
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07HNNNN2R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I am also going to buy new cables to route everything nice and neat so that there are concerns about cables that are loose or have a weird bent in them. Btw I do know that this is probably not going to help against any bluescreens but it will provide better airflow and a much cleaner system for me to look at and troubleshoot when I have to troubleshoot individual components.

 

[Colif]

Would it be a wise option to do a clean windows install and then try to keep my pc as clean as possible and see when the bluescreens start? Just start from scratch and see if it's really a hardware issue that's going on here.

its worth a try

That Lian LI was a case I looked at, only thing that stopped me was the extra cost of fans to cool it. Sure is better than what you have. I spent a few weeks looking at cases but then i stopped as I didn't really have money to buy a new PC at that time, and figured I wait a few months. I think case I decided on is a Fractal Design Mesh

 

[Qsirp]

That Lian LI was a case I looked at, only thing that stopped me was the extra cost of fans to cool it.

It depends on where you’re from but on amazon you can buy fans for really cheap from the brand UpHere, they are really good quality fans compared to other fans for that price. 6 fans for 55 euro

 

[Qsirp]

Just got my new case, fans and cables. All installed and ready, I’ll be doing a fresh windows install and see where I and up with the bluescreens. I’ll send a message on this forum if the next bluescreen takes place

 

[Qsirp]

BIG Update:
Did a clean windows install. After that updated windows and installed all drivers from the MSI website and Nvidia. After installing steam and MSI Dragon Center, I got 5 BSOD'S!! It could only be one of those programs or hardware.
Link to all the new dumps AFTER clean windows install:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kl8IWVfiCR6NasFQr8eGqDXDMo_8pqbk?usp=sharing

 

[Qsirp]

I've uninstalled steam and the dragon center. Going to look if I still get bluescreens. If I do not get any then it could only be one of those 2 programs!

 

[gardenman]

I ran the dump files through the debugger and got the following information: https://protrudentcrane.htmlpasta.com/

Spoiler

File information:	062520-9671-01.dmp (Jun 26 2020 - 02:04:42)
Bugcheck:	DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (D1)
Probably caused by:	memory_corruption (Process: System)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 08 Min(s), and 40 Sec(s)

File information:	062520-8921-01.dmp (Jun 26 2020 - 01:46:32)
Bugcheck:	SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M (1000007E)
Probably caused by:	memory_corruption (Process: System)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 22 Min(s), and 33 Sec(s)

File information:	062520-8875-01.dmp (Jun 26 2020 - 01:49:10)
Bugcheck:	KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED (1E)
Probably caused by:	memory_corruption (Process: DCv2.e)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 02 Min(s), and 12 Sec(s)

File information:	062520-8406-01.dmp (Jun 26 2020 - 01:55:35)
Bugcheck:	DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (D1)
Probably caused by:	memory_corruption (Process: System)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 03 Min(s), and 32 Sec(s)

File information:	062520-8203-01.dmp (Jun 26 2020 - 01:51:38)
Bugcheck:	KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE (139)
Probably caused by:	memory_corruption (Process: DCv2.e)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 02 Min(s), and 02 Sec(s)

Comment: The overclocking driver "NTIOLib_X64.sys" was found on your system. (MSI Afterburner or other MSI software)

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Edit: Results from the dump a few posts below: https://pastebin.com/HdG3c2AM

File information:	062620-7812-01.dmp (Jun 27 2020 - 01:09:55)
Bugcheck:	IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (A)
Probably caused by:	memory_corruption (Process: System)
Uptime:	0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 30 Min(s), and 14 Sec(s)

 

[alexbirdie]

Did you already try:

set Ram-voltage to 1.45 and soc-voltage to 1.1.( just for testing)

 

[Qsirp]

Did you already try:

set Ram-voltage to 1.45 and soc-voltage to 1.1.( just for testing)

What will this do actually?
I know it's undervolting the cpu and ram but will i lose much performance?

 

[Qsirp]

Did you already try:

set Ram-voltage to 1.45 and soc-voltage to 1.1.( just for testing)

Btw doesn’t work, still so many bsod’s

 

[Qsirp]

Update:
I got one bluescreen with the driver being tcpip.sys, here is the tink to that:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16XqIHN8y84BxE-urDgbmAXtMbfRvWXNV?usp=sharing

The worst happened, came to the conclusion that steam and the MSI Dragon Center app both are causing bsod's. I've done as I stated in previous posts, done a full clean windows install, and downloaded just drivers, steam and dragon center app. I almost immediately got bsod's.
Then I did another clean windows install to narrow down the causes, first starting with just MSI dragon center app without any drivers, and got bsod's, then I tried just installing steam without any drivers, and also bsod's.
Now I have just all the drivers installed and haven't gotten a bsod for the past hour or 2.
This could only mean that

1. steam and MSI Dragon Center aren't working correctly on my pc for some weird reason.
2. Hardware that's broken that causes windows to crash because I start up steam or MSI Dragon Center.

I'm going to try the following:

1. Install another game platform like Origin, Uplay or Epic Games. And see if I get any bsod's. If that isn't the case I'll know it's specifically steam that causes windows to crash.
2. Install just random programs and see if I get any bsod's, That would indicate that it's not just MSI Dragon Center or Steam that's the issue but that something screws up when just launching or using a program.

If you guys have any input on this I'd love to here it. And btw Gardenman, thanks for analyzing the dump files again

 

[Qsirp]

@Colif do you have an opinion on this??

 

[Colif]

I have busy elsewhere last few days. Sorry about that.

tcpip.sys = transmission control protocol/Internet protocol - its the drivers windows uses to talk to internet (as name implies) so I would look at new LAN/WiFI drivers.
That likely explains steams problems.

In a previous crash you had these drivers
Nov 25 2019 e1r68x64.sys Intel(R) Gigabit Adapter driver
Apr 02 2020 ibtusb.sys Intel(R) Wireless Bluetooth(R) Filter driver (Intel Corporation)
Apr 07 2020 Netwtw10.sys Intel Wi-Fi driver


All 3 have updates under LAN drivers area - https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-X570-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-WIFI#down-driver&Win10 64

 

[Qsirp]

In a previous crash you had these drivers
Nov 25 2019 e1r68x64.sys Intel(R) Gigabit Adapter driver
Apr 02 2020 ibtusb.sys Intel(R) Wireless Bluetooth(R) Filter driver (Intel Corporation)
Apr 07 2020 Netwtw10.sys Intel Wi-Fi driver

It's weird because after I installed the drivers from the MSI website I get bluescreens, but the drivers you listed just now are the drivers that I use now and I haven't had a single bluescreen in the past 2 days. and I am on just the drivers that Windows has installed automatically.

 

[Colif]

Dragon centre can include a driver that is capable of changing hardware settings so that could be why it crashes. I think I have heard of it being cause before.

Do you use WIFI or lan? its possible that Intel website has newer versions of all 3 now.

Although gardenman converted the last few dumps on Friday night, page is showing a 404 now or I would look at the evidence. That website randomly stops working like that and yet I can look at the results of the dump from June 19. How random.