Newegg lists a AM3+ motherboard

[jj463rd]

I thought that this was supposed to have a new chipset(?).
Mistake?
GIGABYTE GA-870A-USB3 AM3+ AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128485

I noticed on the screenshots at newegg the motherboard pictured shows a revision 3.0 (which is only an AM3 motherboard) however the revision 3.1 states that it is AM3+ CPU ready.Perhaps the revision 3.1 has the newer socket.
If so neweggs photos are mistaken (probably out of laziness).

Gigabyte lists this as AM3+ CPU ready ( and "Get Ready for New Generation of 32nm AMD AM3+ CPU
GIGABYTE's AMD motherboards are ready to support new generation of 32nm AMD AM3+ multi-core processors, delivering the very best platform for multitasking, multimedia and high performance gaming.")
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3788#

Gigabyte also lists other Socket AM3+ motherboards too on their website
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/list.aspx?s=42&jid=6&p=2&v=26

I noticed that on Gigabytes website that the revised motherboards are showing different colored sockets (can't quite zoom in to see the socket closer up though-oh wait you can zoom in -use the mouse to roll over and zoom in on specific parts and it is a AM3+ socket -Cool!).

Perhaps newegg is carrying a socket AM3+ motherboard after all (It had better be the revision 3.1 board with the newer AM3+ socket).

 

[COLGeek]

Thanks for sharing. Won't be long until the new AMDs hit the market.

 

[amdfangirl]

Shame it doesn't come in matx form.

 

[jj463rd]

It's useless considering AMD's 32nm arent expected to be out until 3 months later

Perhaps not useless as one possibly might be able to just Flash the BIOS and upgrade the CPU to the upcoming Bulldozer types in a couple of months from now (CPU upgrade).However I would be somewhat skeptical if this can be done (possibly yes or no but at least the socket has changed).
Perhaps also we might see newer and faster 32nm Phenom II's as well (a die shrink of the current ones with lower TDP's,faster speeds etc)).

If I were to build a system based on the upcoming Bulldozer CPU's it would be preferable to wait for a couple of months from now rather than be a first adopter and try this motherboard.Like I said it may be perfectly fine or then again there could be a possibility of it not working (or have a lesser performance) with the upcoming Bulldozer CPU's.

As we have seen before being an early adopter can show problems (like with the current chipsets on LGA 1155 motherboards etc.).It might be best to wait a couple of months (like 2 or 3) after the Bulldozer systems are available just to be comfortable and with confidence with building that platform.

Anyway it would be interesting if we heard back on someone getting this particular motherboard at newegg.

 

[amdfangirl]

32nm Phenoms are possible given Lllano at 32nm uses Phenom II derived cores on socket FM1.

 

[dirtmountain]

It's not useless. If you're buying a budget system right now you can get the AM3+ 870 ($95) and a low cost athlonIIx3 CPU at a very good price and have a clear path to Bulldozer a few months or a year down the line when you want to upgrade.

 

[amdfangirl]

ooooh could you add listen to me in your quote as well 😛

I've been saying this for weeks.

 

[aegisofrime]

Then you still have to get rid of the low cost CPU somehow. I guess you could leave it around as a backup, but I hate having things lying around doing nothing.

Honestly, unless your PC just died and you desperately need a new PC to tide you over until Bulldozer, I think for most people a more sensible decision would be to just get a 9x0 series motherboard for optimal performance and reliability.

 

[jf-amd]

32nm Phenoms are possible given Lllano at 32nm uses Phenom II derived cores on socket FM1.

You won't see a 32nm Phenom. 32nm is BD.

 

[amdfangirl]

I'm just saying it's possible to do. Take the Phenom II derived Llano core, cut off the GPU, make it AM3.

Not at all likely, but it could happen.

 

[jj463rd]

Well then if jf-amd says 32nm is BD then it's a good possibility this motherboard will support BD CPU's (Gigabyte says future AM3+ CPU support).There are 7XX AM3 motherboards and 8XX AM3 motherboards for current AM3 CPU's so it's a possibility that 8XX AM3+ motherboards could work as well as newer 9XX AM3+ ones.
Not certain though but Gigabyte would get some FLAK and customers could request a replacement if it's not true.However ASUS had claimed BD support on mere AM3 motherboards and that did not turn out as true because BD won't work (or fit) on AM3 sockets

 

[jf-amd]

There is a big difference between what is possible and what is probable. When you consider that every project is ~$5M, you have to sell a lot of parts to amortize that development cost. Seeing that AM3+ is the new socket and all of the new boards will support it, it would be a financial failure to do an AM3 in 32nm - the market just isn't there.

 

[jf-amd]

Well then if jf-amd says 32nm is BD then it's a good possibility this motherboard will support BD CPU's (Gigabyte says future AM3+ CPU support).There are 7XX AM3 motherboards and 8XX AM3 motherboards for current AM3 CPU's so it's a possibility that 8XX AM3+ motherboards could work as well as newer 9XX AM3+ ones.
Not certain though but Gigabyte would get some FLAK and customers could request a replacement if it's not true.However ASUS had claimed BD support on mere AM3 motherboards and that did not turn out as true because BD won't work (or fit) on AM3 sockets

I am making no claims about board support, only telling you what we are (and are not) building.

 

[amdfangirl]

Ok, so the general "wait until they've been confirmed" logic applies here?

In that case who wants to go and get muffins, there is so much less debate in muffins.

 

[jj463rd]

I am making no claims about board support, only telling you what we are (and are not) building.

Thanks jf-amd.We can really only rely upon your statements.
I myself would hold off until BD comes out and we can see other motherboards,benchmark comparisons etc.
Anyway it will be exciting for us.

 

[jf-amd]

Yeah, I was somewhat shocked by all the people complaining that we needed to have AM3+ boards out prior to BD. I am guessing that, without having the processor in their hands, they will actually all wait just to see if something better comes out. I am betting that none of those people have pulled the trigger and bought boards yet, and will most likely buy the board and processor together, despite all of their demands for boards first.

 

[geekapproved]

You won't see a 32nm Phenom. 32nm is BD.

I wouldn't bet on that. I believe they will sell 32nm Phenom II's as the low end and get rid of the Athlon II.

 

[jf-amd]

Actually I would bet on that. Care to make it interesting? I am always up for some quick money.

 

[amdfangirl]

I'll bet say, all of HIS money on it .

 

[rbd96976]

Glad I saw this... So , does one wait for the Bulldozer or get a Sandy Bridge?

 

[jj463rd]

Glad I saw this... So , does one wait for the Bulldozer or get a Sandy Bridge?

Well if I were to build a Sandybridge system I would wait till the Z68 chip set motherboards come out in May,2011 so one can have both Quicksync (for awesome encoding) and utilize beefy discrete graphics.Bulldozer will be out in June 2011 so
I think it's best to just sit on this,wait and see and find out how both systems will perform overall.We already know the great performance of Sandybridge (except for the current motherboards ugh).Anyway this is my opinion.

By the way I have found an almost identical initial post to mine here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=268521

 

[amdfangirl]

BTW - Amdfangirl.. Are you hot? :lol:

I don't quite understand.

How about you explain what you mean in terms of cupcakes?

 

[jj463rd]

malmental It was a mistake by newegg.They didn't carry a (upcoming) AM3+ motherboard.

Hence the new description GIGABYTE GA-870A-USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard.See the Feedback on the reviews.
It wasn't the newer revision.Only one person purchased the motherboard and as it turned out it wasn't the revised socket AM3+ version.

 

[jj463rd]

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