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[citation][nom]clivene09[/nom]Heh[/citation]
First, it doesnt. Second, the 360/ps3 are very very very old and weak in comparison to modern tech, so it really wouldnt take alot but those mobile platforms cant do it at those power levels yet.
First, it doesnt. Second, the 360/ps3 are very very very old and weak in comparison to modern tech, so it really wouldnt take alot but those mobile platforms cant do it at those power levels yet.
alphaalphaalpha
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[citation][nom]lpedraja2002[/nom]I don't get it is the A5x supposed to be a Quad-core or Dual Core? The previous article on Tom's said it's a Quad-core but this one says its a dual-core? Which is it? Tegra 3 (Quad core) vs A5X (Dual Core)?[/citation]
Tegra 3 is a quad core, A5X is a dual core. The graphics section of the A5X has four cores, the CPU has two.
[citation][nom]shafe88[/nom]Gee what's apple going to say next, it can run crysis, which I'm sure apple will try to fake like the benchmarks. Apple probably rigged the benchmarks to favor the A5x or hacked the program to to show higher numbers. Heck I have a celeron d 356 with a windows experience index of 9, does that mean it's faster than an i7 no, does that mean I hacked it to look faster yes, does that mean apple done the same thing with the ipad yes.[/citation]
Apple's A5 is one of the fastest chips on the market, especially for it's graphics.
[citation][nom]zachusaman[/nom]who uses usb or microSD or HDMI honestly? nobody, thats who.but everything is in 2048 x 1536 it would be foolish to bother with things such as usb or microSD. instead, Apple prioritizes what is trully important[/citation]
All Android users have MicroSD cards and I think WP7 can have them, although it's support is not as good. Most modern (all?) smart phones have USB and most people use it, especially to CHARGE THE PHONE and transfer data. Micro HDMI is a feature that plenty of people use as well. Your argument is completely invalid.
Tegra 3 is a quad core, A5X is a dual core. The graphics section of the A5X has four cores, the CPU has two.
[citation][nom]shafe88[/nom]Gee what's apple going to say next, it can run crysis, which I'm sure apple will try to fake like the benchmarks. Apple probably rigged the benchmarks to favor the A5x or hacked the program to to show higher numbers. Heck I have a celeron d 356 with a windows experience index of 9, does that mean it's faster than an i7 no, does that mean I hacked it to look faster yes, does that mean apple done the same thing with the ipad yes.[/citation]
Apple's A5 is one of the fastest chips on the market, especially for it's graphics.
[citation][nom]zachusaman[/nom]who uses usb or microSD or HDMI honestly? nobody, thats who.but everything is in 2048 x 1536 it would be foolish to bother with things such as usb or microSD. instead, Apple prioritizes what is trully important[/citation]
All Android users have MicroSD cards and I think WP7 can have them, although it's support is not as good. Most modern (all?) smart phones have USB and most people use it, especially to CHARGE THE PHONE and transfer data. Micro HDMI is a feature that plenty of people use as well. Your argument is completely invalid.
An Apple presentation that shows off pretty graphs without any real evidence and when quesitoned the traditional response is, "look pretty butterfly", or pats you on the head and says, "there there dear, you know we're right, we're Apple"... reminds me of a TV show from the late 80's early 90's... Dinosaurs.... the WESAYSOCORP.... "WESAYSO, why because WESAYSO", check out an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E89KzJUvMFs]
[citation][nom]zzz_b[/nom]Everybody talks about the resolution and graphics.I do not want to take anything away from Apple, the display must be very nice. The question is how will it be used? The HD movies are 1920x1080. Games are not there yet either.Nobody is saying one word about USB, microSD, HDMI,... connectivity. I think these are very important too.[/citation]
Their chip did better in single threaded applications. If you look in the miulti-threaded applications side, you can't even see Apples Chip. In fact apples A5 Doesn't even beat the Tegra 2 in the application.
Their chip did better in single threaded applications. If you look in the miulti-threaded applications side, you can't even see Apples Chip. In fact apples A5 Doesn't even beat the Tegra 2 in the application.
[citation][nom]zzz_b[/nom]Everybody talks about the resolution and graphics.I do not want to take anything away from Apple, the display must be very nice. The question is how will it be used? The HD movies are 1920x1080. Games are not there yet either.Nobody is saying one word about USB, microSD, HDMI,... connectivity. I think these are very important too.[/citation] It's hilarious to me that you can't even get beyond 1920x1080 graphics in a desktop for a very reasonable price point and Apple is trying to push it on a tiny tablet screen it's rather absurd for a screen that size eye strain much, but it's all about the specs and the apple fanboys will eat it up like the fools they are.
What apple claims is outright slander. #1 as far as graphics go, nvidia has the upper hand in effects. Physx, lighting, and effects were proven to be a much mover vivid and intense gaming experience on tegra 3 than the same iPad games. Yes textures are sharper, but did that make the xbox 360 a lesser graphical competitor to the ps3? Definitely not #2 apple claims better graphics than xbox And ps3? Complete BS. Just because you upped the resolution higher than standard resolution and probably doubled the amount of ram means squat. Its all about bandwidth and cpus, because ultimately your cpu's determine your overall performance and geometry count. Crap geometry is easy to spot and, its not pretty.
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No no, you misunderstood people... The graph shows how cooler and prettier the iPad is from other products... Or maybe how much more expensive 😛
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No, guys, I figured it out, it's totally true. Here's the mathematical premise I worked up to explain how apple performs its benchmarks:
Cc = cpu frequency multiplier constant = 133
Oc = apple clock speed
COc = competition clock speed
A = Cook's Constant = sqrt(4)*sqrt(4)
Nc1 = Competitor Cores
Nc2 = Apple Device Cores
P = Competition Core state adjustment 1 = (COc/Cc)
P1 = Apple Core state adjustment 2 = (OC/Cc)
FCa = Core Adjustment = P1+(P-P1)
R = Quality Modifier = FCa/100
C = Equal opportunity normalization = Nc2\Nc1
Apple = C(((R)A)P)
Round up to nearest whole number for marketing purposes
Cc = cpu frequency multiplier constant = 133
Oc = apple clock speed
COc = competition clock speed
A = Cook's Constant = sqrt(4)*sqrt(4)
Nc1 = Competitor Cores
Nc2 = Apple Device Cores
P = Competition Core state adjustment 1 = (COc/Cc)
P1 = Apple Core state adjustment 2 = (OC/Cc)
FCa = Core Adjustment = P1+(P-P1)
R = Quality Modifier = FCa/100
C = Equal opportunity normalization = Nc2\Nc1
Apple = C(((R)A)P)
Round up to nearest whole number for marketing purposes
No, guys, I figured it out, it's totally true. Here's the mathematical premise I worked up to explain how apple performs its benchmarks:
Cc = cpu frequency multiplier constant = 133
Oc = apple clock speed
COc = competition clock speed
A = Cook's Constant = sqrt(4)*sqrt(4)
Nc1 = Competitor Cores
Nc2 = Apple Device Cores
P = Competition Core state adjustment 1 = (COc/Cc)
P1 = Apple Core state adjustment 2 = (OC/Cc)
FCa = Core Adjustment = P1+(P-P1)
R = Quality Modifier = FCa/100
C = Equal opportunity normalization = Nc2\Nc1
Apple = C(((R)A)P)
Round up to nearest whole number for marketing purposes
Cc = cpu frequency multiplier constant = 133
Oc = apple clock speed
COc = competition clock speed
A = Cook's Constant = sqrt(4)*sqrt(4)
Nc1 = Competitor Cores
Nc2 = Apple Device Cores
P = Competition Core state adjustment 1 = (COc/Cc)
P1 = Apple Core state adjustment 2 = (OC/Cc)
FCa = Core Adjustment = P1+(P-P1)
R = Quality Modifier = FCa/100
C = Equal opportunity normalization = Nc2\Nc1
Apple = C(((R)A)P)
Round up to nearest whole number for marketing purposes
The only processor that gets close to A5 uses the same GPU as A5. Renesas Mobile APE5R uses SGX543MP2. It outperforms the Tegra3 with full 24 bit color depth. Tegra3 supports only 16 bit washed out color depth.. A5X probably uses an MP4 version of the same GPU .. so it will be much higher performance compared to Tegra3.
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[citation][nom]DaddyW123[/nom]BBC Top Gear showed how a Mustang was more fuel efficient than a Prius. They Drove the Prius around a track as hard as they could, all the Mustang had to do was keep up with it. Because the Mustang engine is so much bigger, it didn't have to work as hard to maintain the same speed. So the prius actually used more fuel.Any test can be made to get the results you want. Doesn't mean the results mean anything.[/citation]
It was actually a BMW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badoMjA_rW0
not to take take away from what you said
It was actually a BMW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badoMjA_rW0
not to take take away from what you said
[citation][nom]darkchazz[/nom]"The ASUS Transformer's GPU is only 12-cores..."More cores doesn't always mean better performance..Remember the 8-core gpu in the Tegra 2 ? yeah that one was completely smoked by the 4-core Mali gpu in the exynos SoC, and I hate to say this, but both were vastly outperformed by the 2-core SGX543 MP2 gpu in apple's A5...[/citation]
Saved me a comment. Exactly. For Asus to claim that 12-cores means anything despite being outdone by a dual core GPU in the SGX543 MP2 in the iPad 2 is a joke:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5163/42749.png
Saved me a comment. Exactly. For Asus to claim that 12-cores means anything despite being outdone by a dual core GPU in the SGX543 MP2 in the iPad 2 is a joke:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5163/42749.png
[citation][nom]DaddyW123[/nom]BBC Top Gear showed how a Mustang was more fuel efficient than a Prius. They Drove the Prius around a track as hard as they could, all the Mustang had to do was keep up with it. Because the Mustang engine is so much bigger, it didn't have to work as hard to maintain the same speed. So the prius actually used more fuel.Any test can be made to get the results you want. Doesn't mean the results mean anything.[/citation]
And this applies to graphics benchmarks how?
The Tegra 3 loses out even in the slower iPad 2 GPU in pretty much every test. Since you claim that any test can be made to get the results you want, please prove that the iPad 2 GPU is slower than Tegra 3? Hint: you can't.
And this applies to graphics benchmarks how?
The Tegra 3 loses out even in the slower iPad 2 GPU in pretty much every test. Since you claim that any test can be made to get the results you want, please prove that the iPad 2 GPU is slower than Tegra 3? Hint: you can't.
NVIDIA has been releasing one chip at a time because they are a newcomer to the mobile processor business. Like what the company is doing in the PC business, they are going to release many chips with different levels of performance. It's not that hard for NVIDIA to make a fast GPU, given how parallel its apps are, by adding more cores. But more GPU cores means more area thus a larger and more expensive chip. If their customers want that, NVIDIA can produce a chip like that. Also, once they are into the GPU performance war, companies like Apple and Qualcomm may run into patent trouble given how long NVIDIA has been building GPUs and the related patents it has accumulated.
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Apple would never lie or flaw proof or evidence against Samsung or Asus. There is proof below that they only tell the truth. So you have to believe what ever Apple claims.
http://www.theconnectedwire.com/2011/08/apple-allegedly-messed-with-evidence-in-samsung-patent-case/
http://www.theconnectedwire.com/2011/08/apple-allegedly-messed-with-evidence-in-samsung-patent-case/
[citation][nom]subaru41[/nom]Apple would never lie or flaw proof or evidence against Samsung or Asus. There is proof below that they only tell the truth. So you have to believe what ever Apple claims.http://www.theconnectedwire.com/20 [...] tent-case/[/citation]
keyword: allegedly.
And lets remember that this case was because Samsung copied the iPad, and was found to be infringing.
keyword: allegedly.
And lets remember that this case was because Samsung copied the iPad, and was found to be infringing.
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