Nvidia CEO: The PC Has Lost its Magic

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[citation][nom]maigo[/nom]Nvidia hasn't made anything new in 2 years[/citation]

True, yet at high resolution with all the eye candy turned on we can damn near match the 5970 performance with those 2yo cards in SLI (GTX285). Not saying it would be affordable at all, but performance-wise those 2yo cards are still quite kickass. Even in a single GPU setup the aged and decrepit 285 is about 80% of a 5870.

I'm not saying I would buy one, way too expensive and I want to get on the DX11 bandwagon (mainly for the new STALKER).
 
PC's have definitly not lost thier magic, the last two generations have been spoiled with features and amazing graphics and improvments.

try going back ten years ago and spending more than 30 seconds in a pre 2000 3d environment, some people are spoiled by the rapid exponential rate of quality, everything reaches a rennaisance however,

where 3d has come in the last 20 years and where it will be in the next 20 is surely an amazing thing.

as far as games and pc magic is concerned i felt the magic recently with fallout 3, for a week and a half i was immersed from the time i woke until the time i went to bed, then i beat it and came back to the regular world. im starting to feel it with dragon age, games and pcs will always have that potential as a storytelling medium,

its when companies and silly ceo's muck up the scene with trying to create monopolys and create problems for developers, like physx, and programming sabotage that prevents the artists from delivering to the fan base.

mr jen is truly the green goblin grinch who has stolen many a gamers christmas' in the sense that he has done nothing over his career to streamline a unified industry api that helps the process of
artist >=> fan.

maybe if he hadnt been muckin things up for so many years thier would have been a few games that grabbed him by now and shown him a bit of the magic. . .
 
[citation][nom]jkflipflop98[/nom]. . . you forgot the "and you don't know how to properly set up a computer" at the end.[/citation]

Very funny. FYI I built and setup my computer myself- all hand picked parts. I'm experienced with using many operating sytems (including mainframes) and use 'nix on a regular basis. I also program games and apps (as a hobby) in x86 assembly, C, and C++.

I know my stuff when it comes to computers, so don't patronise me with stupid remarks such as that. I've probably a much better working knowledge of them than you ever will.
 
[citation][nom]brisingamen[/nom]im afraid ati will release a 6xxx product before we see a fermi peice availible.[/citation]

Unlikely yet possible, it would probably just be a re-branded 5xxx series with a smaller fab process and higher clocks. IMO there is nothing wrong with that if performance increases but Nvidia gets bashed left and right for that same process.

Fermi has the possibility to make some decent steps forward, lets just hope they are competetive in the games market (where they should be) and the other bells and whistles are just that.
 
I love how the Nvidia CEO bashes PC's and praises everything Apple.......but his company's "primary focus" is still making products for PC gaming. wtf.
 
[citation][nom]darraghcoy[/nom]Very funny. FYI I built and setup my computer myself- all hand picked parts. I'm experienced with using many operating sytems (including mainframes) and use 'nix on a regular basis. I also program games and apps (as a hobby) in x86 assembly, C, and C++. I know my stuff when it comes to computers, so don't patronise me with stupid remarks such as that. I've probably a much better working knowledge of them than you ever will.[/citation]
Then how do you explain some of us have rigs that when the power button is pressed we have the system up and working in less than 30 seconds, and it certainly doesnt take "thousands" to do it. No one is doubting your ability to screw together a few parts but i've made enough PCs over the years to know that the wrong combination will result in an expensive paperweight.
 
[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Then how do you explain some of us have rigs that when the power button is pressed we have the system up and working in less than 30 seconds, and it certainly doesnt take "thousands" to do it. No one is doubting your ability to screw together a few parts but i've made enough PCs over the years to know that the wrong combination will result in an expensive paperweight.[/citation]

Okay, enough of this. When I said PC's nowadays take an upward of 5 mintues to boot it *might* have been a figure of speech- you know for dramatic effect? Though for some systems, it may not be too far from the truth...

But I wasn't joking about not being able to keep up with typing- Vista locks up like that for no reason at regular intervals. And it does get progressively slower the longer it's installed; this much I've noticed.

My rig works fine, it plays Crysis or other demanding games quite comfortably on max.

To my original point. PC games are becoming increasingly unpopular for many valid reasons, some of which I mentioned previously. We've made great advancements over the years but regressed in many other areas. In many ways the 10/15 years since 1991 was the golden age for PC gaming and it's all been downhill since there (with a few exceptions). NVIDIA are not wrong in this.

... now wheres Fermi?
 
The PC Has Lost its Magic

Soo true,mine lost it the instant they put their flawed geforce go 7600 chip on it....
 
My USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0 ports disagree. My SSD raid array disagrees. So do my dual 5870s in xfire running 3 screens in eyefinity. So does my radiator and water cooling apparatus. See, when someone comes to my house they are amazed before I even flip the power switch.

Maybe Huang is not impressed because he is running a Mac with an Nvidia GPU. I wouldn't be impressed either. Huang's oversized iTouch that he calls a tablet also does not impress me.
 
[citation][nom]joejamesatou[/nom]"Blah blah blah. Blah blah. Blah. Don't focus on our lack of DirectX 11 cards since AMD has sold over 1 million. I am scared."-Nvidia's CEO Jen-Hsun Huang[/citation]

Over 2 million in four months, actually, and counting. He should be scared, Fermi is at least two months away from reaching stores in low numbers. If AMD at least keeps these numbers they will have sold 3 million DX11 cards, and they won't, in a good sense, because with TSMC's 40 nm process sorted out and the new mainstream 5670 out and in a few days the low end ones, they will probably have sold over 4 million by the time Fermi arrives. And I doubt anything but the top end fermi card will come out by then; more months of waiting for the cheaper cards ensue.

Don't get me wrong, I love competition, and I'm still using an 8800GT Turboforce Edition in my main machine, but all others (Media Center, secondary PC's, mom's PC) are using 4 series Radeons.

By the time Nvidia has something DX11 for the mainstream, ATI will have come out with evolutions of their current cards. We will have the equivalent of a 4890 in the form of a 5890, and so on. Nvidia is on the wrong foot right now. I wish them well, because we need healthy competition to ensure a choice between better products.
 
I think you guys forget that this guys PC is going to have a PCIe 1TB super SSD drive where he would boot up some what close to one second.

He is right to say this because sooner or later you might grow a brain and make a decent amount of money you can buy such a PC as well. Won't be long.

 
*&%$ this guy(Nvidia CEO) since all this seems to be a commercial.

O no the pc lost its magic, but we can find it for you again with our awesome parallel processing gpu.

And No not an ATI guy since i have 9600gt and yes i will probably buy Fermi.
 
The best looking game, CRYSIS, is 2 years old now. Everything that came after is a shitty console port.

On the other hand, as far as PHYSICS allows, there is tons of room for improvement and advancement with current digital computers for atleast a decade.

IMO, this douchebag needs to invest resources in not only releasing new technologies but also promote the market for it instead of going trash talking about its death...
 
[citation][nom]r3t4rd[/nom]Yeah and its because of Nvidia there is hardly any competition left except for ATI. Two Companies (little advancement and inovation) vs 70 Companies (Sky is the limit for advancement and inovation). Brings back the good old days of 3DFX, Diamond Mult, Trident...Sounds awfully similar to Intel and Rambus Memory fiasco. You have to remember, Rambus Memory was much more faster and better than DDR. But, DDR was cheaper. Jen-Hsun Huang is really saying: "ATI is kicking our behinds. We can't get Fermi out the door. People are catching onto our re-hash of older GPU's. Intel's a bitch. Um...nevermind that, look we know you guys will buy into our GPGPU processing because we are going to charge you an arm and a leg for something mediocre."[/citation]


Where is Fermi? Nvidia might have been too busy on the business aspect of their company and most likely focusing on R&D as well as industrial/commercial GPUs rather than gaming as their reps have been hinting in past interviews and articles. They will come back with a different approach and strategy in mind and hopefully improve on their drivers and PhysX as they have a great lineup of companies to depend on for support... on all fronts as well.... a GpGPU.... they should also re-into hybrid SLI but without the PC needing to reboot...
 
[citation][nom]blaze15301[/nom]technology always amazes me because i went from a 200mghz cpu with like 28 mb of ram to a whooping tri core 2.8 cpu with all the trimmings[/citation]
My second computer had 16MB of RAM, I currently have 6GB of RAM (well, 4GB because one stick became unstable).
I'm only 18.

It's how fast technology advances that amazes me.
It will continue to for years now. I guess that's what makes me a technology enthusiast.
 
[citation][nom]thatguy111[/nom]I think you guys forget that this guys PC is going to have a PCIe 1TB super SSD drive where he would boot up some what close to one second.He is right to say this because sooner or later you might grow a brain and make a decent amount of money you can buy such a PC as well. Won't be long.[/citation]

And sooner or later you might grow a brain, cease being a dick, and refrain from trolling Tom's Hardware. Won't be long.
 
[citation][nom]alikum[/nom]I don't know what's in this guy's head but to say that hardware has reached a mature level is an understatement.[/citation]
Don't you mean overstatement?
 
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