Dont you think 20 of october is almost end of october? might that be a release date for C55 implemented in P5N32? I hope so....
It has a * next to it as far as I remember , I may be wrong but I checked it on there website and its because its limited with the FSB that makes this a problem.According to there tech manual it does have EPP
alright. i think im gonna give excaliber another couple days. i dont really care i guess about the extra 60 or so dollars.
but.. if i do cancel.. and go to say.. like buy.com or something. im pretty sure my wait for the board will be extended.. which leads me to..
is there any cheap cheap boards.. i can buy to use in the meantime?
that can use.. PCI-e x16, DDR2 800Mhz, SATA.. LGA775 for either the conroe E6300 or this Pentium 4 531 that i have just sitting here collecting dust...
"If you think we dont know the following sentence "computer technology updates every single day", then let me tell you we do."
There are a lot of things to come, if you want to wait a month thats fine and dandy but some people always keep waiting around for the "next best thing" and that's not always wise.
Incredibly valid point spoken by 3lfk1ng, incredibly valid indeed. I would like to be the first to heartily agree that he is entirely correct in his statements. Unfortunately, it seems like this board is losing steam.
"for some reason you are telling us that we dont know what we are doing?"
we are here in this topic to talk about what the best decision will be either the c19 just released or to wait.
We all know some "stupid" people think they will have the best technology for months, but we know they wont and that whatever they think they are wrong. We all know that...
If your topic was about motherboards, why you mentioned ram, videocards, 1000 watts PSU, DDR3, USB 3.0 you also talked about Toms Hardware, alienware, vista etc... isnt that offtopic?
And dont call me a hater because I have been doing this topic (Yes 32 pages going to 33)
but you just pissed me off with that topic which didnt have anything to do with what we are here to talk about.
Show me where i said this and I'll make you a millionare somehow...
we are here in this topic to talk about what the best decision will be either the c19 just released or to wait.
No, we are talking about "nVidia nForce 590 Chipsets For Conroe. Where are Them?" read the topic of the initial poster. They are coming out soon and I simply pointed out a few cool options that will be coming along with the 590 chipset, or around that general timeframe.
Who's we??? Your assuming that everyone here posting in this forum is just as smart as you would like to think you are.
If your topic was about motherboards, why you mentioned ram, videocards, 1000 watts PSU, DDR3, USB 3.0 you also talked about Toms Hardware, alienware, vista etc... isnt that offtopic?
Wow, congrats you have no life
orly? Sooo....why did my entire topic cover the soon to come future of motherboards. Following closely to the full release of the 590 chipset
Man I was all enthusiastic about the Premium board when it was announced and it seemed so perfect and everything that I could ask for was there. Now all of this C19 vs. C55 stuff has sprung up. I know people have been saying October is now the magic month for nforce590 w/ C55 but does that actually mean October? Seriously? I would doubt it. Is something so small really worth waiting for? And with an unknown benefit? Even with C55, I don't think that the overclockability of an nforce board would beat that of a board with P965 of today, or whatever Intel releases between now and the eventual release of C55. How big of a difference would it make? We here have probably done more research into this board than 90% of the people that are actually going to buy it anyway. It's not like OCing on a Premium would be terrible; not the best, but surely not terrible.
Isn't the biggest feature of the Premium the fully-fledged official SLI support, with overclockability second to that? The P965 boards are the other way around, putting better overclocking before SLI (at least official SLI that is) which seems to be more like what some people are looking for judging from the amount of times people mention C55 (an overclocking feature, if anything).
I guess what I'm saying is that if you were looking simply for the best overclocker, you would be buying a P965, and not really even considering the P5N32* line. If you prioritized SLI, you would get the P5N32 Premium C19 or C55 without much fuss over having one or the other as the core feature of the board is kept the same. Or I guess you could try to have both features on an unknown, unreleased, and unnamed board that is somewhat faster and will be out eventually.
lol sorry about ranting, too :roll:
Well, heres my perspective...
Waiting the for best of the best is pointless
With the C19 or C55, trying to keep up with the most recent of technology is pointless when it comes to computers. You can spend $3000 only to find out that 2 weeks later there is a better memory module, better gfx card, and a better etc. It's mind numbing. If you want something and it will please your needs get it, no sense in waiting...
If you wait for the C55...by the time it's about to come out you will hear of some new thing to replace the C55 within a few months and then you will be wanting to hold off on the C55 and continue the whole vicious circle all over again.
Let's say you got the C55 paired with the 590sli chipset, two weeks later you'll get word of a C55 with some new chipset(6xxsli or and intel 9xxseries) or a sucessor to the C55 (Cxx or something)
Or you'll get a new mobo with a C55 then there will be a better mobo in a week or perhaps a more deluxe version or a new processor that uses a different socket type coming out in a month or two or a new mobo that natively supports a higher ddr2 memory...Uhg *yawn*
Also when pcie-16x got released they talked about raising the bandwidth to pcie-32x soon after 16x became standard... (think of agp 1x to agp 2x to 4x then to an 8x) so are you now going to wait for the release of pcie-32x slots on a new motherboard? Pcie-16x will get outdated soon enough...then you would have to get a new mobo and new gfx card.
The news about the g80 from nvidia and R600/R680 from ati are saying that they will require somewhere around a 1000watt psu for Crossfire and SLI configurations using a 3rd video card for Physics or using 4 video cards together. So might as well get a 1000watt psu to be somewhat future proof. Thermaltake is coming out with a 1200watt soon that support quad sli.
External graphics cards have been talked about...to reduce the need for a huge powersupply...
Internet bandwidth is becoming faster....will there be some new standard in ethernet cables?
DDR3 is moving it's way to motherboards to replace DDR2 are you going to wait for that?
NEWSFLASH: Tom's $10,000 computer...is already outdated. So are all the top of the line computers from Falcon northwest,DELL XPS, and Alienware.
People bought the C2D for top of the line...within two weeks there was word of the Quad core from intel and amd spreading like wildfire (there was news about it before the c2d launch, but not many talked about it)
The only reason to wait for a new motherboard would be to wait for one that incorperates some of Vista's new technology if you plan on getting the new operating system to use some of it's most advanced features. The coolest one being that it will allow the Vista operating system to use pen/flashdrives plugged into usb2.0 slot as added memory when they are plugged in to your computer allowing faster bandwidth yields than current harddrive to cpu configurations...kind of like a much slower virtual ram..now that's something worth waiting for.
Speaking of USB2.0...USB3.0 is in the works allowing much more power to be fed through the slot so it can power some serious power hungry devices.
There's news on motherboards will will feature a seperate socket next to the cpu for added upgradability are you going to wait for that?
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4258
Asus and Gigabyte merger...I want gigabytes error post on Asus mobos...can't wait to see what they come up with.
And last but not least, arent you the slightest bit curious on what new technologies the AMD-ATI merger will create...imagine a graphics card thats not made to support a both intel and amd processors...imagine a graphics card made specifically for amd cpu's that perfectly allocate every process creating a huge boost in performance (specific support for amd memory controllers, hyper transport, etc etc etc). This means that the gpu wont have to beat around the bush just so it can operate with both intel and amd preocessors. It would be seamless...or it could be.
Anyways...thats my take on things, no point in getting the best of the best...
Here is what I plan on getting (i know the site looks like crap..but it makes my job easier)
www.geocities.com/bigelf72/uc
Since you're saying you can wait until November, then here's what I would do:
I would skip any of the 590 chipset boards coming out later this month from ASUS and BIOSTAR. They are based on the nVidia Crush C19 chipset, which suck for overclocking. They can barely muster 330-350FSB overclocks.
Come November you should start seeing boards with the nVidia C55 chipset which many have speculated will be an overclockers dream for Conroe owners.
I would personally wait to see what DFI has up its sleeve. They will be releasing a C55 chipset board in November. That will be my next board. Until then, I will stick with my ASUS P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe which gets me a max 340FSB overclock. Not much, but it will have to do for now...
Good luck with your next motherboard.
ASUS has announced their latest P5N32-SLI Premium/WiFi-AP board based on the "eradicated" nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition chipset and interestingly this board has 3 x PCI Express x16 slot (2 for SLI and one for Physics card). One could be mistaken that there is a NVIDIA Physics card from the PR but it probably mean that a 3rd NVIDIA graphics card (we reported before here) can be plugged into the 3rd x16 slot to do Physics calculations, similar to the ATi Crossfire Physics concept of using 3 graphics cards which we have seen during Computex. Apparently, only ASUS will mass produce boards based on nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition where others have opted for the upcoming C55 chipset to be launched in November. Luckily, C55 is pin compatible with nForce 590 SLI chipset so no major changes are required.
We had a little chat with DFI this evening and they informed us that their highly anticipated LANParty UT nF590SLI-T2R/G motherboard has been officially canceled. It seems that DFI had decided to discontinue the motherboard before it was even released. Apparently, DFI is not very happy with NVIDIA's C19 chipset which resulted in poor overclocking when implemented on any motherboard. If you didn't know, the DFI LANParty UT nF590SLI-T2R/G motherboard is based on the nF590 Intel Edition C19 chipset which officially supports Intel Core 2 Duo processors and Quad SLI. The motherboard is one of the meanest looking socket LGA775 motherboards in the market and it also comes with a high-end digital PWM.
Nevertheless, DFI is currently working on the newer NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition C55 chipset and the motherboard has been rescheduled from 2007 to Q4 2006. We can expect a brand new DFI Intel Edition SLI motherboard within 2 to 3 months time and we were told that DFI is putting their main focus in this project.
For nVidia, nForce 500 Intel Edition family is the new option. nForce 590 SLi Intel Edition(C19 SLi+ MCP55) supports 2x16 SLi, while nForce 570 Ultra Intel Edition(C19Ultra + MCP51) has no SLi function. C55 chipset is the replacement of C19 northbridge, featuring 1333MHz FSB and DDR2-800. It’s expected to be releasing in 2007 Q1. In addition, Supporting ECC Registered and Memory scrubbing on Single-bit errors, C55 may also appear in the workstation and server market. In addition, it has rumored that nVidia plans to provide Intel based IGP solution, yet it’s not confirmed.
Thats the money shot , right there , hit it on right in the middle.I Just want it now, and in several months when Asus R.O.G. Nforce 590
Sli Intel Edition Comes out i just will pick it up, thats it. 😀
Re: nVidia nForce 590 Chipsets For Conroe. Where are Them? NOT HERE, NOT EVEN CLOSE, LOOK ELSEWHERE!"