NVIDIA nForce 590/680i For Conroe, Where Are They? HERE!

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Thanks for the link Dan, though I was dissapointed to see that standard is 667 🙁 . Guess I'll have to try and find some low latency ram then. Ohwell, I suppose I'll save some cash though. :?
 
About this 680i board with 3 PCI-EXP slots. I know that one (PCIEXP x8) of them will be for a physics card, but I recall reading that you will be able to put an older graphics card (Like my 7800GT) in that slot, and it will do the physics work.

Did I get some bad info or is this correct? If its correct, I might not get rid of this card when I get the new DX10 cards! Can anyone clarify for me? Thanks! :)
 
older card as physics card? That sounds crazy.. I can't find any info on it.. I hope its true.. Ive got 2 7800 gtx's I'd love to extend the life of when 8800's come out.
 
It does make sense...
A physics card is really just a specialised processor capable of doing lots more floating point ops than your cpu, and also has hardware support for homgenous transformation matrix calculations. ..... now guess what a GPU is... almost exactly the same thing. Actually even the older video cards haver better floating point performance and more memory than the aegia physx card.

Also... nvidia (and therefore ati) want to get into the physics card biz... do they:

1) spend lots of money developing a new physics chip that does very nearly the same thing as the gpu chips they already have

2) use the gpu chips they have already.

Assuming 2), all they then have to do is add support for physx api to their existing drivers. The only question then is will they allow their existing video cards to process physx, or will they artificially lock them out so we have to buy a new physics card that has the right ID for the driver to enable physx, but otherwise is the same hardware as a video card but without a video out connector.

It basically comes down to how much in potential new sales they want to give away in order to 1) totally undermine aegia and 2) please their existing customer base, because they are in an excellent position to basically add the technology for almost no cost to their drivers and make it available to existing spare gpu owners if they wanted.
 
In bios I OC to FSB 1280/800 and on 3d benchmark scored 8902 from the 8533 at default setting.

It started running warm then and rebooted to get to bios to reset and could not. Had to do the jumper clear to fix it. HAHA
 
I think you dont have to clear cmos on newer Asus motherboards by jumper, just unplug the powercord for a while, then it boots on some failsave settings.
 
Kind of surprised we haven't heard from more people on their ASUS premium board. I guess not as many people bought it or want to admit they did! LOL
I'd still like to see some more reviews on it.
 
Ya see, here's the thing.

All new tech is a carrot on a string on a pole and we're all chasing after it.

Most carots that are on the string are new and better looking then the last.

So we decide to either eat the carrot thats no longer on the pole or keep chasing after the newest and latest carrot.

Myself, I'm not a OC'er much and since most games and my work will only run at a set speed I'm happy with my 590 ver mobo....

The base rule with tech is, if its on the store shelfs for sale its already obselete.
 
True, but I'm just wanting to make my new PC a little more furure proof. I won't be able to afford Quad core when it comes out, but I would like to be able to upgrade to Quad down the road without having to by a new motherboard and proccessor. The 680i looks like it will be able to do that for me. Like you.... I do not get into the overclocking much, but it will be used mainly for gaming.
 
My issue is timing won't have enough to finish my system untill tax refund
so ill take the restocking fee hit and get someother component that wont go obsolete like a case,powersupply,or some raptors.
 
That's what I did so far! Case, 2 320 gig seagates, PSU. And of course the two 7900 cards my friend gave me....which started this whole thing!! LOL I don't want to get anymore parts because I'm afraid by the time I am ready and install them, if something is wrong with one, it might be to late to just return it!
 
I have been lurking in this forum for some time. Putting together my dream machine as my P4 2.8 AGP is nearly 3 years old and is starting to show it's age.

I recently went to Las Vegas to attend some Vista workshops and was getting a feel for the performance and what type of problems customers could possibly encounter setting up. I provide technical support for a major computer manufacturer and was going there to learn and have some relaxation as well.

Someone at worked wished me well and hoped lady luck would be on my side. I replied, " I hope lady luck is in a hot tub" :lol:

As it turned out, lady luck left me all wet and I went on a winning spree (blackjack) and came home with a considerable winnings to pay for a new system. I have put together a system that I could use some input on.

CPU: Intel Core 2 duo 6600
Motherboard: Waiting for the 680i something (evga motherboard is what I'm leaning too)
Memory: Corsair XMS2 2GB ddr2 800
Hard drive(S): WD 2x 150GB Raptors - Raid O, Seagate 7200.10 320 GB for storage.
Graphics: 2x 7900 GTO"S
Sound: X-FI Xtremegamer
Speakers: Z-5500 Logitech 5.1 ( I have
Keyboard: Microsoft ergonomic 4000
Mouse: Logitech G-5
Case: Lian li aluminum case. This has 2 80mm fans in front, 2 rear and one on top...so excellent airflow.

Currently have a gateway fpd2185w monitor.

I still have a few questions that I'm asking for additional help on.

1. I elected to go with a 6600 cpu as the difference to next level 6700 is too costly imo. What cooler would you put on this? (I might overclock it)If cost come down in a month I may go for 6700
2. I believe a 550w power supply would be good for this configuration. I did not list a burner as I will be moving my still new optical drive over from old system.
3. Still looking for a nice backup battery system to protect this. Any ideas?

Appreciate any and all help on this.
Thank you

Blewstar
 
Well, it seems a lot of us are creating similar machines.. I'm going with e6600, 7950gt (another for sli later), Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800, probably the 680 mobo (depends on price), XClio A380 case (it has 2 x 22cm fans, one front and one on the side, plus optional 120mm fan for back exhaust), and Western Digital 250 or 300gig Sata hard drive (a second later for Raid 1).

For sound, I'm betting the on-board or w/e comes with the 680 will be good enough for me. As for the psu, I got the 600watt Ultra X-Finity psu (has SLi support). That should be plenty with fans and all. And for the hsf, I decided to go with the Thermalright Ultra-120 (you can find here), or you could go big and bad with the Vigor Monsoon II (here). Following up with a few reviews, it seems like the peltier has finally been done right. The controller should make sure that the cpu temp never falls below ambient air temp, but still stay within 1-3 degrees of it for max performance. I have never taken the time to figure out why Lian Lee's are so expensive and sought after, but having larger fans means that they can run at lower (quieter) speeds and still pull more air than many smaller ones. That's why I went with the A380; besides that, I'm also going to cut out a blow hole to fit another 120mm fan up top.

EDIT: As for the battery back up, I work at CompUSA and I know ACR (or is it ACS?) makes some that can last up an hour! I think one went as far as 360 minutes also. But those are gargantuine bohemoths!

**Off topic, but read at your leisure**

I was wondering, what it you built some kind of refrigeration device that could be attatched to the top of your case and have pipes running through the inside of the case (at the top, duh). The cold air produced by the pipes will descend while hot air escapes via a small 80mm fan in the back. The entire case would be sealed, either by metal welds or weather stripping keeping the temperature inside the case completely locked in from the outside air temperature. Assuming this could be arranged, achieving temperatures below freezing (around -10 to -20) would be easy and not cause condensation on any of the computer parts. Condensation may appear on the outside, but I certainly wouldn't care. Just a neat thought and was wondering if maybe it has already been done. The closest and easiest way to try this out would be fitting a computer inside a small refrigerator (the kind most college students get for a dorm room) and see if any condensation builds up. The only drawback I thought of this idea was that if too much heat was accumulated in the "case," then it would start to fog up and eventually start to create iceicles. Which would be funny to see, but not in your own case, lol. And that brings me to my next thought; with build up on your mobo, some parts will likely get too hot to effectively cool and melt down the ice and well.. we know where that leads. I guess even more challenging that building a case like that, would be to find a suitable temperature range to keep it cooled at.
 
**Off topic, but read at your leisure**

I was wondering, what it you built some kind of refrigeration device that could be attatched to the top of your case and have pipes running through the inside of the case (at the top, duh). The cold air produced by the pipes will descend while hot air escapes via a small 80mm fan in the back. The entire case would be sealed, either by metal welds or weather stripping keeping the temperature inside the case completely locked in from the outside air temperature. Assuming this could be arranged, achieving temperatures below freezing (around -10 to -20) would be easy and not cause condensation on any of the computer parts. Condensation may appear on the outside, but I certainly wouldn't care. Just a neat thought and was wondering if maybe it has already been done. The closest and easiest way to try this out would be fitting a computer inside a small refrigerator (the kind most college students get for a dorm room) and see if any condensation builds up. The only drawback I thought of this idea was that if too much heat was accumulated in the "case," then it would start to fog up and eventually start to create iceicles. Which would be funny to see, but not in your own case, lol. And that brings me to my next thought; with build up on your mobo, some parts will likely get too hot to effectively cool and melt down the ice and well.. we know where that leads. I guess even more challenging that building a case like that, would be to find a suitable temperature range to keep it cooled at.

Im pretty sure you would have massive problems with condensation, problems that you couldnt deal with, even with a dehumidifier, its just not probable. ZZZZZAAAAAAPPPPPP!!!! what the FUC|< was that? oh $hit its on fire!!!! ROFL
 
I'm having some trouble finding the 7900 GTO's at the price they were when they came out. Newegg and ZZF had them for about 260, but they are all out of stock. I have looked around at other places, and they want 310-320 for 'em.

I know this is a limited card, but does anybody know of a place that I can get the card without the increased price? I'm looking for 240-270.