[SOLVED] Problem with GPU ?

[YVS123]

Hello, I need help with my GPU

when I turn my PC on ( using gpu as graphics ), it POSTs with the beep pattern 4-2-3-3 and my PC does not turn on. When I tried to switch to my cpu, it turned on with no problems.
What do you think is the problem and how do you think I can solve it? Need help ASAP, Thanks!!

ps. I already tried;
-swapping ram sticks
-reseating everything
-clearing CMOS
-Swapping out PSU

What I haven't tried yet
swapping out GPU ( since I dont have any spare ones)

I also tried updating my GPU's drivers but I can't because the PC does not turn on if it's power is plugged (also POSTs with 4-2-3-3 pattern)


I am using
NEC motherboard ms9666 ver.012
CPU: intel core i3 540
GPU: AMD radeon hd 7850
SSD: walram 120gb

other components are working and seems to have no issues at all

ADD: I only put my PC to sleep for about 30 mins to 1 hour. When I returned, this happened

 

[rgd1101]

brand and model of the psu?

 

[YVS123]

brand and model of the psu?

it's a great wall GW-500PW
ik it's bad but the pc worked for 2 years using this psu. the problem just happened randomly. waht doyou think could have happened?

 

[DSzymborski]

it's a great wall GW-500PW
ik it's bad but the pc worked for 2 years using this psu. the problem just happened randomly. waht doyou think could have happened?

A bad PSU can go at any time and take components with it. Great Wall has the capacity to make non-junk PSUs, but this isn't one of them.

The PSU will need to be ruled out to diagnose any further. While it sucks to have to replace a PSU after just two years, cheap PSUs are very expensive; it's much cheaper to buy an excellent one once a decade rather than three-to-five low-quality PSUs over the same time period while risking other components.

 

[YVS123]

A bad PSU can go at any time and take components with it. Great Wall has the capacity to make non-junk PSUs, but this isn't one of them.

The PSU will need to be ruled out to diagnose any further. While it sucks to have to replace a PSU after just two years, cheap PSUs are very expensive; it's much cheaper to buy an excellent one once a decade rather than three-to-five low-quality PSUs over the same time period while risking other components.

thanks for this, Imma try to switch it out right away to check since I have another PSU. Hope it works

edit: it didnot work and problem still persists

 

[YVS123]

A bad PSU can go at any time and take components with it. Great Wall has the capacity to make non-junk PSUs, but this isn't one of them.

The PSU will need to be ruled out to diagnose any further. While it sucks to have to replace a PSU after just two years, cheap PSUs are very expensive; it's much cheaper to buy an excellent one once a decade rather than three-to-five low-quality PSUs over the same time period while risking other components.

I already tried using another psu but the outcome is still the same. Still wont boot with the GPU plugged with the POST code ( 4 2 3 3)

 

[rgd1101]

what is this new psu brand and model?

 

[YVS123]

what is this new psu brand and model?

dont worry about the PSU, I already tsted out my PSU and swapped with another one, same problem happened

 

[Murissokah]

Do you have a manual for that motherboard? It would be useful to know what that beeping pattern relates to. Only thing I could find for that code is a Phoenix Bios manual that says 4-2-3-3 means "Extended Block Move", implying a problem with memory mapping on the VGA.

You could try changing BIOS settings for the VGA, like disabling onboard grapphics. I know, you'll be locked out if it fails, but you can always clear CMOS to undo this. Other than that I think you'll have to test that VGA in a different PC (which you might not have around, in which case maybe reach out to someone who can offer a PC for testing).

 

[DSzymborski]

dont worry about the PSU, I already tsted out my PSU and swapped with another one, same problem happened

These questions are asked for specific reasons. What was the PSU you swapped in and can you share the data readouts from the PSU test?

 

[YVS123]

Do you have a manual for that motherboard? It would be useful to know what that beeping pattern relates to. Only thing I could find for that code is a Phoenix Bios manual that says 4-2-3-3 means "Extended Block Move", implying a problem with memory mapping on the VGA.

You could try changing BIOS settings for the VGA, like disabling onboard grapphics. I know, you'll be locked out if it fails, but you can always clear CMOS to undo this. Other than that I think you'll have to test that VGA in a different PC (which you might not have around, in which case maybe reach out to someone who can offer a PC for testing).

No I dont have any manual, but by VGA did you mean the graphics card? Im gonna try it on my cousins pc later to check and sadly, I think my motherboard does not have the BIOS settings to change what you are suggessting

edit: I could not test my gpu on another pc because that pc didnt have the right psu for my gpu, I still dont know what the problem is

 

[YVS123]

These questions are asked for specific reasons. What was the PSU you swapped in and can you share the data readouts from the PSU test?

ok my bad hehe, my original PSU was a great wall GW-500PW
and the one I swapped was an Inplay GS250BK. I'm quite sure that my psu isnt the problem here tho because after testing everything, I think I narrowed the problem down to either my motherboard's PCIE slot or my GPU might be broken

 

[Murissokah]

No I dont have any manual, but by VGA did you mean the graphics card? Im gonna try it on my cousins pc later to check and sadly, I think my motherboard does not have the BIOS settings to change what you are suggessting

Yes, that's what I meant.

 

[YVS123]

Yes, that's what I meant.

sadly I do not have any spare to try or any other pc to try it on, what do u suggest I should do? since you said it is a problem with memory mapping, is it the motherboard that's causing this because it does not read the GPU? or is the GPU broken?

 

[Colif]

if PC works fine off IGPU but won't boot when GPU in, maybe its the GPU

I would test GPU in another PC and see if it works.

 

[DSzymborski]

ok my bad hehe, my original PSU was a great wall GW-500PW
and the one I swapped was an Inplay GS250BK. I'm quite sure that my psu isnt the problem here tho because after testing everything, I think I narrowed the problem down to either my motherboard's PCIE slot or my GPU might be broken

Unfortunately, that's not a real test. You somehow found a PSU that was far worse. That PSU is only rated for 108 watts of +12V power.

This actually may be the worst PSU I have ever seen.

That you actually connected this to a computer with a GPU indicates that you need to take this PC to a shop rather than trying to diagnose this yourself. I can offer no additional assistance unless I'm 100% sure that you're not the one handling the components, and I don't know how I could be.

You're very fortunate you didn't destroy your PC or start a small fire in your house.

 

[Murissokah]

sadly I do not have any spare to try or any other pc to try it on, what do u suggest I should do? since you said it is a problem with memory mapping, is it the motherboard that's causing this because it does not read the GPU? or is the GPU broken?

It's more likely to be the GPU than the Motherboard.

Just a question, will your pc not boot if your GPU is broken?
ADD: I only put my PC to sleep for about 30 mins to 1 hour. When I returned, this happened

Yes, a discrete GPU failure can prevent the PC from booting even if it has an integrated GPU. It depends on the failure. If the GPU is entirely dead, it might simply not be detected and the PC may continue to boot. But if the GPU itself is working and some component in the graphics card is bad (like one memory chip), the PC will try to use the GPU and fail when the component is used, halting the boot process.

 

[YVS123]

Unfortunately, that's not a real test. You somehow found a PSU that was far worse. That PSU is only rated for 108 watts of +12V power.

This actually may be the worst PSU I have ever seen.

That you actually connected this to a computer with a GPU indicates that you need to take this PC to a shop rather than trying to diagnose this yourself. I can offer no additional assistance unless I'm 100% sure that you're not the one handling the components, and I don't know how I could be.

You're very fortunate you didn't destroy your PC or start a small fire in your house.

yes I know it's a bad one, but I have been using this for months before and it's a working one. Imma switch back to my old psu tho because that was the better one

 

[YVS123]

It's more likely to be the GPU than the Motherboard.



Yes, a discrete GPU failure can prevent the PC from booting even if it has an integrated GPU. It depends on the failure. If the GPU is entirely dead, it might simply not be detected and the PC may continue to boot. But if the GPU itself is working and some component in the graphics card is bad (like one memory chip), the PC will try to use the GPU and fail when the component is used, halting the boot process.

Thanks for this, Tho I have researched this problem and I have seen on other sites that this problem indicates a conflict between a gpu and and igpu, 4233 beep indicates an extended block move error, which means that the system is having trouble analyzing the two so it won't boot up. Might be the motherboard having the problem right? because the others fixed their problem by swapping gpus off other computers/ updating their bios which I cant do cause my motherboard suks

 

[YVS123]

if PC works fine off IGPU but won't boot when GPU in, maybe its the GPU

I would test GPU in another PC and see if it works.

sadly, I don't have any other PC that I can test it with

 

[DSzymborski]

yes I know it's a bad one, but I have been using this for months before and it's a working one. Imma switch back to my old psu tho because that was the better one

"Working" doesn't mean simply runs. It means runs and also isn't slowly damaging/risking your components with poor voltage regulation, electronic ripple, poorly configured safeties, etc.

As I said above, that you think this is a perfectly normal PSU to run indicates that it's time to bring your PC to a competent shop, unless you want to end up having to buy an entire new PC.

 

[YVS123]

"Working" doesn't mean simply runs. It means runs and also isn't slowly damaging/risking your components with poor voltage regulation, electronic ripple, poorly configured safeties, etc.

As I said above, that you think this is a perfectly normal PSU to run indicates that it's time to bring your PC to a competent shop, unless you want to end up having to buy an entire new PC.

I undderstand, but pls mind that this PSU was only used for testing, the other one was the one I was using so I know that even tho bad, PSU is not the problem here

 

[rgd1101]

test the gpu on another system?
test with another motherboard? another cpu?

 

[logainofhades]

Even a lowly EVGA BR, would be vastly superior, to either of those PSU's. I have had poor quality PSU's kill hardware before. I would not be surprised if that is why your GPU is dead. Have you tried removing the card, and connecting to your IGP, via the motherboard?

 

[YVS123]

test the gpu on another system?
test with another motherboard? another cpu?

Unfortunately, I cant test another gpu on my system but I bought another motherboard with CPU so imma test it on "another system" and check if my motherboard really is the problem because it is a NEC motherboard and it's pretty old and doesn't have any BIOS updates