The ugly truth about Windows 10

[Pr0tEN]

Unstable
Windows 10 is poorly programmed,a mix of source codes from Windows 8 and Windows 7 + a few changes and that's Windows 10,I have tested a lot of Operating systems,From Windows 95 to the latest version of 10,complex software that i used in Windows 7 didn't work at all with Windows 10,
I have experiecnced a lot of weird bugs and problems,from start menu crashes,Windows Store crashes,and installed software that suddenly do not run.
Complex simulations and emulations won't even start.
It also effects games,and the most embarssing thing is the a game from Microsoft themselves crashes because of Windows 10...
and it's Quantum Break:
https://www.vg247.com/2016/04/29/quantum-break-pc-update/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/quantum-break-pc-crash-fix-requires-microsoft-to-u/1100-6439332/
http://community.remedygames.com/forum/games/quantum-break/windows-10-help-issues/262397-display-driver-crash
http://betanews.com/2015/09/15/windows-10-is-shaping-up-to-be-the-most-unstable-release-since-millennium-edition-me/


Windows 10 doesn't care about me
from forcing me to have useless software,to send my data to the microsoft servers for the use of ads,
That data worth money and microsoft just take it from you,with the opearting system you have paid for.
I used Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit which is not targeted from the avearge user,
It has the most features,even more than the pro version and still has the useless software and one drive that in normal ways you can't delete it.
and the updates just do whatever they want...


Conclusion
Windows 10 the most unstable OS i have ever seen,even Windows Vista's code was much better.
I spent more time on fixing problems than using the OS.
After removing all the junk and spying with DWS(http://dws.wzor.net/) The system used less than 1GB of ram on idle,no internet usage with DWS on idle,no stupid pop ups.
even after DWS and disabling manually windows update,I had a problem with the UI...
There are 2 things drom everything- 2 control panels (Settings and Control Panel),2 Music players (Groove music player and Windows media Player)...
Why not having one control panel for everything?,Why all of this mess and confusion?
Why forcing users to use "One drive" and other useless things the uses the system's resources?
I use Windows 7 on all my computers and dual boot with Windows 10 on my main computer for DX12 games only...
I bought almost evey Windows version since Windows 95,
I own: 95,98,XP Proffesional,Vista Home Premium,7 Ultimate,I tested Windows 10 Enterprise in the lab of my work place.
Windows 7 was very stable even from it's early versions,I decided to use the RC version in my main computer until the RT version is released.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Nah I just stick with IE and FF. I just never liked Chrome. Not sure why. Might be due to how I have been seeing Google in recent years. Not a paranoid thing I just feel that their interests lie in different areas than when they started.

 

[Colif]

IE was better than Netscape. Both of them sucked but only cause the web was really basic back in 1998.

IE gets residual hate from its dominant years of IE6, its been on decline ever since but its trendy to hate on IE so people still do. Its like hating on Win 10 for spying on us and yet using Apple or Google services on mobile which do exact same things. Hating on Microsoft is just accepted because they are evil... erm, how?

I have used most of the big windows based browsers and they all pretty much the same. I only use chrome now cause it works with my add ons, not because its more amazing than the others in any way. Edge & Chrome are about same load sizes, only difference being all my add ons now.. once Edge lets me use them, I will test it out and see if it maintains any of its load speed. They all have small differences that made them useful.

I use Firefox to download desktop wallpapers as it (unlike chrome) allows me to right click image and set as wallpaper, I use Firefox to talk on an IRC channel as EDGE won't let me copy/paste links into it... but I generally use Chrome for everything else. I used to use Opera for its features not available on other browsers but its now using a variant of the chrome engine now and I lost interest once they got sold earlier this year.

 

[Erik DeSart]

I've used windows since about 1986. It's always been a work in progress.

That said, I too was very happy with 7. I finally had it tuned for me. (That's the nature of pc's, there is no one ring to rule them all.) I however decided I would eventually make the leap for two reasons. One, I have a beast of a machine that I built almost two years ago but it's definitely new enough to benefit from the newer drivers, dll's, etc. Two, DX12. I'm a gamer. It may not be ready for prime time right now but a year from now you won't be able to play new games on a pc without it.

So, I started testing the builds. I sure as hell wasn't going to pay for another license since I just bought windows 7 in 2014. I tried, it failed. I tried again, it failed. I would give it a shot every couple of months. I wanted to make it work while the upgrade was free.

This year it finally stuck. They had fixed whatever problems that had pertained to me. I've been using it for about 4 months. Each upgrade is better. I'm using less overhead and crashes are very very rare. From my perspective it's more solid that what I was using a year ago.

Only a couple of small programs that I used didn't migrate well and most have since updated. I recommend to most users to bite the bullet and get it done. Especially if you are a gamer or want your phone to integrate with your pc os. If my computer wasn't as new as it is I think I would have stuck with 7. I don't use a cell phone right now.

For users contemplating the switch: You should download the media. You can burn it to a dvd. Install it once and activate it and if you don't like it or have problems then downgrade. Unless I'm mistaken your license should then be good and you can upgrade in the future if you decide to. I didn't see this option previously and haven't confirmed it works but I did burn the media when I was trying it out and when I wanted to test it again I just popped in the dvd and let it download the newest build.

Don't flame the guy. He's just sharing his experience.

Best of luck.

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I'll post my specs since it would be relevant in this case for those of you making decisions based on peoples experiences.

Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell Quad-Core 3.4GHz LGA 1150 : OC'd to 4.0GHz
ASRock Z97 Extreme4 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS ROG STRIKER-GTX760-P-4GD5 G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 760 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2666 (PC3 21300) : x2 = 16GB
SanDisk Ultra Plus SDSSDHP-256G-G25 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

There's lots more of course but those are the relevant specs.

 

[Onus]

I have mostly gone to Win10. I have not had any notable problems. Work still uses Windows 7, and that works fine there too.
Chrome is not allowed at work, due to its data collection and tracking. I support a DOE facility, so if that's their attitude about Chrome, it's good enough for me; I don't use it. Firefox with AdBlock+, NoScript, and Lazarus (I may have 1-2 others) works just fine for me.

 

[USAFRet]

Of my 5 main house PC's, all currently on 10.
1 of them has been 10 since day one of the Tech Preview.
Wide variety of hardware, from a low end 2009 Tosh Celeron laptop, to a reasonably current i5, to a tiny Asus Transformer.

Exactly zero BSODs.

 

[Colif]

Only bsod i seen were either old drivers or self inflicted. the usual variety.

 

[okcnaline]

Only BSOD I ever see was CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED (just randomly from newly installed OS) and MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (too much RAM used). So it's pretty much bugless.

 

[Colif]

Win 10 gets blamed for BSOD by people who haven't had to change drivers in several years and then blame Windows for all the problems caused by the new OS expecting them to upgrade them more often than the first time they got the hardware. It could also be cause newer software asks more of a pc than a 9 year old one does... but its not like vista, most computers have at least a dual core processor now so the hardware required to run it is no longer a barrier to most. Win 10 runs fine (well, almost) on my mums 8 year old Dell. Drivers for the hardware are the barriers now as making an OS that can run on 9 year old computers just shows the gap that most hardware makers leave... very few 9 year old motherboards still get win 10 drivers

They need to work on the driver database so it has the most current drivers for the hardware but I guess its a bit much expecting that from Microsoft when often the motherboard makers haven't done it either.

 

[ex_bubblehead]

They need to work on the driver database so it has the most current drivers for the hardware but I guess its a bit much expecting that from Microsoft when often the motherboard makers haven't done it either.

Microsoft doesn't write the drivers. All of the drivers included with Windows are submitted by the various hardware manufacturers and are merely tested and signed by Microsoft. They are basic function only drivers, no bells & whistles.

 

[captaincharisma]

Win 10 gets blamed for BSOD by people who haven't had to change drivers in several years and then blame Windows for all the problems caused by the new OS expecting them to upgrade them more often than the first time they got the hardware. It could also be cause newer software asks more of a pc than a 9 year old one does... but its not like vista, most computers have at least a dual core processor now so the hardware required to run it is no longer a barrier to most. Win 10 runs fine (well, almost) on my mums 8 year old Dell. Drivers for the hardware are the barriers now as making an OS that can run on 9 year old computers just shows the gap that most hardware makers leave... very few 9 year old motherboards still get win 10 drivers

They need to work on the driver database so it has the most current drivers for the hardware but I guess its a bit much expecting that from Microsoft when often the motherboard makers haven't done it either.

its not just the motherboard makers either. sometimes they have to wait to get drivers directly from the manufacturer of the chips and controllers they use on their motherboards. like the integrated audio chip or RAID controller

 

[consptheory77]

I have Windows 10 but in my experience it's not any significant improvement upon Windows 7 or Windows 8. Somewhere in my things I have a copy of a column by John Dvorak in which he lists about 10 simple problems that have never been fixed since...I think he might have started with 3.1 but let's say just from the time of XP, which also everyone seems to like, and still can run software that "modern" Windows can't. Bill Gates is a genius? Maybe, but he spent too much time counting his employees' automobiles and hardly any time on fixing things with Windows that were obvious and easy to fix.