The ugly truth about Windows 10

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Unstable
Windows 10 is poorly programmed,a mix of source codes from Windows 8 and Windows 7 + a few changes and that's Windows 10,I have tested a lot of Operating systems,From Windows 95 to the latest version of 10,complex software that i used in Windows 7 didn't work at all with Windows 10,
I have experiecnced a lot of weird bugs and problems,from start menu crashes,Windows Store crashes,and installed software that suddenly do not run.
Complex simulations and emulations won't even start.
It also effects games,and the most embarssing thing is the a game from Microsoft themselves crashes because of Windows 10...
and it's Quantum Break:
https://www.vg247.com/2016/04/29/quantum-break-pc-update/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/quantum-break-pc-crash-fix-requires-microsoft-to-u/1100-6439332/
http://community.remedygames.com/forum/games/quantum-break/windows-10-help-issues/262397-display-driver-crash
http://betanews.com/2015/09/15/windows-10-is-shaping-up-to-be-the-most-unstable-release-since-millennium-edition-me/


Windows 10 doesn't care about me
from forcing me to have useless software,to send my data to the microsoft servers for the use of ads,
That data worth money and microsoft just take it from you,with the opearting system you have paid for.
I used Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit which is not targeted from the avearge user,
It has the most features,even more than the pro version and still has the useless software and one drive that in normal ways you can't delete it.
and the updates just do whatever they want...


Conclusion
Windows 10 the most unstable OS i have ever seen,even Windows Vista's code was much better.
I spent more time on fixing problems than using the OS.
After removing all the junk and spying with DWS(http://dws.wzor.net/) The system used less than 1GB of ram on idle,no internet usage with DWS on idle,no stupid pop ups.
even after DWS and disabling manually windows update,I had a problem with the UI...
There are 2 things drom everything- 2 control panels (Settings and Control Panel),2 Music players (Groove music player and Windows media Player)...
Why not having one control panel for everything?,Why all of this mess and confusion?
Why forcing users to use "One drive" and other useless things the uses the system's resources?
I use Windows 7 on all my computers and dual boot with Windows 10 on my main computer for DX12 games only...
I bought almost evey Windows version since Windows 95,
I own: 95,98,XP Proffesional,Vista Home Premium,7 Ultimate,I tested Windows 10 Enterprise in the lab of my work place.
Windows 7 was very stable even from it's early versions,I decided to use the RC version in my main computer until the RT version is released.

 

[Hlsgsz]

I have not used IE or Edge ever, only Chrome. It is easy to choose fex Chrome for your preferred browser. BING is not a solution for anything, merely a poor copy of Google search engine.

Not really. It excells at video search, for example.

 

[weberdarren97]

That it does

 

[Arivesa]

I have not used IE or Edge ever, only Chrome. It is easy to choose fex Chrome for your preferred browser. BING is not a solution for anything, merely a poor copy of Google search engine.

Not really. It excells at video search, for example.

Havn't noticed that in any way. Maybe we search for different things? Or maybe something else limits your choises?

 

[weberdarren97]

I think something's limiting your spelling of the word "choices"

Just kidding

 

[Arivesa]

I think something's limiting your spelling of the word "choices"

Just kidding

Nitpicker, my native language is finnish, try to write an udestandable sentence in that. No can do, I presume.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I rarely search for video, but in general I find Bing searches to be pretty sub-par. The main time I used Bing was accidently, when I was at school and typed a search into the address bar, forgetting that Bing was set as the default search engine. I would then skim the results, think to myself how irrelevant and useless they were, and then realize I had done a Bing search. I would then type the exact same search into Google and inevitably find what I wanted in the first few results.

That being said, I find that Google has been slipping lately.

 

[Arivesa]

I rarely search for video, but in general I find Bing searches to be pretty sub-par. The main time I used Bing was accidently, when I was at school and typed a search into the address bar, forgetting that Bing was set as the default search engine. I would then skim the results, think to myself how irrelevant and useless they were, and then realize I had done a Bing search. I would then type the exact same search into Google and inevitably find what I wanted in the first few results.

That being said, I find that Google has been slipping lately.

'Cause you didn't use it in the first place? I havn't detected any change in Chrome, at least not for worse.

 

[Max_x2]

I've been an IT consultant since before "IT" was a well used acronym. I've worked with and used every version of DOS and Windows. In my humble opinion Windows 10 is a fine system and most but not all my customers are happy with the product. I have noticed that most of the Windows 7 and 8 upgrades (with existing user software) work fine. On occasion I need to update printer and video drivers. I will say that doing a clean install on an older system, then installing some older user software has caused problems.

Now, I typically do a clean install with Windows 7 add the user software , then do the Windows 10 upgrade.

That would've been a great way to do it before 1151. But you can use a Win7 key with Win10 since then. I see three reasons why doing a clean install of Win10 (with Win7 key) would be a better option:
1- Your clients would save money.
2- You would save yourself some time.
3- Some upgrades don't go as smooth as they should, so you'd save yourself even more time.

#3 happened on my very own machine only, mind you. It took something like 2-3 hours on a 4670k with 8GB RAM and an SSD. Took about 30 minutes on another computer I've upgraded with comparable specs.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Windows 10 is a good OS, the only problem with it is Edge. Memory leak

maybe so, but for some reason Google Chrome is now fubar'd for me, especially with Youtube video. I've reinstalled Chrome, used the cleanup utility they provide, got rid of all extensions, even tried the Beta version and it's still not working.

I tried Firefox and it's really sluggish.

EDGE is the only browser working perfectly for me. Weird.

(I'm also annoyed that BING is forced now for Cortona. I find BING laughably useless compared to Google. I was even thinking of getting a Windows phone, but they dropped that so it's a non-issue now.)

You are annoyed that Microsofts product uses its product to deliver the services?

I understand it. Apple does the same with Siri, they control results they don't like hence why Siri says the phone you are holding is the best phone if you ask. Google also puts Google as the primary search on Android and I don't think you can change that.

That said, I am used to Google but I do like some features that Bing has search wise. SO far if I just put a tracking number in Bing it will return not only a link to the proper company but also tracking information, haven't had Google do that yet.

 

[TJ Hooker]

'Cause you didn't use it in the first place? I havn't detected any change in Chrome, at least not for worse.

I'm not sure what you mean by "'Cause you didn't use it in the first place?"

I'm not saying that google searches have gotten significantly worse or anything. It just seems like I can't find what I'm looking for quite as easily as I used to. Maybe my google-fu is just getting weaker.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

 

[CountMike]

You don't have to change search engine. It's enough to open www.google com and bookmark it.

 

[USAFRet]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

These are the people, that will open their browser, and put in the Search Bar...

www.espn.com

Not the address bar...the search bar.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

These are the people, that will open their browser, and put in the Search Bar...

www.espn.com

Not the address bar...the search bar.

I know many people that do that. Its like nails across a chalkboard.....

But theres worse......when they type www.google.com in the search bar

 

[CountMike]

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

 

[captaincharisma]

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

hehe i'll top you on that one. there are people who will refuse to install any other web browsers on their computer because it already has a version of IE or edge pre-installed no matter how many issues they have with them

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

These are the people, that will open their browser, and put in the Search Bar...

www.espn.com

Not the address bar...the search bar.

Ahh, yeah, that drives me nuts! What drives me more nuts is that some people still type www when it's really just an alias of the domain itself and an extra 4 letters to type.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

I haven't seen anything about Bing that Google does in a superior way. In fact one thing Bing did first was to preview the images in the same search so you didn't have to keep going back.

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

hehe i'll top you on that one. there are people who will refuse to install any other web browsers on their computer because it already has a version of IE or edge pre-installed no matter how many issues they have with them

I don't know if that number is as large as it used to be though. In fact didn't Firefox just surpass IE in market share?

I personally don't get the hate for IE now and once Edge finally gets extensions it can be a good browser. I still use FF for some things though, some sites seem to work better on it, but man I will never use Chrome. Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

 

[captaincharisma]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

I haven't seen anything about Bing that Google does in a superior way. In fact one thing Bing did first was to preview the images in the same search so you didn't have to keep going back.

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

hehe i'll top you on that one. there are people who will refuse to install any other web browsers on their computer because it already has a version of IE or edge pre-installed no matter how many issues they have with them

I don't know if that number is as large as it used to be though. In fact didn't Firefox just surpass IE in market share?

I personally don't get the hate for IE now and once Edge finally gets extensions it can be a good browser. I still use FF for some things though, some sites seem to work better on it, but man I will never use Chrome. Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

considering MS is forcing you to use BING in Edge i highly doubt anyone will continue to use it other then a way to download their browser of choice

 

[Hlsgsz]

Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

How do you figure?

 

[jimmysmitty]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

I haven't seen anything about Bing that Google does in a superior way. In fact one thing Bing did first was to preview the images in the same search so you didn't have to keep going back.

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

hehe i'll top you on that one. there are people who will refuse to install any other web browsers on their computer because it already has a version of IE or edge pre-installed no matter how many issues they have with them

I don't know if that number is as large as it used to be though. In fact didn't Firefox just surpass IE in market share?

I personally don't get the hate for IE now and once Edge finally gets extensions it can be a good browser. I still use FF for some things though, some sites seem to work better on it, but man I will never use Chrome. Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

considering MS is forcing you to use BING in Edge i highly doubt anyone will continue to use it other then a way to download their browser of choice

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge

You really should research before making claims. That is even an official Microsoft how to, not one from some random tech site. The only thing being forced is Cortana, which who cares really. If you do a side by side search the results are so similar, mainly because both search engines rely on click hits to pull up results (hence why when you search for Apple you don't see anything for the fruit until almost page 6) so they are pretty similar in returns.

Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

How do you figure?

Webkit, like ActiveX, is designed to be an all in one. Problem is that if your browser cannot run Webkit it wont run the page properly, much like ActiveX.

The best solution is HTML5 and other open standards that every browser supports.

 

[Hlsgsz]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

I haven't seen anything about Bing that Google does in a superior way. In fact one thing Bing did first was to preview the images in the same search so you didn't have to keep going back.

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

hehe i'll top you on that one. there are people who will refuse to install any other web browsers on their computer because it already has a version of IE or edge pre-installed no matter how many issues they have with them

I don't know if that number is as large as it used to be though. In fact didn't Firefox just surpass IE in market share?

I personally don't get the hate for IE now and once Edge finally gets extensions it can be a good browser. I still use FF for some things though, some sites seem to work better on it, but man I will never use Chrome. Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

considering MS is forcing you to use BING in Edge i highly doubt anyone will continue to use it other then a way to download their browser of choice

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge

You really should research before making claims. That is even an official Microsoft how to, not one from some random tech site. The only thing being forced is Cortana, which who cares really. If you do a side by side search the results are so similar, mainly because both search engines rely on click hits to pull up results (hence why when you search for Apple you don't see anything for the fruit until almost page 6) so they are pretty similar in returns.

Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

How do you figure?

Webkit, like ActiveX, is designed to be an all in one. Problem is that if your browser cannot run Webkit it wont run the page properly, much like ActiveX.

The best solution is HTML5 and other open standards that every browser supports.

Webkit is a browser layout engine. And one that very much adheres to the W3C standards HTML5. So much so, that even Opera, who has always been the most standards compliant browser, adopted it.
The issue you are probably refering to is not to be blamed on Webkit itself or the browsers based on it. It's plain and simple bad development: some webdev, usually working on a mac and only testing in safari, uses a prefixed CSS property like -webkit-blahblah without also adding the mozilla and microsoft equivalent or, more importantly, adding teh standards compliant non-prefixed variant for future-proofing, so non-webkit browsers remain in the dark. Good developers do not do this, and teh tools can't be blamed for the failures of their users.
Chrome is a very good browser and the one i recommend to all "normal" people while, personally, i can't live without Firefoxes flexibility.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

I haven't seen anything about Bing that Google does in a superior way. In fact one thing Bing did first was to preview the images in the same search so you didn't have to keep going back.

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

hehe i'll top you on that one. there are people who will refuse to install any other web browsers on their computer because it already has a version of IE or edge pre-installed no matter how many issues they have with them

I don't know if that number is as large as it used to be though. In fact didn't Firefox just surpass IE in market share?

I personally don't get the hate for IE now and once Edge finally gets extensions it can be a good browser. I still use FF for some things though, some sites seem to work better on it, but man I will never use Chrome. Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

considering MS is forcing you to use BING in Edge i highly doubt anyone will continue to use it other then a way to download their browser of choice

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge

You really should research before making claims. That is even an official Microsoft how to, not one from some random tech site. The only thing being forced is Cortana, which who cares really. If you do a side by side search the results are so similar, mainly because both search engines rely on click hits to pull up results (hence why when you search for Apple you don't see anything for the fruit until almost page 6) so they are pretty similar in returns.

Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

How do you figure?

Webkit, like ActiveX, is designed to be an all in one. Problem is that if your browser cannot run Webkit it wont run the page properly, much like ActiveX.

The best solution is HTML5 and other open standards that every browser supports.

Webkit is a browser layout engine. And one that very much adheres to the W3C standards HTML5. So much so, that even Opera, who has always been the most standards compliant browser, adopted it.
The issue you are probably refering to is not to be blamed on Webkit itself or the browsers based on it. It's plain and simple bad development: some webdev, usually working on a mac and only testing in safari, uses a prefixed CSS property like -webkit-blahblah without also adding the mozilla and microsoft equivalent or, more importantly, adding teh standards compliant non-prefixed variant for future-proofing, so non-webkit browsers remain in the dark. Good developers do not do this, and teh tools can't be blamed for the failures of their users.
Chrome is a very good browser and the one i recommend to all "normal" people while, personally, i can't live without Firefoxes flexibility.

That is my point though. Basically the developer needs to make sure support for other browsers is in there otherwise webkit is the only way for it to work properly.

Differing opinions. I wont touch Chrome for that and the fact that it is Google, they track people more than most since the majority of their money comes from ad revenue.

 

[captaincharisma]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

I haven't seen anything about Bing that Google does in a superior way. In fact one thing Bing did first was to preview the images in the same search so you didn't have to keep going back.

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

hehe i'll top you on that one. there are people who will refuse to install any other web browsers on their computer because it already has a version of IE or edge pre-installed no matter how many issues they have with them

I don't know if that number is as large as it used to be though. In fact didn't Firefox just surpass IE in market share?

I personally don't get the hate for IE now and once Edge finally gets extensions it can be a good browser. I still use FF for some things though, some sites seem to work better on it, but man I will never use Chrome. Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

considering MS is forcing you to use BING in Edge i highly doubt anyone will continue to use it other then a way to download their browser of choice

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge

You really should research before making claims. That is even an official Microsoft how to, not one from some random tech site. The only thing being forced is Cortana, which who cares really. If you do a side by side search the results are so similar, mainly because both search engines rely on click hits to pull up results (hence why when you search for Apple you don't see anything for the fruit until almost page 6) so they are pretty similar in returns.

Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

How do you figure?

Webkit, like ActiveX, is designed to be an all in one. Problem is that if your browser cannot run Webkit it wont run the page properly, much like ActiveX.

The best solution is HTML5 and other open standards that every browser supports.

Webkit is a browser layout engine. And one that very much adheres to the W3C standards HTML5. So much so, that even Opera, who has always been the most standards compliant browser, adopted it.
The issue you are probably refering to is not to be blamed on Webkit itself or the browsers based on it. It's plain and simple bad development: some webdev, usually working on a mac and only testing in safari, uses a prefixed CSS property like -webkit-blahblah without also adding the mozilla and microsoft equivalent or, more importantly, adding teh standards compliant non-prefixed variant for future-proofing, so non-webkit browsers remain in the dark. Good developers do not do this, and teh tools can't be blamed for the failures of their users.
Chrome is a very good browser and the one i recommend to all "normal" people while, personally, i can't live without Firefoxes flexibility.

That is my point though. Basically the developer needs to make sure support for other browsers is in there otherwise webkit is the only way for it to work properly.

Differing opinions. I wont touch Chrome for that and the fact that it is Google, they track people more than most since the majority of their money comes from ad revenue.

so how big is your tinfoil hat? lol jk

 

[Hlsgsz]

Bing is just awful. The only people who use Bing, I think, are non-tech-savvy people who don't know how to change the default search engine in their web browser.

I haven't seen anything about Bing that Google does in a superior way. In fact one thing Bing did first was to preview the images in the same search so you didn't have to keep going back.

I know few people like that, one calls Google search page "The internet" and even when he knows full address goes to search first never doing any bookmarking. Has book to write names of sites.

hehe i'll top you on that one. there are people who will refuse to install any other web browsers on their computer because it already has a version of IE or edge pre-installed no matter how many issues they have with them

I don't know if that number is as large as it used to be though. In fact didn't Firefox just surpass IE in market share?

I personally don't get the hate for IE now and once Edge finally gets extensions it can be a good browser. I still use FF for some things though, some sites seem to work better on it, but man I will never use Chrome. Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

considering MS is forcing you to use BING in Edge i highly doubt anyone will continue to use it other then a way to download their browser of choice

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge

You really should research before making claims. That is even an official Microsoft how to, not one from some random tech site. The only thing being forced is Cortana, which who cares really. If you do a side by side search the results are so similar, mainly because both search engines rely on click hits to pull up results (hence why when you search for Apple you don't see anything for the fruit until almost page 6) so they are pretty similar in returns.

Webkit is ActiveX all over again in my eyes.

How do you figure?

Webkit, like ActiveX, is designed to be an all in one. Problem is that if your browser cannot run Webkit it wont run the page properly, much like ActiveX.

The best solution is HTML5 and other open standards that every browser supports.

Webkit is a browser layout engine. And one that very much adheres to the W3C standards HTML5. So much so, that even Opera, who has always been the most standards compliant browser, adopted it.
The issue you are probably refering to is not to be blamed on Webkit itself or the browsers based on it. It's plain and simple bad development: some webdev, usually working on a mac and only testing in safari, uses a prefixed CSS property like -webkit-blahblah without also adding the mozilla and microsoft equivalent or, more importantly, adding teh standards compliant non-prefixed variant for future-proofing, so non-webkit browsers remain in the dark. Good developers do not do this, and teh tools can't be blamed for the failures of their users.
Chrome is a very good browser and the one i recommend to all "normal" people while, personally, i can't live without Firefoxes flexibility.

That is my point though. Basically the developer needs to make sure support for other browsers is in there otherwise webkit is the only way for it to work properly.

Differing opinions. I wont touch Chrome for that and the fact that it is Google, they track people more than most since the majority of their money comes from ad revenue.

No, the developer just needs to adhere to the standards. Period. I am one so I would know.

I think you're beeing paranoid about Chrome. It doesn't track you. Doesntt need to. It just points you to www.google.com and the site does the tracking.. if you let it.
If you care about such things i recommend the following: Ghostery and Noscript addons. You can find them both for FF and Chrome.