Update on 4890...

[spathotan]

I wonder if my equal to the 275 GTX estimates were predicted right ( well i said 1 295 GTX GPU, so technically 1 275 )

Ditto on that. I also said earlier in this thread, there is a reason for that GTX 275, Nvidia knows ATI's arch better than we do, they know its limitations.

 

[L1qu1d]

PowerColor's HD 4890 listed

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12660&Itemid=1

 

[jennyh]

That's really quite poor. 850 core and 975 memory with a voltage increase is a total joke. I'd expect my 4870 to overclock higher than that with 1.3v.

 

[spathotan]

Lol....oh man

 

[SpinachEater]

That is true. My 4870 can run stable around 830 just by using the AMD OC tool. But...if the thing is stock 850 and can surpass 900 with a simple overclock....then it could get interesting.

Sort of like intel's tick tock strategy, I think this card will be a good window to the R800 series if this chip change is worth it. It will be a nice little boost in addition to a die shrink...hopefully it will help ATI keep up with NV.

 

[L1qu1d]

http://72.14.205.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardware/grafikkarten/ati/2009/maerz/erste_radeon_hd_4890_237_euro/&usg=ALkJrhhp3X1yITkYk0BSm9hoTxhX_UEJjA

 

[spathotan]

Price is absurd. I hope its not a 100% conversion to USD here(never is).

Also, considering this chip is already a extremely heavy overclocked 4870, I dont see this 4890 having much overhead, not to mention the pic has it using THE SAME REFERENCE GARBAGE COOLER from the 4870. There is already going to be an alleged rise in wattage/voltage over the 4870.

This might be one of the most inefficient GPUs ever put out.

 

[rangers]

^^no that has to go to the FX5800

 

[spathotan]

Lol....FX series....just lol.

 

[Nica Guy]

i agree on that, if the price is right on that website, this card is a complete failure..
only way i see it shining is if its made to replace the 4870 as the 216 replaced the normal 260 and the price goes down to 4870 1GB levels...
otherwise, its a much better choice to get a 4870 with a really good cooler for less and overclock it yourself...
but, we'll see... i cant wait for a review before launch...

 

[jennyh]

This is so hard to believe, it's easier to believe that ATI are simply pulling off another one of their top secret releases.

 

[spathotan]

Reviews will determine its fate, like usually. But this is a late show, so is the GTX 275. The market is already flooded with 4870 and GTX 260 users, not to mention all the 4850's and Crossfire/SLi rigs. And the price across 4850, 4870, GTX 260, GTX 280 and GTX 285 is already extremely tight and will only get worse with price drops.

Both the 4890 and GTX 275 really have no place in this market, at all. The only scenario I see playing out is ATI dropping the 4830 completely and putting the 4850 at $100, 4870 at $150, 4890 at $180. GTX 260 is already being phased out for the 260 216, that at $160, GTX 275 at $180, GTX 280 at $240 and GTX 285 at sub $300.

 

[boudy]

This is so hard to believe, it's easier to believe that ATI are simply pulling off another one of their top secret releases.

Yea, I think they are going to pull a "Houdini" on us. Change it all around, making the rumors get crushed along with the benchmarks from the 4870 .

 

[boudy]

wait a sec, just found this:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12532&Itemid=34
So its basically going to be a revision of the RV770?
If this article is true, then I would expect the 4890 to the 4870 to be somewhat like the GTX 260 Core 216 is to the GTX 260.....right?

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Its a new ASIC, so who knows? CCC core clocks are maxxed a 1Ghz, again, who knows? Pins are different than 4870, so who knows? And more than 3 sites have stated a different cooler as well, so who knows.

 

[spathotan]

http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/af/f8/1c/fbfdd205942d5d2abaa19ad62e467154.jpg

Guy on EVGA forums found that.

 

[Nica Guy]

cool, is it exactly the same as the 4870?

 

[boudy]

http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/af/f8/1c/fbfdd205942d5d2abaa19ad62e467154.jpg

Guy on EVGA forums found that.

What do you mean he "found" it? lol

cool, is it exactly the same as the 4870?

I doubt it. Especially since the core is a revision of the R770.
We will have to wait and see with this card, it could be good, and it could be bad, as jaydeejohn said "who knows"?

 

[wh3resmycar]

upon reading some web updates and news regarding this 4890, this might suck for those 4870 owners (like yours truly) who wants to get a new upgrade.

cant ATI do some oddball bus-width like the silly 444/320/192/384bit from nvidia? wish its architecturally possible (plausible). a 384bit 4870 can probably rape a 285.

(3600x384)/8 = gtx285 killer?

*sigh*

http://www.techpowerup.com/88463/ATI_Radeon_HD_4890_1_GB_GDDR5_in_Pretty_Pixels.html

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

One of the early rumors when the 4xxx series was released was a 1.2 multi on thwe shaders. Maybe they did it?
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12677&Itemid=1

 

[boredatcanon]

Improving the shaders sound more realistic than them just oc and releasing as a newer card. Ati has way more shaders than nvidia but operate slower, so if they improved there speed then that would easily give us that big performance bump that could put this card above gtx 280 levels....

 

[L1qu1d]

words are being thrown around again

 

[rawsteel]

They said "more efficient" shaders not More count. I think either they separated the clocks and the shaders work on bigger clock speed, or they somehow improved their performance

Either way we cant predict performance before actual benchmarks

 

[jennyh]

The more efficient shaders have been talked about for a long time with this. The question is, how "more efficient" are they gonna be.

 

[gamerk316]

As has been said, the card seems to have no place on the market right now...