Upgrading comp :-) advice please

[rzr09]

hi, this is my current system



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CPU Type: QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 965, 3416 MHz (17 x 201)
Motherboard Name: Asus M2N68 Plus (4 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 2 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN)
Motherboard Chipset: nVIDIA nForce 7025-630a, AMD K10
System Memory: 4096 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DIMM1: Kingston 9905316-132.A01LF 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400 MHz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)
DIMM2: 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400 MHz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)
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And im looking to upgrade to ddr3 with these parts

Kingston 4GB DDR3 1066MHz Memory Non-ECC CL7 1.5v

Kingston 2GB DDR3 1066MHz i5 Memory Module CL7 1.5V

Asrock N68C-S UCC GeForce 7025 Socket AM2+ VGA Out 6 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard

is this ok? would i see system performance improve

thanks

 

[geekapproved]

So you are going to buy a new motherboard, just so you can switch from ddr2 to ddr3?? lol

No you won't see any performance difference. Waste of money.

 

[sylmarils]

Better buy a SSD and you will see performance improvement (if you don't have allready one). The DDR3 compared to DDR2 gives ususally up to 20% more BW unless you whant to go higher i.e. 1600 to 2100 DDR3's and thus more expensive. You should consider DDR3 only if builing new system from scratch. Some DDR2's almost equal the lower end DDR3's in BW so much improvement it wouldn't be noticed in a day by day work unless youre doing intensive calculations. Hope that helps

 

[rzr09]

Well i'm a pc gamer im stuck i making my mind up. should i get a Logitech drvie force gt or new board n ram i think ddr 2 is bottle necking my current graphic is sapphire hd 5830 Xtreme

 

[compulsivebuilder]

RAM is almost certainly not your bottleneck. Changing RAM rarely makes more than a tiny difference, unless your problem is one of not having enough RAM. You have 4GB - that should be plenty.

DDR3 is specified with higher numbers than DDR 2 (eg: 1600MHz instead of 800MHz), but that doesn't make it twice as fast. Consider that your current RAM can do 4-4-4-12; typical 1600MHz RAM is 9-9-9-24.

I would suggest that you consider a graphics card upgrade if you are playing graphics-intensive games (the 5830 is not the fastest card available).

Try playing your games at lower resolution - do they play much faster? Then maybe the graphics card is the limiting factor. If they play at exactly the same speed, then maybe the CPU or RAM are limiting you.

 

[rzr09]

thanks for all you help? One last question would you spend the money on New mobo and more ram or would you buy a driving force GT wheel?? im in two minds what to do

 

[geekapproved]

thanks for all you help? One last question would you spend the money on New mobo and more ram or would you buy a driving force GT wheel?? im in two minds what to do

Are you not able to comprehend what we just told you? Cause your asking the same question again that we just answered.

 

[geekapproved]

Better buy a SSD and you will see performance improvement (if you don't have allready one). The DDR3 compared to DDR2 gives ususally up to 20% more BW unless you whant to go higher i.e. 1600 to 2100 DDR3's and thus more expensive. You should consider DDR3 only if builing new system from scratch. Some DDR2's almost equal the lower end DDR3's in BW so much improvement it wouldn't be noticed in a day by day work unless youre doing intensive calculations. Hope that helps

20% on a AMD system. NOT. More like 1%.

 

[sylmarils]

20% on a AMD system. NOT. More like 1%.

I stand corrected in the case of 444 timings considering clock to clock but as i was reading a while back its up to 20% bandwidth generally speaking and in reality testing is the best way to determine that, and the processor has a great weight in it as well. Anyway most games require graphics so i would go for that.
On the other hand DDR2 fast timing ram its all ready at its edge but a fast DDR3 might have lower timings but runs higher thus greater BW especially when OC the processor where DDR2 can be a bottleneck