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Nope, not really sensitive; I am just more articulate than you.
If you commented on it, then it must have offended your sensibilities. I know M$ is passe, but with the DRM HDCP power play I thought it was fitting.
The problem I have with it is that people that have very little knowledge of what Microsoft's actual goals are, regurgitate biased non-sensical articles like they are fact. It is one man's, clearly biased, opinion. If MS didn't support HDCP, then you wouldn't be legally playing HD content on your computers. HDCP isn't Microsoft specific; Microsoft simply implemented the standard so that it would be compatible with HD content. A lot of people use their computers as media centres, so if Microsoft didn't implement HDCP, those people wouldn't be able to play HD DVDs/BluRay.
Furthermore, since Microsoft sells the #1 OS, it has to cater to pressure from vendors and other standards bodies. Look at the anti-virus companies. Microsoft implements a closed kernel and the virus companies freakout because their software won't be as effective. Wow. So let's have a less secure system just so a company can sell us a generally crappy product. Self-serving interests are never good for the consumer. HDCP isn't Microsoft's baby.
The people "you guys" should be directing your energy and criticism at reside and work for Hollywood and the music industry. Those are the people that are slowly eroding your rights and freedoms. That is my point. You've misdirected your efforts - you need to go to the source. Microsoft gets such a bad reputation for the initiatives of others. Microsoft isn't perfect but it is far from the evil empire image that people make it out to be.
For the record: with Vista I've played MP3s ripped from CDs, downloaded movies and music from Bit Torrent (of which if it is good, I go out and buy it) and it all plays perfectly fine. DRM hasn't effected me yet.
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Nope, not really sensitive; I am just more articulate than you.
If you commented on it, then it must have offended your sensibilities. I know M$ is passe, but with the DRM HDCP power play I thought it was fitting.
The problem I have with it is that people that have very little knowledge of what Microsoft's actual goals are, regurgitate biased non-sensical articles like they are fact. It is one man's, clearly biased, opinion. If MS didn't support HDCP, then you wouldn't be legally playing HD content on your computers. HDCP isn't Microsoft specific; Microsoft simply implemented the standard so that it would be compatible with HD content. A lot of people use their computers as media centres, so if Microsoft didn't implement HDCP, those people wouldn't be able to play HD DVDs/BluRay.
Furthermore, since Microsoft sells the #1 OS, it has to cater to pressure from vendors and other standards bodies. Look at the anti-virus companies. Microsoft implements a closed kernel and the virus companies freakout because their software won't be as effective. Wow. So let's have a less secure system just so a company can sell us a generally crappy product. Self-serving interests are never good for the consumer. HDCP isn't Microsoft's baby.
The people "you guys" should be directing your energy and criticism at reside and work for Hollywood and the music industry. Those are the people that are slowly eroding your rights and freedoms. That is my point. You've misdirected your efforts - you need to go to the source. Microsoft gets such a bad reputation for the initiatives of others. Microsoft isn't perfect but it is far from the evil empire image that people make it out to be.
For the record: with Vista I've played MP3s ripped from CDs, downloaded movies and music from Bit Torrent (of which if it is good, I go out and buy it) and it all plays perfectly fine. DRM hasn't effected me yet.
Microsoft has to cater to the virus companies due to antitrust reasons. They are not obligated, in any way, to put HDCP in Vista. Being the #1 OS they surely don't need to bend to Hollywood. By the way I am infuriated with the MPAA and their DRM scheme, but that doesn't mean that Microsoft should get a pass, as though they were some kind of victim. How about if Microsoft puts HDCP in the media center edition and leave the rest of us alone. You believe Microsoft is an innocent victim, and that is your choice, no matter how naive. I prefer to believe that they are willing co-conspirators, and that they are conspiring for control and, ultimately, money. I don't even play movies or music on my PC so I'm not complaining because I personally will loose the ability to steal copyrighted media. I just don't want to pick up the tab for those that want to watch HD movies on their PC.
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That's the part I don't get. You aren't having to pay anything extra. Whether you watch HD movies or not on your PC doesn't change the cost of owning or running Vista. But I will agree with this: in light of the uproar, however misguided, Microsoft should give people the choice of if they want to have an HDCP-enabled kernel or not. If you don't play HD movies, you use the non-DRM kernel. Now, it isn't quite as simple as that, but it isn't a bad or unfeasible idea. It seems this would appeal to a lot of people as well.
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That's the part I don't get. You aren't having to pay anything extra. Whether you watch HD movies or not on your PC doesn't change the cost of owning or running Vista. But I will agree with this: in light of the uproar, however misguided, Microsoft should give people the choice of if they want to have an HDCP-enabled kernel or not. If you don't play HD movies, you use the non-DRM kernel. Now, it isn't quite as simple as that, but it isn't a bad or unfeasible idea. It seems this would appeal to a lot of people as well.
I agree, that would be the least that they could do. The costs that are associated with Vista are multi fold, not just the purchase of the OS. These costs are economic costs not just monetary. I am really not trying to be a prick when I ask you to read the article in my sig with an open mind. I know the article has a few holes in it, (nothings perfect) but it will give you some idea of the costs, related to Vista, that you ordinarily wouldn't think about. Costs that are incurred by the video card manufacturers in order to be HDCP compliant, which they must do in order to sell cards. Costs to the user in additional overhead of the OS, potential instability due to tilt bits, and the threat of revocation of drivers if they get hacked. This is just a taste of the potential costs associated with Vista DRM. Read the article and pretend that half of it is complete bull crap. The other half that is not BS sould be sufficient to give you cause for concern.
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