[SOLVED] What is the bottleneck in my system?

[OldHwOverclocker]

Hi.
I'd like to know what is bottlenecking my system. I play mostly Fortnite at 1440p resolution and I'm getting way lower fps than I expected. Task manager shows CPU usage at most 40% and no single core is used even close to 100%. GPU usage is 40-55%. Temperatures are not a problem on either the GPU or the CPU.
Specs:
ryzen 5 3600
gtx 1070 ti
16gb 3600 ram
asus tuf x570 mobo
550 psu

Thanks for any help.

 

[sizzling]

Can you run userbenchmark and share the public link to the results.

 

[rickypicky5]

What is the make and model of your PSU? 550 psu tells us very little.

 

[hotaru.hino]

I play mostly Fortnite at 1440p resolution and I'm getting way lower fps than I expected.

What are you expecting? Where are you basing this expectation on?

 

[geofelt]

There is always a limiting factor.
Usually cpu or gpu.
And not always at the same time.
Fortnite can only usefully use two cores.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fortnite-best-performance-benchmarks,5541-6.html

Windows will distribute load across available threads, so with 12 threads, you can't really tell how cpu limited you might be.

I do not know what your performance expectations are, nor what they should be.

But, you could try some experiments.


Run the cpu-z bench test and look at the single thread performance rating.
It should be about 515::
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/ptjz47
Much different, look into it.

Reduce your resolution and quality settings.
That will make the gpu loaf.
If your performance remains the same, you are likely cpu limited.
If performance improves much, look into a stronger graphics card.

 

[OldHwOverclocker]

What are you expecting? Where are you basing this expectation on?

Since my old pc which had an AMD fx 8320 and R9 280X in it could run fortnite at 1440p 30-45fps, I'd expect this pc to do way more than 60fps at 1440p

 

[Bob.B]

Since my old pc which had an AMD fx 8320 and R9 280X in it could run fortnite at 1440p 30-45fps, I'd expect this pc to do way more than 60fps at 1440p

You might want to run the UBM that was asked for above.
Then we can take a peek.
UBM

 

[OldHwOverclocker]

What is the make and model of your PSU? 550 psu tells us very little.

I'm using a Corsair VS550 80+ white power supply.

 

[OldHwOverclocker]

There is always a limiting factor.
Usually cpu or gpu.

Run the cpu-z bench test and look at the single thread performance rating.
It should be about 515::
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/ptjz47
Much different, look into it.

Reduce your resolution and quality settings.
That will make the gpu loaf.
If your performance remains the same, you are likely cpu limited.
If performance improves much, look into a stronger graphics card.

Thanks for your reply! This helped a lot.
I got a cpu-z single thread result of 510.
I tried reducing resolution and I only got about a 10-15 fps average increase going from 1440p high to 1080p medium.
So I guess I'm cpu limited in this situation. Not that this gpu could do too much more anyway so probably will upgrade them both.

 

[OldHwOverclocker]

You might want to run the UBM that was asked for above.
Then we can take a peek.

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/45520184
I know this is not a very recent ubm run but nothing has changed from this time and I'm not home atm.
Please ignore all the disks as they are not apart of the problem and are no longer installed in the system.
I'm currently running off of a 1000GB pcie 4.0 ssd.
Hope this helps.

 

[Zerk2012]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/45520184
I know this is not a very recent ubm run but nothing has changed from this time and I'm not home atm.
Please ignore all the disks as they are not apart of the problem and are no longer installed in the system.
I'm currently running off of a 1000GB pcie 4.0 ssd.
Hope this helps.

Then that is not a new test using what you have now.

 

[Bob.B]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/45520184
I know this is not a very recent ubm run but nothing has changed from this time and I'm not home atm.
Please ignore all the disks as they are not apart of the problem and are no longer installed in the system.
I'm currently running off of a 1000GB pcie 4.0 ssd.
Hope this helps.

When you get home run UBM and post a link.

 

[OldHwOverclocker]

Then that is not a new test using what you have now.

Removing any disk makes no difference in other problems. Everything else is the same. I can guarantee that the results will be the same or withing margin of error. So if there is a problem, it is visible in these results…

 

[Zerk2012]

Removing any disk makes no difference in other problems. Everything else is the same. I can guarantee that the results will be the same or withing margin of error. So if there is a problem, it is visible in these results…

They could be changes. CPU temp causing throttling amount other things.
August 7th of last year is no help.

 

[mdd1963]

The R5-3600 was/is no gaming powerhouse at any resolution(especially if running stock clock speeds at sub-3.9 GHz all-core or so) , certainly will not be when paired with a 5-6 year old mid-range GPU at 1440P...(assuming you are not limited by any sort of 100 Hz v-sync/refresh issues...)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV6nDwnbRS4

 

[OldHwOverclocker]

The R5-3600 was/is no gaming powerhouse at any resolution(especially if running stock clock speeds at sub-3.9 GHz all-core or so) , certainly will not be when paired with a 5-6 year old mid-range GPU at 1440P...(assuming you are not limited by any sort of 100 Hz v-sync/refresh issues...)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV6nDwnbRS4

I Understand but I still expect there to be a bigger difference when I changed from an FX 8320

 

[rgd1101]

do you really only have 4GB free on the os drive?

 

[Vic 40]

You use an older bios, maybe updating will help.

BIOS Date

20200401

most recent,

Version 4403 from 2022/05/31

 

[helper800]

Also that VS PSU is not the greatest, but the least of your many issues as noted above.

 

[OldHwOverclocker]

Also that VS PSU is not the greatest, but the least of your many issues as noted above.

Okay. Could you recommend a better power supply for this system? I'm not intending to upgrade this pc later so no need for future proofing.
I have also updated the bios now.
What other issues should I try to fix then?

 

[Vic 40]

What other issues should I try to fix then?

This,

do you really only have 4GB free on the os drive?

 

[Bob.B]

This,

The op posted an UBM from 9 months ago not sure I would pay much attention to it.

They were asked to post something current but that seems to be too much work.

 

[OldHwOverclocker]

They were asked to post something current but that seems to be too much work.

I think I got the answer already. Nothing seemed to be wrong so I may just need to upgrage the components. Thanks for the replies.

This does still leave me wondering why upgrading from an FX8320 only gave so little performance gains.

There is always a limiting factor.
Usually cpu or gpu.
Fortnite can only usefully use two cores.

I'd like to ask one more thing. Why did the FX processor get 100% utilized by fortnite even though it has more cores?

 

[Vic 40]

Is about Ryzen, haven't seen a game which truly can take uage of all cores while the cpu (drivers?) still wants to devide on all cores. Something like Cinebench is created to use al cores and all go to max. Think the only ones i have seen go that high are the true quad cores like the older 1200/1300x, maybe the 3300 gets close.

tried playing with the game settings?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBhu5iZxcoM