:? Please help. Pensioner not Tecky,
My question is this. Is it the motherboard, CPU or the memory that is slowing things down?
This computer was a barebones factory sourced, it worked well then at 13 months the modem went erratic, the DVD died at about 16 months then at 18months the computer died and after emails a letter to the MD, phone calls and lots of complaining it was agreed they would have it back at the factory to investigate.
Where for no charge they replaced the Foxconn SIS 661FX MO3 motherboard that they said had had a power surge across it? For a Foxconn SIS 661FX MO4.
Since then it really struggles to play some game demos that I had run no problem before with a lower spec Geforce 5200. Demos like Far cry, BF2, Battlefield 1942 and Unreal tournament all used to run fine before? Now they are jerky and slow or BF2 will not run at all. The factory thinks that the computer is fine as it is a budget computer suitable for writing letters and spreadsheets etc. not games demos.
If this is so why did we all have to upgrade from 266mhz or 677mhz and buy fast graphics cards on their recommendations?? When a new knib for our pens would have done the trick. Nobody mentioned BUDGET when it was purchased.
The facts below have been given in the attempt to answer as many question about my system if it will help diagnose the area at fault.
Intel Celeron D 335 2.8Ghz, Foxconn Sis661FX MO4 MOB. 512mb (2 x 256mb) Generic memory sticks. Dimm 1 Novatech brand unknown 256mb PC3200 DDR SDRAM Timings CL3.0–4–4-8 @ 200mhz; and
Dimm2 Novatech brand Nanya 256mb PC3200 DDR SDRAM Timings CL3.0–3–3-8 @ 200mhz.
Nvidia Geforce 6200 128MB AGP graphics card. Win XP SP2.
Memory gets these results using. Hot CPU Tester Pro(Lite Edition) 4.3 - Benchmark Result
Sunday, April 08, 2007
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Overall : 2117
MetaBench to MHz ratio : 0.75
Integer Instructions : 334 M Instructions/s
Floating-point Instructions : 131 M Instructions/s
MMX Instructions : 211 M Instructions/s
SSE Instructions : 79 M Instructions/s
SSE2 Instructions : 76 M Instructions/s
3DNow! Instructions : N/A M Instructions/s
Memory fillrate memcpy method : 381 MB/s
Memory fillrate C++ method : 380 MB/s
Memory rep movsd : 386 MB/s
Memory FPU 8 bytes blocks : 383 MB/s
Memory Assembly 4 bytes blocks : 382 MB/s
Memory Assembly 8 bytes blocks : 381 MB/s
Memory fillrate MMX 8 bytes blocks : 382 MB/s
Memory fillrate MMX 16 bytes blocks : 382 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE 16 bytes blocks : 384 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE movntq 8 bytes blocks : 573 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE movntq 16 bytes blocks : 572 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE prefetch movntq 16 bytes blocks : 571 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE movntps 16 bytes blocks : 573 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE prefetch movntps 32 bytes blocks : 577 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE2 prefetch movntps 16 bytes blocks : 383 MB/s
Insertion Sort : 22 K Items/s
Shell Sort : 498 K Items/s
Merge Sort : 938 K Items/s
Heap Sort : 337 K Items/s
Quick Sort : 1,950 K Items/s
Large Objects Sort : 306 K Items/s
Fast Fourier Transformg (Standard) : 1,229 KB/s
Fast Fourier Transformg (Optimized) : 2,603 KB/s
These results using Everest 2.20.405 2003-2005 (by Lavalys)
Benchmark Mem read: 530MB/s Other Celerons quoted are around 1400 -1800 MB/s
Write: 269MB/s Other Celerons quoted are around 640 - 750 MB/s
Latency: 426.8ns Other Celerons quoted are around 169 - 190 ns
These results using SiSoft Sandra Lite ver 2007.4.11.22
Memory Bandwidth
468MB/s in. buffered 1sse2
487MB/s Flt. buffered 1sse2
Memory Latency Random access: 686ns 163.8 x Speed factor
Caches & Memory: 1443MB/s 33.6 x Speed factor
CPU gives good results in all above tests if good is the right word as a true Intel Celeron 335 2800Mhz x86 a 21 x133 Intel, all temperatures for CPU case and graphics were good to low no overheating under load, and I do not know how to overclock anything so system is still running at stock rates for everything as supplied.
Many thanks in anticipation of your help and assistance in these matters
My question is this. Is it the motherboard, CPU or the memory that is slowing things down?
This computer was a barebones factory sourced, it worked well then at 13 months the modem went erratic, the DVD died at about 16 months then at 18months the computer died and after emails a letter to the MD, phone calls and lots of complaining it was agreed they would have it back at the factory to investigate.
Where for no charge they replaced the Foxconn SIS 661FX MO3 motherboard that they said had had a power surge across it? For a Foxconn SIS 661FX MO4.
Since then it really struggles to play some game demos that I had run no problem before with a lower spec Geforce 5200. Demos like Far cry, BF2, Battlefield 1942 and Unreal tournament all used to run fine before? Now they are jerky and slow or BF2 will not run at all. The factory thinks that the computer is fine as it is a budget computer suitable for writing letters and spreadsheets etc. not games demos.
If this is so why did we all have to upgrade from 266mhz or 677mhz and buy fast graphics cards on their recommendations?? When a new knib for our pens would have done the trick. Nobody mentioned BUDGET when it was purchased.
The facts below have been given in the attempt to answer as many question about my system if it will help diagnose the area at fault.
Intel Celeron D 335 2.8Ghz, Foxconn Sis661FX MO4 MOB. 512mb (2 x 256mb) Generic memory sticks. Dimm 1 Novatech brand unknown 256mb PC3200 DDR SDRAM Timings CL3.0–4–4-8 @ 200mhz; and
Dimm2 Novatech brand Nanya 256mb PC3200 DDR SDRAM Timings CL3.0–3–3-8 @ 200mhz.
Nvidia Geforce 6200 128MB AGP graphics card. Win XP SP2.
Memory gets these results using. Hot CPU Tester Pro(Lite Edition) 4.3 - Benchmark Result
Sunday, April 08, 2007
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Overall : 2117
MetaBench to MHz ratio : 0.75
Integer Instructions : 334 M Instructions/s
Floating-point Instructions : 131 M Instructions/s
MMX Instructions : 211 M Instructions/s
SSE Instructions : 79 M Instructions/s
SSE2 Instructions : 76 M Instructions/s
3DNow! Instructions : N/A M Instructions/s
Memory fillrate memcpy method : 381 MB/s
Memory fillrate C++ method : 380 MB/s
Memory rep movsd : 386 MB/s
Memory FPU 8 bytes blocks : 383 MB/s
Memory Assembly 4 bytes blocks : 382 MB/s
Memory Assembly 8 bytes blocks : 381 MB/s
Memory fillrate MMX 8 bytes blocks : 382 MB/s
Memory fillrate MMX 16 bytes blocks : 382 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE 16 bytes blocks : 384 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE movntq 8 bytes blocks : 573 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE movntq 16 bytes blocks : 572 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE prefetch movntq 16 bytes blocks : 571 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE movntps 16 bytes blocks : 573 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE prefetch movntps 32 bytes blocks : 577 MB/s
Memory fillrate SSE2 prefetch movntps 16 bytes blocks : 383 MB/s
Insertion Sort : 22 K Items/s
Shell Sort : 498 K Items/s
Merge Sort : 938 K Items/s
Heap Sort : 337 K Items/s
Quick Sort : 1,950 K Items/s
Large Objects Sort : 306 K Items/s
Fast Fourier Transformg (Standard) : 1,229 KB/s
Fast Fourier Transformg (Optimized) : 2,603 KB/s
These results using Everest 2.20.405 2003-2005 (by Lavalys)
Benchmark Mem read: 530MB/s Other Celerons quoted are around 1400 -1800 MB/s
Write: 269MB/s Other Celerons quoted are around 640 - 750 MB/s
Latency: 426.8ns Other Celerons quoted are around 169 - 190 ns
These results using SiSoft Sandra Lite ver 2007.4.11.22
Memory Bandwidth
468MB/s in. buffered 1sse2
487MB/s Flt. buffered 1sse2
Memory Latency Random access: 686ns 163.8 x Speed factor
Caches & Memory: 1443MB/s 33.6 x Speed factor
CPU gives good results in all above tests if good is the right word as a true Intel Celeron 335 2800Mhz x86 a 21 x133 Intel, all temperatures for CPU case and graphics were good to low no overheating under load, and I do not know how to overclock anything so system is still running at stock rates for everything as supplied.
Many thanks in anticipation of your help and assistance in these matters
If I lived in the US, I'd be suing all day.
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