News Windows 10 Still More Popular Than Windows 11, Two Years Later

[CountMike]

Problem with W11 not being "popular" as W10 is mainly because of new HW requirements, it will take time for OEM to replace older PCs with W11 as default. That would gradually all but eliminate complaints as new users would not even know or care what W10 was. Happens all the time.
That leaves only old-new users to upgrade HW (likely to happen anyway as it ages) and their willingness to switch from something familiar and "just works". W10's support for another 2 years doesn't help W11 either, most will probably hang to it even longer just like the case with W7, a lot of them out there.
Personally, probably by nature and job requirements, I always embraced new tech and with it computers and OSs since well before PC and DOS/Windows.If I survived on Unix and Sun systems. I can certainly cope with any new Windows even now at 76.
I run as dual BOOT in parallel or different PCs all Windows beta versions since W95 in order to familiarize myself with inevitable change and that proved to be right way, no surprises. Way to go methinks.
I can bet $$$ to donuts, same saga will continue with W12 or whatever comes up until AI gets us all, There will be tons of W11 nostalgia like now with W7.

 

[rambo919]

I'd like to see some actual evidence of that.

No evidence needed, anyone paying attention over the last few decades can confirm from personal experience.... happens every time. Usually under cover of "security updates". I even remember how annoyed people were about XP specifically..... M$ became a lot more savvy with it after that debacle.

 

[USAFRet]

No evidence needed, anyone paying attention over the last few decades can confirm from personal experience.... happens every time. Usually under cover of "security updates". I even remember how annoyed people were about XP specifically..... M$ became a lot more savvy with it after that debacle.

"No evidence needed..."

Thats a funny one.

Unlike Apple, who purposely and demonstrably slowed down iPhones, and were caught doing it....we're just supposed to take this on faith?

 

[rambo919]

"No evidence needed..."

Thats a funny one.

Unlike Apple, who purposely and demonstrably slowed down iPhones, and were caught doing it....we're just supposed to take this on faith?

Just wait then..... either next year or the year after win10 will at some point become either just as or even slower than win11. It's inevitable, the only variable is the excuse offered for it.

 

[shadow.garret]

Well duh, they still don't have fully functional task bar, 2 years after release, it's worse than Windows 98 version

 

[JeffreyP55]

A Market share analysis from StatCounter has revealed that Windows 11 adoption is slower than Windows 10, and the new OS has a current market share of just 23.61%.

Windows 10 Still More Popular Than Windows 11, Two Years Later : Read more

Have both. I prefer 11. 10 feels rusty.

 

[JeffreyP55]

Well duh, they still don't have fully functional task bar, 2 years after release, it's worse than Windows 98 version

Recently task bar funtions were, tested, added and removed. Window 11 task bar is now fully functional.

 

[JeffreyP55]

A LARGE part of this is there is no real impetus to move from 10 to 11.

When 10 was released, it was a great relief for many to get off the 8/8.1 problem.

With 11, it is so similar to 10, there is no real issue.


I'd wager the majority of WIn 11 installs are on systems bought with it, in the last 2 years..
Of my 5x house systems, 2 are Win 11, 3 on Win 10.
The 2x Win 11 boxes started as 11, the Surface laptop came from the store.
The other 3 Win10 systems...there is no real hurry to change, even though all 3 are Win 11 capable.

Yep, new system newer much improved OS. I hated going from 7 to 10 but it had to be done. Windows 2000 (NT) was a favorite but did not support USB. BAH!!! 11 for me. still have 10 on my 4790k/GTX1080ti.

 

[InvalidError]

I cannot stand a mouse-and-keyboard DESKTOP environment full of big fat finger buttons everywhere, such a horrible waste of screen space. Leave the touch-centric design language on mobile-centric apps running on a mobile-centric OS.

 

[palladin9479]

I cannot stand a mouse-and-keyboard DESKTOP environment full of big fat finger buttons everywhere, such a horrible waste of screen space. Leave the touch-centric design language on mobile-centric apps running on a mobile-centric OS.

But how else are they going to sell your desktop space for ad revenue?


For myself Windows 10 MetroUI is only tolerable because I replace large portions of it with Open-Shell set to Windows 7 Aero mode. Windows 11 updates keep messing with the UI code, and the Open-Shell devs keep fixing it, so no changing for me until it gets stable.

Welcome to Open-Shell

Classic Shell Reborn.

open-shell.github.io

GitHub - Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu: Classic Shell Reborn.

Classic Shell Reborn. Contribute to Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

 

[Giroro]

I'd like to see some actual evidence of that.

I don't know about Windows 10 slowing down, But I have multiple PCs where Windows 10 Explorer turns into a glitchy unusable mess if you leave the computer powered on for a few days.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

I don't know about Windows 10 slowing down, But I have multiple PCs where Windows 10 Explorer turns into a glitchy unusable mess if you leave the computer powered on for a few days.

my Win10 Pro system goes for weeks at a time with only using "sleep" mode when not actively using.
wake it up and everything is right back to tip-top shape running as it should.

have never had any issue with performance.
or specifically, "Explorer turning into a glitchy mess".

sounds more like you may have some deeper hardware or possibly software issue going on with all of these systems.
if you are using the same Windows installation package for each, this could be a step to look into.

 

[InvalidError]

I don't know about Windows 10 slowing down, But I have multiple PCs where Windows 10 Explorer turns into a glitchy unusable mess if you leave the computer powered on for a few days.

I run my Windows 10 PC for 2-3 months at a time between updates and don't typically have any issues.

 

[USAFRet]

I don't know about Windows 10 slowing down, But I have multiple PCs where Windows 10 Explorer turns into a glitchy unusable mess if you leave the computer powered on for a few days.

And I have 3x Win 10 and 11 systems that are on 24/7 for weeks/months without a reboot, and have never ever seen that issue.

 

[JeffreyP55]

I skip windows 11 and wait for 12

I skipped 8. Remember the, "Metro Look?" * never went on my PC. 7-10.

 

[kerberos_20]

I skipped 8. Remember the, "Metro Look?" * never went on my PC. 7-10.

nobody remembers metro look, as that was changed in 8.1 to start menu with live tiles, which is similar to what you have in win 10

 

[derekullo]

what kind of debloating is this? 😵 mine win11 sits at 2.5-4GB idle

I didn't spend much time trying to debloat Windows 11 as I could have.
My current Windows 11 desktop is sitting at 10.2/32 gigabytes of ram with Steam, Battle.net, Firefox and CrashPlan open
Subtracting their ram usage would put me at around 8 gigabytes.
Much less essential with 24 threads and 32 gigabytes of ram!

For the laptop I reimaged to Windows 10 with a media creation tool usb.

Used group policy to disable Automatic download and update of store applications/appx packages.

Ran
Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Remove-AppxPackage
to remove all APPX packages

Disabled any service that wasn't necessary and uninstalled anything not essential in programs and features.

 

[tamalero]

but on win10 you dont get BypassIO, so you get only partial direct storage support (slower)

Interesting, is any game or product using this feature ?

 

[tamalero]

I'd like to see some actual evidence of that.

Agree. Patching != normal bloatware that form for using, installing and uninstalling.
I'm still surprised that MS hasn't fixed the garbage left behind by installers.

 

[JeffreyP55]

I didn't spend much time trying to debloat Windows 11 as I could have.
My current Windows 11 desktop is sitting at 10.2/32 gigabytes of ram with Steam, Battle.net, Firefox and CrashPlan open
Subtracting their ram usage would put me at around 8 gigabytes.
Much less essential with 24 threads and 32 gigabytes of ram!

For the laptop I reimaged to Windows 10 with a media creation tool usb.

Used group policy to disable Automatic download and update of store applications/appx packages.

Ran
Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Remove-AppxPackage
to remove all APPX packages

Disabled any service that wasn't necessary and uninstalled anything not essential in programs and features.

 

[JeffreyP55]

nobody remembers metro look, as that was changed in 8.1 to start menu with live tiles, which is similar to what you have in win 10

The 8.x OS was doomed from the get go. Didn't last very long thank you. Many people hated 10 at. Fear of the unknown!

 

[kerberos_20]

Interesting, is any game or product using this feature ?

forspoken does

https://imgur.com/EQ7KuLy

View: https://imgur.com/EQ7KuLy

 

[Sparc343]

I do NOT doubt for one second that 10 is still more "popular" than 11. To me, I am STILL on Win7, at least for my gaming machine. I am STILL in the hold-out group because Win10 AND Win11 are both incrementally becoming more invasive, in more than one way!

Is Windows 11 spying on you? New report details eye-opening levels of telemetry

Worried about privacy and Windows 11? This YouTube clip won’t be a comfortable watch

www.techradar.com

View: https://youtu.be/IT4vDfA_4NI?si=mnbOV0i6iWDwc5Ru


I also do NOT doubt for one second that this (all) is NOT going to go "backwards" either. It is just going to continue to get worse and more invasive! So, I do HOPE that Linux becomes more popular than ANY version of Winblows!!!!!!!!!! I hope THAT happens within the next TWO years... .. . As for me, yup, you guessed it; I am completely ditching Winblows for Linux!!!

 

[jasonf2]

I have no issue with Windows 11. I just don't have any compelling reason to start over my computer build (as I have a noncompliant first gen Threadripper) to migrate to an OS upgrade that biggest advantages lie in a tighter security model (that makes my CPU and motherboard that I paid dearly for obsolete) and a task scheduler update that doesn't do anything until you go big/little. I kind of think of Windows 11 alot like Windows ME. It was ok, but not compelling enough to move from 95 and had its own series of drawbacks that made it fine to install with a new computer build, but not enough to upgrade. If the OS would have let me I probably would have migrated, but I am not going to spend money to do so.

 

[JakeTheMate]

I only went to Windows 11 for Directstorage (if games ever implement it) and AutoHDR (when I can afford a nice enough monitor a few years from now).

Direct Storage works on Win 10. https://www.lifewire.com/use-directstorage-windows-10-7556351

Games are already using it. Forspoken was one of if not the first.