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More info?)
Thank you for your help.
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Eric Howard
Systems Technology Administrator
US District Court
MCSA, Network +, A +, CNA
"Phenglai" wrote:
> I can not think of any literature or sites that would back up why to not do
> it the way your manager wants. The way he wants to procede would be entirely
> too much overhead and work and that is why Microsoft built in the tools and
> abilty to migrate instead of hard cutting everything.
>
> Here are the things I see you would have to do and where problems would come
> in.
>
> 1. Every machine would need to join the domain which would mean doing so to
> every computer.
> 2. All Group Policy settings will need setup again.
> 3. DFS and FRS would need built again.
> 4. You would have to redirect everyone's My Documents
> 5. If your manager does not want the servers to ever be on the same domain,
> there will be the issue of moving the current data over to the new servers.
> How will you accomplish this?
> 6. Any backup methods you have in place will have to be moved as well.
>
> I wish I could help you out more. I will keep looking for examples of why
> not to do it like that.
>
> Jerel
> --
> Jerel Byrd
>
>
> "Eric Howard" wrote:
>
> > Phenglai,
> >
> > Thanks for your response. We have four locations. Each location is receiving
> > a new DC. None of the workstations are being replaced. So they will have to
> > be disjoined from the old domain and rejoined to the new one. I agree with
> > your philosophy for upgrading, but I need to build a case for it to my
> > manager. Aside from having to rejoin all the workstations can you think of
> > any other problems that might occur?
> >
> > We are using DFS in conjunction with FRS. We have one DFS root that
> > replicates all data to all DC's in each location. Under the DFS root we have
> > four folders that hold user data, software for installs, applications run
> > from the server, and some archived data. User's My Documents and Application
> > Data are being redirected to this DFS as well.
> >
> > --
> > Eric Howard
> > Systems Technology Administrator
> > US District Court
> > MCSA, Network +, A +, CNA
> >
> >
> > "Phenglai" wrote:
> >
> > > I am assuming you are on a 2000 AD domain. Based on what you are saying, you
> > > are getting all new computers.
> > >
> > > Lets first ask these questions:
> > >
> > > 1. What type of DFS do you have and FRS do you have? Is it a domain based DFS?
> > >
> > > 2. Are you taking every server to 2003 including the DC's?
> > >
> > > The way your boss is wanting to go will work but you are just asking for
> > > problems. If you have two seperate domains called the same thing and come in
> > > on the weekend, you are going to have to re-add every machine to the new
> > > domain, thats 100 machines and too much work.
> > >
> > > There are several schools of thought and everyone has there own 'correct'
> > > way. I would be to bring up the new DC's, then the other servers in your
> > > current domain. You can run the 2003 DC's in mixed mode until you are 100%
> > > sure everything is working as it did. Then demote the old 2000 DC's. At this
> > > point, you will still be in mixed mode but have all 2003 DC's. Then you can
> > > upgrade to native mode at any given point.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerel Byrd
> > >
> > >
> > > "Eric Howard" wrote:
> > >
> > > > We are going to upgrade to windows 2003 at my work. We currently have around
> > > > 65 users and 100 computers in four different locations. We are using DFS and
> > > > FRS as well. My supervisor wants to create a new domain (using the same DNS
> > > > name) without connecting the servers to our network. Then come in on a
> > > > weekend and shutdown our old servers and bring up the new ones. I told him at
> > > > the very least we would have to disjoin from the domain and join them to the
> > > > new one. Can anyone think of any other negative effects of doing this kind of
> > > > upgrade? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > PS - any articles that would help in my case that this is a bad idea would
> > > > be greatly appreciated.
> > > > --
> > > > Eric Howard
> > > > Systems Technology Administrator
> > > > US District Court
> > > > MCSA, Network +, A +, CNA