Question With this spec, do I need a graphic card to boost CPU performance?

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CPU: i9-7900X
RAM: 8 Corsair 16GB RAMs DDR4
SSD: 970 EVO Plus Samsung
Motherboard: Aorus X299
CPU Cooler 1: Liquid Freezer II 420
CPU Cooler 2: DeepCool AK620
Case 1: Cooler Master
Case 2: Lian Li Lancool III ATX

I read that some CPUs require a separate graphic card to make the monitor run. Is that the case for me?

And if my CPU allows using the monitor without having a separate graphic card, still is it good to have one?

I will not play games. I will only use statistical softwares like Stata. Still having a separate graphic card helps?

I think Power Supply and Monitor are missing. What else is missing?

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I revise the question based on replies.

I learned that I need a graphic card. I found that I have one very old graphic card : gt730 2gb 128BIT GDDR5. Will this be enough?

For power supply, what watt level of power supply will be required? 1000W?
 
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I think you do need a graphics card.


I don't see an operating system on your list.

You might need case fans.
I have one case fan. And the case comes with three fans on the front and one fan on the back. So if I additionally put one more case fan here, will that be enough?
 
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I think you do need a graphics card.


I don't see an operating system on your list.

You might need case fans.
For that CPU, yes you do need a graphics card, If all you need is a GPU to get a display, look around on the used market for one, don't buy a GT710 or 1030 new, costs way to much, Better off looking around for them on the used market.


I found that I have one very old graphic card : gt730 2gb 128BIT GDDR5

Will this be enough?
 
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The GT730 will be fine for 2d applications, like Windows or almost all non-graphics based apps. It'll suffer Heavily with any 3D applications, even something as simple as Microsoft Solitaire or Rainmeter or any other graphical based app.

Running computational software, like Prime95 or anything else that's going to push All the cores to high usage will be seriously taxing on the cpu cooler, that 140w rating is misleading. That only applies to Nominal usage, not Maximum usage.

For Nominal usage, the AK620 will be fine, but it does have limits, if using hours of Prime95 or similar then you'll need the pure heatsoak capacity of the larger AIO's.

Don't base ypu cooler on the case, base the case on the needs of the cooling. The Lancool E-ATX will fit a 420mm AIO, and the single rear fan with an extra fan mounted on top at the rear position will be plenty, you'll have 3x extra fans, use the fans from the Arctic, not the 3x case fans in front.
 
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The GT730 will be fine for 2d applications, like Windows or almost all non-graphics based apps. It'll suffer Heavily with any 3D applications, even something as simple as Microsoft Solitaire or Rainmeter or any other graphical based app.

Running computational software, like Prime95 or anything else that's going to push All the cores to high usage will be seriously taxing on the cpu cooler, that 140w rating is misleading. That only applies to Nominal usage, not Maximum usage.

For Nominal usage, the AK620 will be fine, but it does have limits, if using hours of Prime95 or similar then you'll need the pure heatsoak capacity of the larger AIO's.

Don't base ypu cooler on the case, base the case on the needs of the cooling. The Lancool E-ATX will fit a 420mm AIO, and the single rear fan with an extra fan mounted on top at the rear position will be plenty, you'll have 3x extra fans, use the fans from the Arctic, not the 3x case fans in front.

Thanks. What did you mean "140w rating is misleading"? Which component are you referring to? Power supply? You mean I have to get power supply that's more powerful than 140w?
 
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We all know that a Graphics Card is used to play games and produce visual output, but I want to dive deeper into the working of a graphics card.

A Processing unit, be it a CPU (Central Processing Unit) or a GPU (Graphical Processing Unit) both perform mathematical operations on binary (0 and 1).

You mave have heard of cores? The cores are basically ALUs (Arithmetic Logic Unit) and perform arithmetic operations.
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No, you don't need a video card. All Zen4 CPUs (Ryzen 7000-series) have an IGP so you'd only have to plug your monitor into your motherboard's HDMI port.

Having said that, IGPs are pitifully weak, even when compared to video cards that are themselves considered pitifully weak. More than anything else, IGPs are glorified video adapters that can run some games (like CS:GO, Overwatch, PUBG, etc.).
 
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No, you don't need a video card. All Zen4 CPUs (Ryzen 7000-series) have an IGP so you'd only have to plug your monitor into your motherboard's HDMI port.

Having said that, IGPs are pitifully weak, even when compared to video cards that are themselves considered pitifully weak. More than anything else, IGPs are glorified video adapters that can run some games (like CS:GO, Overwatch, PUBG, etc.).
This is an i9 not an r9 it's an intel system and one for the HEDT segment it's an X series one and doesn't have an iGPU.

Also he already said that he only needs windows output and that he doesn't play games.
 
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What level of power supply would you think I need?

For that CPU, yes you do need a graphics card, If all you need is a GPU to get a display, look around on the used market for one, don't buy a GT710 or 1030 new, costs way to much, Better off looking around for them on the used market.
This is an i9 not an r9 it's an intel system and one for the HEDT segment it's an X series one and doesn't have an iGPU.

Also he already said that he only needs windows output and that he doesn't play games.
 
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What level of power supply would you think I need?
I used a power supply calculator and spec'd something similar with basically a worst case scenario. It looks like you could get by with a 500w, but if you want some room for a decent GPU in the future I would get a 700w PSU or better.


 
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The biggest issue with power supplies is wattage vs quality. There aren't any quality 500w or 700w psus, there are several somewhat ok psus and a metric ton of garbage psus.

Op's pc is being built for statistics, statistic probability and other various computational programs, it's main necessity will be stability under loads for possible extended duration. No glitches, no spikes, just solid clean power.

So the psu doesn't need to be uber gaming rated, but it does need to be solid and reliable. Because of pricing competition, 550w and 650w are generally in the same ballpark, don't need a excellent Gold rated psu, but a decent one will work, I'd not run a Bronze as that level of efficiency just adds to heat and power draw from the wall.

#1 rule of psus, do not buy cheap, do the research, count on at an absolute minimum of 5-7 years of reliable service, so the difference between a good $150 psu and a junk $120 psu is less than $5 a year investment in insurance.

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