Your Experience with Windows 10

[nukemaster]

I think pushing store updates may be good. Too many people use Modern apps, but never ensure they are upto date.

Should always be able to disabled the Windows update service, but that I would. I certainly do not want my system restarting when I am away either however. Download and let me chose when to install has been the best for me.

 

[USAFRet]

Once it is actually released and installed, we shall see.

 

[The_Prophecy]

I like the idea of forcing people to keep the OS up to date (because not nearly enough people actually do it), but I think their approach should be as follows:

Users should be presented with a dialog saying that updates have been downloaded, and you have 1 week to install them. After 1 week, they will be installed regardless, and then you have 3 days to reboot the system so the updates take effect. That gives everyone enough time to do the updates at their convenience if they choose, but avoids the issue of old, unpatched vulnerabilities being exploited because the user couldn't be bothered.

 

[Mike BD]

Really? That's all? Thank you. I wonder why so many tech writers are unaware of this and preaching death about the auto update......?

Yes,that's all.My pleasure.For the last question,it's all about marketing.

 

[haxenkoff]

super fast and smooth. but i am not gonna pay 50353544$ for a os

 

[James Mason]

super fast and smooth. but i am not gonna pay 50353544$ for a os

Good thing it only costs $90-$120 then.

 

[Mike BD]

super fast and smooth. but i am not gonna pay 50353544$ for a os

Good thing it only costs $90-$120 then.

And Insiders will have it free for lifetime.

 

[saharmohamedali]

Well, I mostly like Windows 10.

I disagree with the previous poster about Windows 10 looking like '95, I think he doesn't actually know/remember what 95 looked like. But I'm not 100% keen on the minimalistic/no black icons and overall styling. One of the biggest issues with the latest version of Office is how hard it is to differentiate the buttons and tabs.

I'm not a big fan of the start menu, as it makes finding things that I know the location of things that I know where they're located sort of difficult, but makes finding things I don't know the location of easier.

I also dislike the way settings/control panel are getting meshed/split apart/hidden, they're making it take more work for the people who know how computers work to use them.

I'm probably still gonna use ClassicShell to bring back a proper but updated Windows 7 start menu, and in reality, MS should let us choose/customize it to shutup most of the ranters about how bad Windows 8/10 is.

I like the idea of what Cortana represents, I think she just needs to get better and be able to do more things, and seem a little more realistic, like a REAL Personal Digital Assistant. Maybe like, have personalized Cortana accounts that can be used across devices (I'd get a Windows phone with Cortana if she also knew my PC and stuff, have her take dictation, even set up appointments with other people for you, like be able to hold "that level" of a conversation.) and can learn about you, ect.

I haven't done anything really serious with my Windows 10 system yet though, but I still look forward to upgrading my Windows 8 ones when it comes out. I just hope upgrading a system won't completely **** everything up.

Well I have 4 computers to upgrade.

o...kay...?

Yeah I noticed that too.......

 

[ToineF]

I installed it on a VM within two minutes of playing in it I was desperately looking for a way to get the start menu back. Thank god there will be some third party start menu out there.

Why is microsoft shooting themselves in the foot like that.... I just dont understand.

Put the classic theme even if it means modern apps are listed in it. gees!

 

[Lee-m]

I hated windows 8, mainly due to the horrid full screen start menu, but the windows 10 version is fine. Its pretty much the same as the windows 7 start menu but with a customisable space to add tiles.

You can add anything you like to it, such as, This pc (AKA my computer), Control panel. Create a sub heading to put games under. For the most part you can ignore whats left of the metro/modern ui and modern apps.

The windows 7 start menu was never that great, it got messy fast and active tiles can give more information. win10 seems pretty good to me.

 

[ToineF]

I hated windows 8, mainly due to the horrid full screen start menu, but the windows 10 version is fine. Its pretty much the same as the windows 7 start menu but with a customisable space to add tiles.

You can add anything you like to it, such as, This pc (AKA my computer), Control panel. Create a sub heading to put games under. For the most part you can ignore whats left of the metro/modern ui and modern apps.

The windows 7 start menu was never that great, it got messy fast and active tiles can give more information. win10 seems pretty good to me.

They had so much hate from ppl whining about win8 I would think they would have at least given then option to have the classic shell back. That's what they did with windows XP back in the days.

It just shows MS is trying to force something here, I don't like it!

 

[James Mason]

I hated windows 8, mainly due to the horrid full screen start menu, but the windows 10 version is fine. Its pretty much the same as the windows 7 start menu but with a customisable space to add tiles.

You can add anything you like to it, such as, This pc (AKA my computer), Control panel. Create a sub heading to put games under. For the most part you can ignore whats left of the metro/modern ui and modern apps.

The windows 7 start menu was never that great, it got messy fast and active tiles can give more information. win10 seems pretty good to me.

They had so much hate from ppl whining about win8 I would think they would have at least given then option to have the classic shell back. That's what they did with windows XP back in the days.

It just shows MS is trying to force something here, I don't like it!

It also shows how people are really really bad with minor cosmetic changes. And also how indignant people can be about having to learn something new. Which is apparent all throughout politics and social life.

 

[Mike BD]

Here it comes!

 

[ToineF]

I hated windows 8, mainly due to the horrid full screen start menu, but the windows 10 version is fine. Its pretty much the same as the windows 7 start menu but with a customisable space to add tiles.

You can add anything you like to it, such as, This pc (AKA my computer), Control panel. Create a sub heading to put games under. For the most part you can ignore whats left of the metro/modern ui and modern apps.

The windows 7 start menu was never that great, it got messy fast and active tiles can give more information. win10 seems pretty good to me.

They had so much hate from ppl whining about win8 I would think they would have at least given then option to have the classic shell back. That's what they did with windows XP back in the days.

It just shows MS is trying to force something here, I don't like it!

It also shows how people are really really bad with minor cosmetic changes. And also how indignant people can be about having to learn something new. Which is apparent all throughout politics and social life.

I love learning new things. I work in IT and I am always taking weekend and night classes to learn new things and update my knowledge. Heck I even have a windows phone.

But I am smart enough to know that when something is changed for the WORSE. Than I would rather stay with what I use and like.

I mean, it's not because MS pushes it out that it's necessarily better.

 

[ToineF]

in resume: Type this command and press enter: wuauclt.exe/updatenow

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Just tried clean installing from the ISOs available here.

Skipped entering the product key; it wouldn't accept my Win7 Ultimate retail one. I'm going to see if I can find a way to convince it after install.

The activation system says it's loaded with a key ending in -3V66T; I'm guessing this is burned into the disk. Says the activation server blocked it.

I'm pulling the drive for later; going to install 7 and see if a upgrade from the ISO works.

 

[ToineF]

Just tried clean installing from the ISOs available here.

Skipped entering the product key; it wouldn't accept my Win7 Ultimate retail one. I'm going to see if I can find a way to convince it after install.

The activation system says it's loaded with a key ending in -3V66T; I'm guessing this is burned into the disk. Says the activation server blocked it.

I'm pulling the drive for later; going to install 7 and see if a upgrade from the ISO works.

Probably only the upgrade works.... I hope I am wrong tho! This would really sucks from MS

I want a clean install too!

 

[James Mason]

Actually, if you do an upgrade install, it gives you the option of doing a clean install.
When it asks "choose what to keep" you can tell it to keep nothing.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

As above, you can sort-of clean install it. If you insert the disc (or USB), it gives you three options for an upgrade:

However, you still need a previous version of Windows installed. I wish they just let you enter a valid 7/8 key when booted from the disc, but nope...

It seems to stall on "Checking for updates". I'd suggest not ticking that box; their servers are probably hammered right now.

PS: Here's the SHA1s for the ISOs. They're from Windows Insider, but same hashes as MSDN:
da7f63166db9abb9b613f302866d1b0a8f686646 Win10_EnglishInternational_x32.iso
3e4734de476327f67d2e97cdeadedb4bea98623c Win10_EnglishInternational_x64.iso
d927a91e1dd7d9c6023d0da1dbcb16defec5b6c1 Win10_English_x32.iso
60cce9e9c6557335b4f7b18d02cfe2b438a8b3e2 Win10_English_x64.iso

 

[ToineF]

^good to know, thanks.

I will try all of this when I get home tonight!

 

[Someone Somewhere]

I just did the maths... up to one billion devices. Three gigabytes per device.

Microsoft expects to push out THREE EXABYTES OF DATA.

Pity torrents have got such a bad rap because of piracy... stuff like this is literally what it was designed for.

 

[ToineF]

I just did the maths... up to one billion devices. Three gigabytes per device.

Microsoft expects to push out THREE EXABYTES OF DATA.

Pity torrents have got such a bad rap because of piracy... stuff like this is literally what it was designed for.

good point

 

[Someone Somewhere]

WOOHOO!

Clean installed while booted in 7, off external media downloaded from Insider.

Magic Jellybean shows a generic key, not the Windows 7 key used for the parent install. This is the same key that appeared when I booted off the disk and didn't enter any keys, and it didn't activate then.

Next try: install clean when booted off the media now that I've potentially activated my key, or whatever is happening.

 

[James Mason]

Uhh, you sure you wanna show everyone your CDkey there Someone?

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Not my key.

As I said, it's a generic key. Googling it yields a few thousand results: https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=VK7JG-NPHTM