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Hey there everyone,

I'm looking to build a system piecemeal, for the first time ever. What I mean by Oblivion-proof is that it will not fall below 60FPS outdoors with max settings @ 1280x1024. I am trying to be as cost-efficient at the same time, of course 😉

Here are the odds and ends:
- I heard that for a 19" screen, the ideal resolution is 1280x1024. Is there any truth to this, or should I shoot for a different resolution (and thus need better/crappier equipment)?
- I also heard that 2ms response time is a MUST for screens to erase any shadowing. 2ms response screens are much more respective than 8ms ones... which should I go for?
- I would like an upgradable system.
- I am not looking for anything too fancy in terms of setup - dual cards, raid drives, etc. - single drive, single card please.
- 10,000 RPM drive - worth it for this kind of system (100% gaming)? I hardly use any space on my HD... if I'm not using it, it gets deleted. I don't think I've ever eclipsed 90 gigs.
- ram speed (in mhz)... 533, 667, 800, 1000? Which to get and why? I know I will need 2 gigs.
- SB X-fi or whatever it is called... again I hear that all new games will need this to have the best sound quality. Any thoughts?

Thanks everyone :)
 
"I'm looking to build a system piecemeal, for the first time ever. What I mean by Oblivion-proof is that it will not fall below 60FPS outdoors with max settings @ 1280x1024. I am trying to be as cost-efficient at the same time, of course "

lol at present i dont think that there is a single card out there that "never" drops below 60ftp's in oblivion lol, if u really want a "cost-eficent"system ...wait till atleast the beginning of 2008 then there will be some g80, and r600 which should handle oblivion without a sweat on max settings lol...im not joking, even the best gpu's nowedays have 30/40 ftp's or so in frames.

lol i liked the cost efficient and max out oblivion in one sentence lol :wink: ...no offence but i just think that the hardware nowedays is not hm...so evolved, thats why im waiting for the r60's to come out, even the 1950xtx is not worth geting(atleast to me its not) compared to whata will come out in mid to late 2007 (in games) oblivion will be a mid to low quality game, honestly i dont think oblivion is such a great game, i admit that it has nice locations and all, but if ur looking to build a system just for that game, with todays technology ull have to spend quite a bit, and honestly You will not see much results(just my opinion) that is You will max out the games of today, but the games of mid 2007 an even a year from now will be miles beter than todays(not so great titles-in my opinion)...darn i sound so negative in this post....sory about it lol ...gues i cant wait for the r600's to come out lol :wink:
 
if you want to run oblivion with the highest possible settings
then you will have to spend some money

the gpu is the most important thing

the 79gt/gtx or the x1900s would be the way to go

with the x1900s you can get hdr and a.a. at the same time
i believe they are the only cards that can do it

if you want an upgradable sys then you will want a crossfire/sli
board not that you have to buy 2 cards at once

reviews on oblivion at thg,gamespot and other sites say that 12x10res.

is the best overall gameplay anything higher say 1920x1080
will eat modern computers for breakfast. :cry:
 
lol then if u want to get the build "fully" done now get a sapphire or a msi card they usualy are much (50 and more) cheaper than the original ati cards and perform the same, unles ull go with nvidia cards, im not shoor about those.
 
Hey there everyone,

I'm looking to build a system piecemeal, for the first time ever. What I mean by Oblivion-proof is that it will not fall below 60FPS outdoors with max settings @ 1280x1024. I am trying to be as cost-efficient at the same time, of course 😉
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Interesting...

Answer the following simple question:

Can you afford to buy 2 X1900XTX to use in Crossfire mode?

Your answer will determine if you have the budget for your desired system.
 
Funny everybody is saying this... some guy I know claims to have such a system. He built in about 3 months ago or so, AMD parts... claims he never drops below 60fps outside on maxed settings.

The way I figure it, it will be years before a game comes out with graphics so far past Oblivion that I'll be able to tweak my settings to be that good for any future game. Or something.

I thought a simple E6300 rig with an X1900GT or whatever would have sufficed... my bad 😉
 
Interesting...

Answer the following simple question:

Can you afford to buy 2 X1900XTX to use in Crossfire mode?

Your answer will determine if you have the budget for your desired system.
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It always fun to spend some one elses money with no limit, isnt it. 😀
 
honestly i would say that ur friend must have bs'ed u (sorry to say), but if you woul check out the toms vga charts i think oblivio was added to it ull see for youselfe that that game is very very demanding.....i gues it just wasnt coded for optimizing just for visuals...that sucks :cry: ..btw there are nice games on the horizon, ill post a mini list tommorw of coupl of them in the meantime if u want to check it out check a game here at www.projectoffset.com and be amazed :wink:
 
oblivion proof pc?

and cheap?

ok heres my solution. wait a year and a half then go buy the latest midline equiptment
 
OKAY... how about a system that doesn't go below 35fps outside?

Doable? Without dual cards and all that jazz?
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With alot of tweaking to the settings and your system im sure 35FPS is very reasonable but I think maxed settings for Oblivion will bring any machine to its knee's 🙁 I play at a lower res and turn off a few things but I get decent frames out of a X1300 POS with 512MB's of video ram lol but then again I play at 1024X758 so my resolution isnt that great and I turn down things like tree's and the distance a little and and and lol I can max everything out and its a very pretty slide show !!! LOL
 
Interesting...

Answer the following simple question:

Can you afford to buy 2 X1900XTX to use in Crossfire mode?

Your answer will determine if you have the budget for your desired system.
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It always fun to spend some one elses money with no limit, isnt it. 😀

Well he does want a minimum of 60FPS in Oblivion. I am quite positive that even two X1900XTX cannot do that with max settings @ 1280 x 1024.
 
Interesting...

Answer the following simple question:

Can you afford to buy 2 X1900XTX to use in Crossfire mode?

Your answer will determine if you have the budget for your desired system.
Click to expand...


It always fun to spend some one elses money with no limit, isnt it. 😀
Well he does want a minimum of 60FPS in Oblivion. I am quite positive that even two X1900XTX cannot do that with max settings @ 1280 x 1024.
And...
Minimize cost subject to the given performance arameters.
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....he wants to save money.

A cheap system that'll run oblivion @ 60FPS
ROLF :lol: :lol:
 
well everyone is pretty much right. oblivion is a killer!
if you get a single card <79gt for nvidia or x1900 for ati>
and a dual pci-e mobo you should have great gameplay at 12x10

if you want to measure f.p.s. then you will have to use fraps
or some other tool.

either of these cards will look better than a console
and you will be to busy looking at the graphics.

i have 2 68gts in sli and the game looks awesome.
i have went back to one card becuase of heat
the game still looks the same though it is a little slower
but not much and the 79series and 1900 series cards
are much better than the 68series.

i have played oblivion on my 32inch hdtv at 1920x1080
it looks great but is a slide show same with callofduty2
thats why i went sli with the old but good but hot and power hungry 68gts
i spent only 145$ for the second 68gt just to find out that.
i cant get it to work on my 32inch tv :cry:

so im back to 1024x768
 
Minimize cost subject to the given performance arameters.
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....he wants to save money.

A cheap system that'll run oblivion @ 60FPS
ROLF :lol: :lol:

Call 1-800-ABCDEFG. They can help you with your reading comprehension problems.

Minimize cost != cheap

If it cost $3000, so be it.
 
Ok, MIN 60 fps :? . Wait till you can put in 4 7950gx2s on one mobo any you will be sweet! :lol: No current hardware will get you 60fps min, maybe average, but not min. Besides you dont need 60fps min in any game, you really only need, as you earlier said, 35fps min to get smooth gameplay. As for the monitor res, it depends if your using LCD or CRT. If your using LCD then yes keep it at 1280x1024. 6ms or less should eliminate ghosting in almost every situation. As for RAM, if your using a C2D then 667 is fine, 800 if you want. DDR2 1000 is not really neccessary for anyone except for memory benchmarks (which are not what most people buy computers for anyway). If your going AM2 then get DDR2 800 since AM2 needs the extra bandwidth for optimum performance. Might as well get an x-fi xtreme music but there are other brands than creative. The raptor will help in loading times and if you little RAM (because of swap file), but if you get 2gig or more its not going to improve your in game experience at all. Remember that windows XP only detects a max of 3.25 gig, so you will need vista (or maybe XP x64, anyone want to verify that?) to use 4gig or more.

As for being cost-efficient, in a machine that you have such high requirements for, you cant really be cost efficient. Just dont buy useless things like DDR2 1000 like I said b4.
 
Minimize cost subject to the given performance arameters.
Click to expand...
....he wants to save money.

A cheap system that'll run oblivion @ 60FPS
ROLF :lol: :lol:

Call 1-800-ABCDEFG. They can help you with your reading comprehension problems.

Minimize cost != cheap

If it cost $3000, so be it.
It might cost you more than that... depends if you buy a $900 monitor and if you go SLI/Crossfire with top-end cards and an FX-62 or C2D x6800.
 
Minimize cost subject to the given performance arameters.
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....he wants to save money.

A cheap system that'll run oblivion @ 60FPS
ROLF :lol: :lol:

Call 1-800-ABCDEFG. They can help you with your reading comprehension problems.

Minimize cost != cheap
If it cost $3000, so be it.


You're right, minimize cost != cheap, but it certainly does imply just that.
If cost is no object, then say, cost is no object or not a concern, not minimize cost.

Additonally, it would be a lot easier for people to help you if you gave some kind of figure, even just ballpark. It wouldnt please anyone to spend time pricing out a system for you, only to have you reply, "I didnt want to spend that much", or, "I was thinking more along the lines of 2/3$x"

A lot of folks here would be more than happy to help. but you need to help them a little: Give a price range :wink:
 
Ok, MIN 60 fps :? . Wait till you can put in 4 7950gx2s on one mobo any you will be sweet! :lol: No current hardware will get you 60fps min, maybe average, but not min. Besides you dont need 60fps min in any game, you really only need, as you earlier said, 35fps min to get smooth gameplay. As for the monitor res, it depends if your using LCD or CRT. If your using LCD then yes keep it at 1280x1024. 6ms or less should eliminate ghosting in almost every situation. As for RAM, if your using a C2D then 667 is fine, 800 if you want. DDR2 1000 is not really neccessary for anyone except for memory benchmarks (which are not what most people buy computers for anyway). If your going AM2 then get DDR2 800 since AM2 needs the extra bandwidth for optimum performance. Might as well get an x-fi xtreme music but there are other brands than creative. The raptor will help in loading times and if you little RAM (because of swap file), but if you get 2gig or more its not going to improve your in game experience at all. Remember that windows XP only detects a max of 3.25 gig, so you will need vista (or maybe XP x64, anyone want to verify that?) to use 4gig or more.

As for being cost-efficient, in a machine that you have such high requirements for, you cant really be cost efficient. Just dont buy useless things like DDR2 1000 like I said b4.
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best post ever. thanks. 8)
 
You're right, minimize cost != cheap, but it certainly does imply just that.
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Think of the Lagrangian function F(P, λ) = f(P) - λ g(P); I would like to minimize something given certain constraints.

Additonally, it would be a lot easier for people to help you if you gave some kind of figure, even just ballpark.
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If it will help, I was already looking at systems coming in at about $2500 without a monitor through Dell.
 
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