[SOLVED] Advice for building a adobe suite/ gaming computer.

[sirrodicus]

Hello, this is my first time posting here because I want some advice on upgrading my current computer. I think I want to replace just about everything. But it also might not be necessary.
I'm currently running a core i5 4690k with a gtx 970 and 16gb of ram. I have a 500gb boot ssd and a 1tb wd black hard drive. The system has served me well ever since I build it in high school. However, I've noticed that it's starting to chug. I had to replace the motherboard about a year ago when my Asrock died. It's getting slower to boot, which isn't a world ender. I need to run everything at 1080p medium. But everything runs fine at those settings so it's not the worst. Though I do have a 1440p monitor and I would like to take advantage of it. Cyberpunk just outright didn't function.
Where I'm really noticing things are starting to slow significantly is in programs like photoshop and clip studio paint. And it's done for if I have multiple large files open in different programs. I work on big canvases and using large size brushes at my preferred resolution just isn't possible, it's too laggy. I'm not a full-blown professional yet I'm a student but I figure if I build a powerhouse it will last me through school and a good number of years into my career.
I'm thinking of either a core i7 10700k or i9 10850k. Something with a lot of cores apparently my programs like that, and you can't get a hold of AMD right now. An RTX 3070 or 3060 ti, I'm in EVGA's queue for either one right now. And 32gb of ram. Also ideally I'd get more storage and have it all be SSD of some form. It's faster and quieter I'm a silence freak.
I just don't know if it's necessary. I'm mostly fine with how my current system runs games, and I'm a semi-light gamer. It's my programs that I'm not happy with. However, this is all a lot of money so I figured I get some advice. Thoughts?
Oh, I also forgot to add that I'm having a hard time choosing the form factor. My current system is micro atx but no one really makes stuff for it anymore. I'm thinking about itx but I'm worried about its constraints. While a mid-tower I'm not sure I want such a big box.

 

[mdd1963]

I'd likely be investigating R9-5900X performance (on a quality X570 board) in the use cases you mentioned; for apps that can use multithreading, certainly 12 strong cores/24 threads (that also game well !) should easily last you another nice healthy time gap before needing an upgrade again....(Naturally, a nice Samsung 980 EVO or similar should be a nice 10X performance boost in sequential reads/writes over standard SATA SSD)

 

[Bob.B]

Hello, this is my first time posting here because I want some advice on upgrading my current computer. I think I want to replace just about everything. But it also might not be necessary.
I'm currently running a core i5 4690k with a gtx 970 and 16gb of ram. I have a 500gb boot ssd and a 1tb wd black hard drive. The system has served me well ever since I build it in high school. However, I've noticed that it's starting to chug. I had to replace the motherboard about a year ago when my Asrock died. It's getting slower to boot, which isn't a world ender. I need to run everything at 1080p medium. But everything runs fine at those settings so it's not the worst. Though I do have a 1440p monitor and I would like to take advantage of it. Cyberpunk just outright didn't function.
Where I'm really noticing things are starting to slow significantly is in programs like photoshop and clip studio paint. And it's done for if I have multiple large files open in different programs. I work on big canvases and using large size brushes at my preferred resolution just isn't possible, it's too laggy. I'm not a full-blown professional yet I'm a student but I figure if I build a powerhouse it will last me through school and a good number of years into my career.
I'm thinking of either a core i7 10700k or i9 10850k. Something with a lot of cores apparently my programs like that, and you can't get a hold of AMD right now. An RTX 3070 or 3060 ti, I'm in EVGA's queue for either one right now. And 32gb of ram. Also ideally I'd get more storage and have it all be SSD of some form. It's faster and quieter I'm a silence freak.
I just don't know if it's necessary. I'm mostly fine with how my current system runs games, and I'm a semi-light gamer. It's my programs that I'm not happy with. However, this is all a lot of money so I figured I get some advice. Thoughts?
Oh, I also forgot to add that I'm having a hard time choosing the form factor. My current system is micro atx but no one really makes stuff for it anymore. I'm thinking about itx but I'm worried about its constraints. While a mid-tower I'm not sure I want such a big box.

Build in sections.

Case.....mid tower.....you'll need the space for parts and think of the heat.
Mobo......something that supports the cpu.
Cpu......either one you mentioned.
Ram.....2x16GB.
Psu.....quality 750w......should cover most gpu you might get.

Next section.......either the gpu or disk.

Last section.....whatever you missed in the 'next section'.

 

[sirrodicus]

Build in sections.

Case.....mid tower.....you'll need the space for parts and think of the heat.
Mobo......something that supports the cpu.
Cpu......either one you mentioned.
Ram.....2x16GB.
Psu.....quality 750w......should cover most gpu you might get.

Next section.......either the gpu or disk.

Last section.....whatever you missed in the 'next section'.

Sounds good. I already have a Corsair rm 750 in my system. It's a yellow label around 5 years old. Do you think I should replace this just because of age or is it fine to use it again?

 

[sirrodicus]

I'd likely be investigating R9-5900X performance (on a quality X570 board) in the use cases you mentioned; for apps that can use multithreading, certainly 12 strong cores/24 threads (that also game well !) should easily last you another nice healthy time gap before needing an upgrade again....(Naturally, a nice Samsung 980 EVO or similar should be a nice 10X performance boost in sequential reads/writes over standard SATA SSD)

Alright. I have two concerns with AMD. The first one is compatibility, though I honestly kinda doubt this is still an issue. The second one is availability. They're kinda impossible to find rn and no one is doing something like what EVGA is doing for their cards with a queue system, I might have to wait a few months but at least I know I can get my hands on a 3070. Also, do you know if a 3070 or 3060ti would bottleneck with a 5900x and what type of cooling does that thing need?

 

[Why_Me]

I'd do this: wait until next month when Intel releases the new Rocket Lake (11th gen. cpu's) so you get native support for 3200MHz RAM, PCIe 4, and improved IPC.

Go with a B560 board ... I'll use these ones for an example but more of these B560 boards from all board manufactures are showing up on websites every few days now.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560 Steel Legend/index.asp
ASRock B560 Steel Legend

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B560-TORPEDO
MSI MAG B560 TORPEDO

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B560-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE B560 AORUS PRO AX (rev. 1.0)

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B560-PLUS/
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know
11th gen. Intel Rocket Lake cpu's

And for RAM I'd go with 3200MHz CL16.

For 1080p the RTX 3060 Ti is the obvious choice.

 

[sirrodicus]

I'd do this: wait until next month when Intel releases the new Rocket Lake (11th gen. cpu's) so you get native support for 3200MHz RAM, PCIe 4, and improved IPC.

Go with a B560 board ... I'll use these ones for an example but more of these B560 boards from all board manufactures are showing up on websites every few days now.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560 Steel Legend/index.asp
ASRock B560 Steel Legend

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B560-TORPEDO
MSI MAG B560 TORPEDO

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B560-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE B560 AORUS PRO AX (rev. 1.0)

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B560-PLUS/
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know
11th gen. Intel Rocket Lake cpu's

And for RAM I'd go with 3200MHz CL16.

For 1080p the RTX 3060 Ti is the obvious choice.

Sounds good. Is there anywhere I can find out exactly when they'll release? I'm guessing getting my hands on rocket lake isn't going to be easy.

 

[Why_Me]

Sounds good. Is there anywhere I can find out exactly when they'll release? I'm guessing getting my hands on rocket lake isn't going to be easy.

Rocket Lake is scheduled for release towards the end of next month. Unlike AMD, Intel isn't suffering from a shortage of chips tmk.

 

[sirrodicus]

Rocket Lake is scheduled for release towards the end of next month. Unlike AMD, Intel isn't suffering from a shortage of chips tmk.

guess that's the luxury of being the size of Intel. And everyone wanting to get AMD.

 

[Bob.B]

Sounds good. I already have a Corsair rm 750 in my system. It's a yellow label around 5 years old. Do you think I should replace this just because of age or is it fine to use it again?

Flip a coin...................if you decide to reuse at least give the psu a good blow out with some compressed air......both directions........it's probably filled with dust.