Reynod :
Any more complaints about the Mantle badge will result in all the regular posters here getting a Cyrix badge ... or possiby two even.
Not much of a threat to me. I still have a Cyrix 486DX in a box somewhere.
juanrga :
jimmysmitty :
Mobile gaming? Really? How does that even equate compared to what were are talking about with Windows vs Linux? I don't consider phones a proper gaming platform.
Mobile gaming is an important and rising market.
Android exists outside of phones and Intel has already stated its desire of scaling it up to desktops.
jimmysmitty :
Developers don't know more than hardware vendors do. NVidia would know more than say EA.
They known what they want from an API. In fact the talk about DX12 given by Microsoft at GDC started with
You asked us to bring you even closer to the metal and to do so on an unparalleled assortment of hardware. You also asked us for better tools so that you can squeeze every last drop of performance out of your PC, tablet, phone and console. Come learn our plans to deliver.
"You" = "developers".
Pay also attention to Microsoft mentioning phones.
jimmysmitty :
And I know what Gabe Newell did. It is one of the reasons I idolize him. He took the most popular (at the time) game and ported it to Windows and made Windows a major gaming platform.
And he is doing now the same with linux... well, to be accurate, He is doing much more now with Steam machines.
jimmysmitty :
The Start Menu is what everyone has been whining about. And other than that Windows 8 is a great improvement over 7.
7 was barely acceptable but 8 is pure junk for me.
I honestly do not consider mobile gaming the same. If we are talking gaming it is not the same.
As for Steam Boxes, they are great because it does not require proprietary hardware or the OS itself. You can buy a pre built Steam Box and use Windows or build a custom PC and throw SteamOS on it.
In the end it is the same reason why AMD, NVidia or Intel use certaing benchmarks to show what they want, to get sales. VALVe is pushing into as many markets as they can. There are people on Linux and Appl that want to game but no company really supports it. VALVe is doing so. Why is Steam worth $2 billion a year? VALVe is a privately owned company with a genius, Gabe, for knowing trends and creating success. Look at VALVes game catalogue, almost every one is alauded for how great they are. Half Life is considered the changing point for FPS. Portal was considered one of the best games ever made for its simplicity. They focus on gamers and know there are gamers everywhere. Does that mean they think Windows is going to be ditched or become a non gaming platform? no. Just that they want to be in as many markets as possible. Steams competition, EAs Origin, is nowhere near as diverse and well done.
And I think I am pretty much done with you. If you think 7 is barely passable then there is nothing MS could do that is good to you. Sorry but XP is old, has a ton of flaws and needs to be removed from most PCs connected to the internet. 7 was a great improvement over it.
logainofhades :
Windows 8 growth is worse than Vista's was. That is pretty much Mistake Edition 2.0 in my book. Not a single person I have talked to, personally, that has Win 8 likes it.
Most people at my previous job like it and realize they barely used the start menu. I have met multiple IT people who like it.
I had a friend who didn't like it then tried it and enjoyed it afterwards.
You also need to rewrite your book. ME didn't fail because it was a bad OS with a changed GUI but because it was buggy, insecure and crashed like crazy. As for the growth, do you have any numbers to back that up? From what I can see 8 is growing ok but I have read a few articles that use page hits as a way to estimate how many are 7/8/XP etc.
On Steams Hardware survey, 8 outweighs XP and Vista combined at over 20% there so it looks like gamers are fine with 8 so far. Vista never really had a massive growth on Steam like 7 did.
juanrga :
jdwii :
logainofhades :
Windows 8 growth is worse than Vista's was. That is pretty much Mistake Edition 2.0 in my book. Not a single person I have talked to, personally, that has Win 8 likes it.
I use it on my laptop and desktop i rarely use the start menu and when i have to it drives me insane that it takes over my whole screen, WTF that is not multitasking. I find the 8 start menu block looking and outdated looks so ugly to me, the good news is 8 is faster than 7 more so on AMD APU's and i love the new task messenger and some other features 8 has such as a native ISO reader. I ran several benchmarks across 8 and the latest ubuntu and i see barley any benefit in performance on linux probably 5% or less. I also use ubuntu and i still have to use the terminal to install some programs seems way to outdated in 2014.
Any person who I allowed to use Windows 8 laughed at that toy. I also laughed. It looks as if it was made for simple kids to play with.
Also Ubuntu is bloatware. It is far from representative of linux performance.
The majority of consumers who buy PCs are not like us. We know what we know because we are enthusiasts. We have systems that are more powerful than the rest of our families systems combined. Do you think they need a complicated OS like Linux that requires advanced command line input without a GUI to install drivers? Or would a more simplified OS be better for some guy who has no clue what the difference between RAM and hard drive space is?
A good company will focus on the major market while still supporting the sub markets. 8, while being simplified in the start menu, still has the same desktop but much more advanced tools in the background, like the Task Manager or the new file transfer system.
Honestly, I don't like Metro and I don't use any apps. Of course I know how to go in and change all those settings. But rather than moan about changes that will eventually happen with or without our support I move on that way I know how to use the OS and have an advantage in the field. While I knew a lot of techs who were great with XP, they didn't know much about Vista or 7 when they came out. They didn't know how to do what they should have. Same with 8.
logainofhades :
jdwii :
logainofhades :
Windows 8 growth is worse than Vista's was. That is pretty much Mistake Edition 2.0 in my book. Not a single person I have talked to, personally, that has Win 8 likes it.
I use it on my laptop and desktop i rarely use the start menu and when i have to it drives me insane that it takes over my whole screen, WTF that is not multitasking. I find the 8 start menu block looking and outdated looks so ugly to me, the good news is 8 is faster than 7 more so on AMD APU's and i love the new task messenger and some other features 8 has such as a native ISO reader. I ran several benchmarks across 8 and the latest ubuntu and i see barley any benefit in performance on linux probably 5% or less. I also use ubuntu and i still have to use the terminal to install some programs seems way to outdated in 2014.
I prefer 3rd party programs to just about anything that M$ includes. The only thing I use Media player for is to rip CD's. I use the built utility to burn an ISO to a disk. That is about as far as my M$ included crap goes. I use WinRar for opening an ISO, and I use VLC player for music and video.
He is talking about the built in virtual DVD drive in 8. All you do is double click a .ISO and it mounts it.
As well 8 natively supports Hyper-V and reading VHD, 7 does not.
That is why I just laugh at comments like "8 is just a tablet OS on desktop" or the above, "looks like a childs toy" when 8 has more advanced features than 7. And this is on 8 or 8 Pro.
It is honestly funny how little people know about Windows 8 beyond Metro.