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It's good their keeping things secret, Id rather they did then release benchmarks and all to keep the audience anticipated. If you think AMD only rebrand for long time periods well maybe you should rethink that again, Nvidia tend to rebrand and modify, or just rebrand and cut some cores out and sell it for a bit less, or just put $2000 on a dual GPU'd graphics card that performs worse then one for $1000 from AMD.
 


sometimes that can backfired. last time they did it with 290X not even their board partner know much about it. and because of that non reference take months to come out. and that reference cooler on 290X/290 give the card quite a trouble.



except NVidia did not go as far as what AMD did with R 200 series. Titan Z pricing indeed absurd but that just NVidia want to play around with the market. to see how crazy they can go with the price and see consumer reaction. if there are price war NVidia can sustain that much longer than AMD can afford to. I've already seen this happening during Fermi vs 5k & 6k series. they can go into price war mode anytime but they just simply chose to maximize their profit instead.
 
Im referring to what is released to the public and not partners, just because information is not fed to the public doesn't mean that the partners are left with next to nothing as well. Gigabyte seemed to launch their aftermarket cooled R9 290X pretty quick which would say to me that AMD did not keep information secret from partners until the last minute. As you have said they can go into price wars but they usually don't, that's the key here. My point was not that Nvidia rebranded more, it was the fact that they do rebrand lots of their cards.
 
AMD Confirms GCN Cards Don't Feature Full DirectX 12 Support - Feature Level 11_1 on GCN 1.0, Feature Level 12_0 on GCN 1.1/1.2
http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-gcn-cards-feature-full-directx-12-support-feature-level-111-gcn-10-feature-level-120-gcn-1112/
the title is wccfly misleading. expect nvidia to take advantage of this in days to come. this and of the allegation that thermaltake plagiarized case and other stuff design. because both amd and tt use red color as theme, geddit? :pt1cable:
 
Well, it's not usually a problem when nVidia doesn't have full feature set, because they somehow spin it as "irrrelevant", but in the case of AMD... Damn... I'm counting the days until nVidia's marketing dept starts making a fuzz about feature sets and how the holy grail is under DX12.1 where all devs will find Nirvana.

It has happened before. Can't remember with what extension set... I think it was T&L back in the day when moving from DX7 to DX8/8.1...

Cheers!

EDIT: Typo.
 
it'll go like this:

website: amd doesn't support direct x 12-1 and -2 features yet pseudo-supports direct x 12.

fanboys, b.e.n.t.s (barely educated n****a t****s (<- self-censored!)), Promo SLIde SLIngers (sounds like a character from mad max, but it isn't :pt1cable:) and the like: that website is one of the most trustworthy websites in the history of internet and always publishes unbiased articles. down with amd, another mild disappointment!

forums: gtx 980ti with it's premium ttylkthxbai cooler supports dx12-1,-2,-3,-4 it's futureproof for two years and has squeaky clean drivers. none of the amd cards support dx12. efficiency! flame on!

reality: rebadged cards like the 370 et al can't support dx12 features like volume tiled resources, r.o.v. assisted somthingsomething. they just can't. those cards are old as !@#$, in terms of technology aging. afaik only fiji-powered cards may support them, it's not yet clear. however, all of amd's GCN based cards (and igpus) can support priliminary dx 12 features. when displayport 1.3 launches, all of these cards will be worthless. sorta.
 
I'm nearly entirely sure you've already seen it, but I've just caught a peek so I thought I'd share it with you:
The [strike]Sapphire[/strike] Powercolor Radeon R9 390X
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I don't like all that plastic on top of it, but it is nice to see the tubes of the liquid cooling thingy popping out of it.

And where did you find it? I haven't seen that picture before, to be honest.

Cheers!
 
I don't understand German, but I think you'd like to take a look here.

Sorry, some said Sapphire, but it seems it's by POWERCOLOR. It features 1x8PIN & 1x6PIN PCIExpress connectors.
And I personally don't enjoy having to keep my GPU watercooled like that because CFX would be a freaking nightmare. I suppose they'll release CFX packs or something with 2 cards on a single, bigger radiator. In before I say it's simply pathetic to see they need water cooling to achieve that level of performance, I must say I really hope they bring up something INCREDIBLY, AMAZINGLY BLAZINGLY fast. Becuase otherwise, they'll look bad compared to nVidia - who isn't even using fans - they use blowers and still manage to keep stuff in check. I really want AMD to shine with this R9 390X, despite its price tag.

Also, what I do find strange is the port set-up - Dual DVI, HDMI and DispalyPort. For me that would be awesome, but I thought these cards were going all-digital and compact with 3xDP and HDMI maybe.
Another thing is the length of the card - they said they'd be using HBM, which should've reduced the card's overall length - something that doesn't seem to be the case with this card.
 
Are you sure that's a 390X and not some flavor of the FURY? If it is the 390X indeed, it is either foolish to believe people will want water for performance that is comparable to what nV can do on air, or it is a very fast card indeed.

Or it's a FURY... Which would make a lot more sense, especially given that the VRAM is on die. You would have the fan cooling the VRMs and the water cooling both the GPU and the VRAM. Smoooooooooth! 😀

Also, the stated problem with multi-GPU setups is very real. A lot of people like to purchase one card, wait a year, then buy another when the new gen is released, get the lower price, and remain at the top of the heap in terms of performance. But doing that with watercooled cards would be risky at best... Think water pipes too long or too short, and now what are you gonna do?
 


Bloody hell, that thing is huge. Ugly too. It must be a beast to warrant that monstrosity.
 
Be it nvidia or AMD when they don't have the feature they will sing 'it's not really important' to the public. If you want something that have complete feature set for DX12 just wait for true (16nm) next gen part from both camp. That's why i end up getting 960 replacing my 660 SLI as a place holder waiting for 16nm gpu to come out.
 
When they do a close up of the Video card, inside the german video, this code pops up: LF R29FA, Ver: 1.0, 4GB (*) 8GB (_)

That makes it sounds like the AIB might belong to a 290X instead. That would also explain the size of the card.

There's also this link: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=26900763

My intuition tells me that's a very special edition 290X from PowerColor using, ironically, cheaper components than the original ref. design board.

Cheers!
 
If any of the stuff WCCFTech talks about is true(it's not always the case), then it's gonna be quite interesting to see those little 4GB of HBM capable of 512GB/s vs 8GB of GDDR5 outputting 384GB/s. I know it's gonna depend on how much VRAM the game actually requires, the resolution you're playing at and so on...but nevertheless it's gonna be interesting. I for one could care less about HBM if GDDR5 turns out to be better for the current landscape - multi-monitor gaming, 4K, tons of filters and all that - again - who gives a damn if it's just the first generation and if there are any specific limitations - if I'm not getting what I want, they're not getting my money. Period.

It's also interesting because nVidia has already released what last time seemed to be the response to AMD's flagship - this translates into giving AMD the opportunity to fine-tune their cards to be faster than the 980Ti at a lower / similar price.
 
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