- Feb 19, 2004
- 183
- 0
- 18,680
AMD shamed
- Thread starter intelamduser
- Start date
easyg
Distinguished
- Apr 10, 2007
- 135
- 0
- 18,680
The funny part is you woulda thought they'd have checked the figures before publishing them in a recent WSJ ad.
Even before George Ou and the gang at ZDNet started pointing out that these were bogus numbers, people on this forum saw that there were some real problems with the published specs. Wtg guys.
Maybe we'll get some real benchies now.
- Feb 19, 2004
- 183
- 0
- 18,680
Almost all companies will skew the facts in order to paint as rosy of a picture as possible, just go to a new car lot and look at the MPG on a new vehicle. I saw a new Ford superduty claiming 18mpg, the only way one of those beasts get this kind of milage is coasting downhill half of the time.
What is so bad about this is the big deal AMD made about how Intel was skewing facts and that AMD is so moraly superior that they would never do such a thing.
There are no benchmarks available even for the 2ghz Barc. Something is fishy but the truth will come out.
What is so bad about this is the big deal AMD made about how Intel was skewing facts and that AMD is so moraly superior that they would never do such a thing.
There are no benchmarks available even for the 2ghz Barc. Something is fishy but the truth will come out.
ElMoIsEviL
Distinguished
- Jan 10, 2006
- 2,361
- 1
- 19,965
No one bashed AMD. People just pointed out the Hypocracy, lies and made up information. That's all.
MU_Engineer
Splendid
- Feb 18, 2006
- 3,866
- 4
- 23,165
I don't think so. A lot of people who own C2Ds are not fanboys at all. Some even are AMD backers that simply want something that AMD does not offer, like a UP four-core setup or a low-voltage mobile CPU in a thin-and-light computer.
I'm glad that my new laptop I just ordered came with one as a 10-watt U7500 will run far cooler and run longer on a battery than any Turion 64/Turion 64 X2 will, while weighing less as well. I'm also very pleased with the performance of my X2 4200+ desktop and the fact that I was able to get a good dual PCIe x16 motherboard for a mere $110, something that's almost impossible to find with Intel boards. There are advantages and disadvantages to each makers' CPUs- get what works well for you and realize that it might not be the best for everybody else, too.
You need some fresh air, bud. Badly. Roll the chair away from the keyboard, walk out of the room and lock the door. Go do something physical like run five miles. Then come back when you're feeling better.
[/quote]
You need some fresh air, bud. Badly. Roll the chair away from the keyboard, walk out of the room and lock the door. Go do something physical like run five miles. Then come back when you're feeling better.[/quote]
No no no! You're going about it all wrong! First you have to offer payment...
BTW I purchased an EVGA 680i for my son 2 months ago for $112 w/shipping from newegg.
You need some fresh air, bud. Badly. Roll the chair away from the keyboard, walk out of the room and lock the door. Go do something physical like run five miles. Then come back when you're feeling better.[/quote]
No no no! You're going about it all wrong! First you have to offer payment...
BTW I purchased an EVGA 680i for my son 2 months ago for $112 w/shipping from newegg.
caamsa
Distinguished
- Apr 25, 2006
- 1,830
- 0
- 19,810
Well, I don't think anyone would be making a big deal about this if it wasn't for the fact that AMD made a big fuss about Intel publishing skewed numbers.
Again do we really know they are skewed? It aint over till the fat lady sings or at least AMD releases their new CPU's and they are put to the test. Don't count your chickens before they hatch can be used both ways here.
I don't see any AMD bashing here but it is kinda like a bunch of old ladies reading the national enquirer and then taking about what kind of trouble their favorite celebrity has gotten into this week.
- Feb 19, 2004
- 183
- 0
- 18,680
AMD bashed themselves, this has nothing to do with who owns what or likes what. AMD misrepresented their product by maufacturing information which is totaly false.
Maybe some of you care who is on top, 99% of world could care much less and are only looking for a bargain.
So in you way of thinking it's okay whan a company basically lies and misrepresents their product. Then when someone points this out they are supporting another companies product by doing so. Twisted, but it actaully shows either a lack of comprehension or probably just sour grapes.
Maybe some of you care who is on top, 99% of world could care much less and are only looking for a bargain.
So in you way of thinking it's okay whan a company basically lies and misrepresents their product. Then when someone points this out they are supporting another companies product by doing so. Twisted, but it actaully shows either a lack of comprehension or probably just sour grapes.
- Feb 19, 2004
- 183
- 0
- 18,680
clairvoyant129
Distinguished
- May 27, 2006
- 164
- 0
- 18,680
Nice, assuming that everyone who is critical of AMD's recent behaviors as "C2D owners." It's fanpois like you that make me sick.
And as a defense for C2D owners, have fun with your hot power hogging CPU.
MU_Engineer
Splendid
- Feb 18, 2006
- 3,866
- 4
- 23,165
I got my board about a year and a half ago, when the 975X or the obscure NForce 4 SLi for Intel were the only 2x PCIe x16 boards on the market. I like the extra slots as my GPU goes in one and I can put an x4 or x8 SATA controller for a disk array in the other without paying a bunch for a server motherboard. Even a decent UP server board is generally $200 or more.
MU_Engineer
Splendid
- Feb 18, 2006
- 3,866
- 4
- 23,165
And as a defense for C2D owners, have fun with your hot power hogging CPU.
The F3 6000+ is the one odd duck out in the AMD line. The rest don't run hot at all and the 45-watt BE series is much cooler than any Core 2 Duo. AMD does plan to release an 89 watt 6000+ shortly, so that should take care of some of the heat issue. My question is will they use the little bit of headroom and make a 3.2 GHz X2 6400+/FX-76/Opteron {1|2|8}224 SE at 125 watts until K10 ships?
dewaltracing
Distinguished
- Jun 18, 2007
- 14
- 0
- 18,510
It is no big surprise that AMD lied just like Intel. It is what big business does every damn day. I do not care what company it is. They all do it to some degree or another.
- Feb 19, 2004
- 183
- 0
- 18,680
Do you believe everything you read...........
After reading this board for the last few years I suppose not, go back and read the artcle AMD admitted they used bad numbers.
After reading this board for the last few years I suppose not, go back and read the artcle AMD admitted they used bad numbers.
easyg
Distinguished
- Apr 10, 2007
- 135
- 0
- 18,680
Even some tech guys who should've known better were fooled. Check just a sampling of the retractions that came out yesterday:
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/12805
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07/04/early_barcelona_performance_looks_good/1
Embarassing. Not just for AMD, but for every news outlet that reported these "benchies" as if they were the Gospel truth.
JAYDEEJOHN
Champion
- Aug 23, 2006
- 19,840
- 0
- 50,860
Which will only alienate those writers/pubs . Just what AMD needs.... I can do better, and thats no lie. I know theyre under alot of pressure right now, Ive been in similar situation. They need to hold their heads up and be more confident. Beating Intel really shouldnt be the issue here as far as AMD goes, just be competitive. Id like to know whos doing/allowing this crap to happen, and dont blame the usual suspects, ala Henri et al, tho at this point if I was Henri et al Id be on it like a nice babe. No more of this AMD, please
ZOldDude
Distinguished
- Apr 22, 2006
- 1,251
- 1
- 19,280
Who cares.
In the long run people buy what they need when they are ready to buy.
Fastest aside the best bang for the buck right now is an AMD system.
I just did an upgrad for a guy this week to a Optron server CPU with 2 cores for $169 (price/tax/shipping) that runs @ 3Ghz at a 1:1 ratio.
He could have not just upgraded but spent a ton on parts for the worlds fastest....all the same to me as I still get my $60 per hour.
Every 3-5 years when people upgrade they go for the best they can afford.
Not one of us here does not wish we could have built what we have now....at the prices we could get it for 6-12 months later.
Given the long viewpoint I will be buying another 1K shares of AMD Friday (in about 6 hours).
In 18 months (give or take) I may sale them and buy another low priced and soon to move stock.
More like they will be sold in a week though.
If it only goes up $1 in six months and I sale I will have made more than any CD or Fund by a longshot if you get the idea.
I buy/sale a few stocks each week in lots of 1K (broker charges $7 per 1k moved) and live on that very well.
Really....those who are always saying how "bad" off one company or another is are the same people who never get any value when they buy or invest.
If your just looking to sink some money into a longer term stock YUM is solid.
People buy ALOT of pizza,chicken and Pepsi.
Z
In the long run people buy what they need when they are ready to buy.
Fastest aside the best bang for the buck right now is an AMD system.
I just did an upgrad for a guy this week to a Optron server CPU with 2 cores for $169 (price/tax/shipping) that runs @ 3Ghz at a 1:1 ratio.
He could have not just upgraded but spent a ton on parts for the worlds fastest....all the same to me as I still get my $60 per hour.
Every 3-5 years when people upgrade they go for the best they can afford.
Not one of us here does not wish we could have built what we have now....at the prices we could get it for 6-12 months later.
Given the long viewpoint I will be buying another 1K shares of AMD Friday (in about 6 hours).
In 18 months (give or take) I may sale them and buy another low priced and soon to move stock.
More like they will be sold in a week though.
If it only goes up $1 in six months and I sale I will have made more than any CD or Fund by a longshot if you get the idea.
I buy/sale a few stocks each week in lots of 1K (broker charges $7 per 1k moved) and live on that very well.
Really....those who are always saying how "bad" off one company or another is are the same people who never get any value when they buy or invest.
If your just looking to sink some money into a longer term stock YUM is solid.
People buy ALOT of pizza,chicken and Pepsi.
Z
Jizumonkey
Distinguished
- Oct 9, 2006
- 137
- 0
- 18,680
Someone touch a nerve per chance lol
Bitterness is all I can say. People who are smart (unlike fanboys like you) buy whatever is the best deal in terms of price and performance at a given time...sorry you feel so bad because it's not an AMD.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Review Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 Founders Edition review: Incremental gains over the previous generation- Started by Admin
- Replies: 161
-
News Nvidia's RTX 50-series drivers feel half-baked, focus too much on MFG
- Started by Admin
- Replies: 7
-
News Reviewer reports RTX 5080 FE instability — PCIe 5.0 signal integrity likely the culprit
- Started by Admin
- Replies: 56
-
News Trump to impose 25% to 100% tariffs on Taiwan-made chips, impacting TSMC
- Started by Admin
- Replies: 37
-
-
Review Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition review: Blackwell commences its reign with a few stumbles
- Started by Admin
- Replies: 226
-
Question So i just upgraded my 1060 to a 3060 but it feels like a downgrade.- Started by AriArctic
- Replies: 2
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram