Baldurs Gate 1 Character question

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I started playing the Baldurs Gate Saga with an elven ranger - planning
to advance to Ranger 5 and then multiclassing to achieve Ranger 5 / Mage
9 the maximum Baldurs Gate with Tales of the Swordcoast allows with the
161000 XP cap.

However before I venture beyond the 1st chapter I would like to verify
that I actually can do that in the game.

Is it possibly to change classes in the game for an elf - or do I need
to select only from the multiclassing options presented at character
creation, e.g. Fighter/Mage?

It would be a great waste of time to advance to Ranger 5 only to see
that I can´t advance the next level as Mage and would be stuck with only
Ranger.
bye
Michael

 

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"Michael Romes" <NetterNachbar6@lycos.de> wrote in message
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> I started playing the Baldurs Gate Saga with an elven ranger -
planning
> to advance to Ranger 5 and then multiclassing to achieve Ranger 5 /
Mage
> 9 the maximum Baldurs Gate with Tales of the Swordcoast allows with
the
> 161000 XP cap.
>
> However before I venture beyond the 1st chapter I would like to
verify
> that I actually can do that in the game.
>
> Is it possibly to change classes in the game for an elf - or do I
need
> to select only from the multiclassing options presented at character
> creation, e.g. Fighter/Mage?
>
> It would be a great waste of time to advance to Ranger 5 only to see
> that I can´t advance the next level as Mage and would be stuck with
only
> Ranger.

Non-human characters cannot play two classes unless they play them
*simultaneously* - which is called Multi-classing.

Human characters cannot play two classes unless they play them *one at
a time*, which is called Dual-classing.

Furthermore, the only valid Dual-class combinations (for humans,
changing from one class to another) are those which would also be
legal as a two-class Multi-class (for non-humans, playing as both
classes simultaneously). That is to say, if one of your classes is
Ranger, you can only change classes to Cleric or dual-class with
Cleric. If you want to change to a Mage from a fighter-type, you have
to start with a standard Fighter.

Legal "class-change" combinations are:

Fighter, with Mage, Thief, Druid or Cleric

Ranger, with Cleric only.

Cleric, with Fighter, Ranger, Thief or Mage

Druid, with Fighter only.

Thief, with Fighter, Mage or Cleric

Mage, with Fighter, Thief or Cleric

Paladins and Bards cannot multi-class or dual-class at all, EVER UNDER
ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

Non-human multi-class characters can have two possible combinations of
triple-class: Fighter/Mage/Cleric and Fighter/Mage/Thief.

So, I reckon your best bets would be either:

Elven Fighter/Mage

or

Human Fighter, get up to level 5, change to Mage. You will need
Strength 15 and Intelligence 17 to be allowed this.

Jonathan.

 

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Michael Romes wrote:
> I started playing the Baldurs Gate Saga with an elven ranger - planning
> to advance to Ranger 5 and then multiclassing to achieve Ranger 5 / Mage
> 9 the maximum Baldurs Gate with Tales of the Swordcoast allows with the
> 161000 XP cap.
>
> However before I venture beyond the 1st chapter I would like to verify
> that I actually can do that in the game.

No.

> Is it possibly to change classes in the game for an elf - or do I need
> to select only from the multiclassing options presented at character
> creation, e.g. Fighter/Mage?

Only humans can dual-class--start with one class and then change to
another--and rangers can only dual-class to clerics.

 

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Jonathan Ellis schrieb:
....
> Non-human characters cannot play two classes unless they play them
> *simultaneously* - which is called Multi-classing.

So an elf could not start as Fighter, advance 5 levels and then add Mage
to achieve the maximum levels under the 161000 XP limit of Fighter 5/
Mage 9, but has to select Fighter/Mage as multiclass from the very start?

Where would I end in levels with the 161000 XP limit of the add-on as
multiclassed elven Fighter/Mage?

....

> Non-human multi-class characters can have two possible combinations of
> triple-class: Fighter/Mage/Cleric and Fighter/Mage/Thief.

But with 3 classes and the 161000 XP limit they could never achieve
level 9 in any class?
bye
Michael

 

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Michael Romes wrote:

> So an elf could not start as Fighter, advance 5 levels and then add Mage
> to achieve the maximum levels under the 161000 XP limit of Fighter 5/
> Mage 9, but has to select Fighter/Mage as multiclass from the very start?
>
> Where would I end in levels with the 161000 XP limit of the add-on as
> multiclassed elven Fighter/Mage?

80,500 XP in each class, so levels 7/7.

>> Non-human multi-class characters can have two possible combinations of
>> triple-class: Fighter/Mage/Cleric and Fighter/Mage/Thief.
>
>
> But with 3 classes and the 161000 XP limit they could never achieve
> level 9 in any class?

Not in BG1. The fighter/wizard/cleric would reach levels 6/6/6, the
fighter/wizard/thief would reach levels 6/6/7.

 

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"Kish" <Kish_K@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Romes wrote:
>
>> So an elf could not start as Fighter, advance 5 levels and then add Mage
>> to achieve the maximum levels under the 161000 XP limit of Fighter 5/
>> Mage 9, but has to select Fighter/Mage as multiclass from the very start?
>>
>> Where would I end in levels with the 161000 XP limit of the add-on as
>> multiclassed elven Fighter/Mage?
>
> 80,500 XP in each class, so levels 7/7.
>
>>> Non-human multi-class characters can have two possible combinations of
>>> triple-class: Fighter/Mage/Cleric and Fighter/Mage/Thief.
>>
>>
>> But with 3 classes and the 161000 XP limit they could never achieve level
>> 9 in any class?
>
> Not in BG1. The fighter/wizard/cleric would reach levels 6/6/6, the
> fighter/wizard/thief would reach levels 6/6/7.

Of course one could use the XP Cap Remover, and do a lot of side quests.

 

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GuruTech schrieb:

....
>>Not in BG1. The fighter/wizard/cleric would reach levels 6/6/6, the
>>fighter/wizard/thief would reach levels 6/6/7.
>
>
> Of course one could use the XP Cap Remover, and do a lot of side quests.

So if I would not use external programs to remove the cap and would like
to get the maximum level from a spellcasting class the only solution is
to choose human and dualclass, e.g. Fighter up to 5 and then Mage up to
9? Or Ranger up to 5 and Cleric up to 9?

Then i´ll bury my idea to play an elven Ranger/Mage :-(
bye
Michael

 

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Michael Romes wrote:
> GuruTech schrieb:
>

> So if I would not use external programs to remove the cap and would like
> to get the maximum level from a spellcasting class the only solution is
> to choose human and dualclass, e.g. Fighter up to 5 and then Mage up to
> 9? Or Ranger up to 5 and Cleric up to 9?

A cleric can only reach level 8 in the BG1 XP cap.

> Then i´ll bury my idea to play an elven Ranger/Mage :-(

Yes, I'm afraid that's not going to happen in BG anyway.

 

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Michael Romes <NetterNachbar6@lycos.de> once tried to test me with:

> Then i´ll bury my idea to play an elven Ranger/Mage :-(

You could play Icewind Dale 2 and play an elven Ranger/Mage.

Well, I say that, assuming that IWD2 uses the multiclassing rules from 3rd
edition D&D since most of the rest of the game is 3E.

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Knight37 schrieb:
> Michael Romes <NetterNachbar6@lycos.de> once tried to test me with:
>
>
>>Then i´ll bury my idea to play an elven Ranger/Mage :-(
>
>
> You could play Icewind Dale 2 and play an elven Ranger/Mage.
>
> Well, I say that, assuming that IWD2 uses the multiclassing rules from 3rd
> edition D&D since most of the rest of the game is 3E.

Actually I ordered the Ultimate Icewind Dale Collection just today from
Amazon.de - however it will stand on my shelf for a long time as I
intend to first play through Baldurs Gate 1, Add-On TOSC, Planescape
Torment and Baldurs Gate II+Throne of Baal Add-on...

So the elven Ranger Mage will have to wait for a while. For BG I I
settled for a human Fighter who will dual-class to Mage after 5th level
to achiev level 9 as Mage and with Fighter 5/Mage 9 will gain the
maximum levels possible under the 161000 XP limit of the game.
bye
Michael

 

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Michael Romes wrote:

> So the elven Ranger Mage will have to wait for a while. For BG I I
> settled for a human Fighter who will dual-class to Mage after 5th level
> to achiev level 9 as Mage and with Fighter 5/Mage 9 will gain the
> maximum levels possible under the 161000 XP limit of the game.

If you're importing your character to BG2 afterward, you might want to
think about optimizing your character for BG2 rather than for BG1. If
you do, I'd advise dual-classing from fighter to wizard at level 13. In
any case, make sure you have Strength at least 15 and Intelligence at
least 17 or you won't be able to dual-class at all, as Jonathan mentioned.