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So I'm searching for more options on getting a gaming PC. I'd build one but I think getting a prebuild from a known brand name like CUK or Ironside would give me a better warranty. I've had a few issues with my 2012 build, often I could never figure out the problem. So if I have a warranty I can just request support.

Plus it'll be a building foundation since my 2012 build is very dated. Does anyone have any recommendations for build sites? Or ones that lets you change the parts? I got this build in mind my friend suggested (in picture)

wfl7PZm.jpg
 
The typical issues with prebuilts are all present with that one above.

PSU is of way to low of wattage, efficiency, and more than likely quality. Can cause very bad issues.
The SSD is name brand, but a very low end slow model at that.

Cant tell definitively, but i believe that AIO is a 120mm, not good enough for a 9700k and can cause throttling.

Ram speed and cas latency are not present. Likely a lower speed kit to save money
 
Just don't buy a prebuilt is really the answer. They almost all make the same mistakes.

Get something like this and have a computer shop assemble it for you.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $339.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $53.04 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $173.98 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $159.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $89.99 @ B&H
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card | $659.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool MATREXX 50 ADD-RGB 4F ATX Mid Tower Case | $71.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1668.95
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1648.95
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-21 21:15 EST-0500 |

You get the same CPU
Better CPU cooler plus RGB
A better motherboard with wifi
likely better ram
better storage
Better RTX2080 super GPU
better case with adressable RGB
far superior PSU

And its $250 cheaper.
Add in windows and the cost of someone building it, your about at the same price as the prebuilt.

And this has far, far better performance.

You also get better warranties, for example:
G.skill Trident Z ram has a lifetime warranty
Corsair RM 650 has a 10 year warranty.
Intel 660p NVME has 5 year warranty
The EVGA 2080 super has a 3 year warranty.
The MSI Z390 gaming pro carbon has a 3 year warranty

Meanwhile your prebuilt may come with a 1-3 year warranty.
 
So I'm searching for more options on getting a gaming PC. I'd build one but I think getting a prebuild from a known brand name like CUK or Ironside would give me a better warranty. I've had a few issues with my 2012 build, often I could never figure out the problem. So if I have a warranty I can just request support.

Plus it'll be a building foundation since my 2012 build is very dated. Does anyone have any recommendations for build sites? Or ones that lets you change the parts? I got this build in mind my friend suggested (in picture)

wfl7PZm.jpg


I would go for this.... Build it yourself. You save money that way and get way better parts for your money.
Please refer to this, Same BuildIdea/Better Parts

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($243.65 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($172.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($44.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card ($549.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($176.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1796.55
 
Just don't buy a prebuilt is really the answer. They almost all make the same mistakes.

Get something like this and have a computer shop assemble it for you.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $339.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $53.04 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $173.98 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $159.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $89.99 @ B&H
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card | $659.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool MATREXX 50 ADD-RGB 4F ATX Mid Tower Case | $71.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1668.95
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1648.95
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-21 21:15 EST-0500 |

You get the same CPU
Better CPU cooler plus RGB
A better motherboard with wifi
likely better ram
better storage
Better RTX2080 super GPU
better case with adressable RGB
far superior PSU

And its $250 cheaper.
Add in windows and the cost of someone building it, your about at the same price as the prebuilt.

And this has far, far better performance.

You also get better warranties, for example:
G.skill Trident Z ram has a lifetime warranty
Corsair RM 650 has a 10 year warranty.
Intel 660p NVME has 5 year warranty
The EVGA 2080 super has a 3 year warranty.
The MSI Z390 gaming pro carbon has a 3 year warranty

Meanwhile your prebuilt may come with a 1-3 year warranty.
Question about the ram. My friend keeps telling me that 32000Mhz is the bare minimum needed for a powerful PC. Is this still true? I'll still get it eventually in the future.
 
Just don't buy a prebuilt is really the answer. They almost all make the same mistakes.

Get something like this and have a computer shop assemble it for you.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $339.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $53.04 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $173.98 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $159.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $89.99 @ B&H
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card | $659.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool MATREXX 50 ADD-RGB 4F ATX Mid Tower Case | $71.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1668.95
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1648.95
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-21 21:15 EST-0500 |

You get the same CPU
Better CPU cooler plus RGB
A better motherboard with wifi
likely better ram
better storage
Better RTX2080 super GPU
better case with adressable RGB
far superior PSU

And its $250 cheaper.
Add in windows and the cost of someone building it, your about at the same price as the prebuilt.

And this has far, far better performance.

You also get better warranties, for example:
G.skill Trident Z ram has a lifetime warranty
Corsair RM 650 has a 10 year warranty.
Intel 660p NVME has 5 year warranty
The EVGA 2080 super has a 3 year warranty.
The MSI Z390 gaming pro carbon has a 3 year warranty

Meanwhile your prebuilt may come with a 1-3 year warranty.
This is as good as it gets for the price, listen to this guy.
 

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