EA Ditching Plans for PC Version of Dead Space 2

[belardo]

OKAY... Here is something the PC industry should consider:

With less and less AAA games coming out for PC, then...

1 - Why do people need to BUY high end $200~400 gaming cards?

2 - Whose going to need DX11 or DX12 video cards?

3 - With less market to buy cards, what happens to ATI & Nvidia?

4 - The development of the GPUs for consoles are derivatives from the tech developed for high-end GPUs by ATI and Nvidia... if the GPU for PCs dies, then the cost and quality of future GPUs for consoles will suffer.

5 - With most people only need internet access, games and office-suite. The ONLY one that requires business users if office suite. Any computer can access the net. And if there are no games for PC... why buy a Windows based PC? Save $100 and go Linux. I'm speaking future, not today!

Each game that doesn't come out for PC, means less reason to buy a gaming card. We have companies like EA who spend money on DRM that doesn't work and only punishes the legit buyers/players. So while piracy does hurt gaming, DRM, lack of titles, and MMORPGs all take a bite of the gaming market. yeah, I think the lack of games for Windows will help make Linux gain more market share.

I don't OWN any console... but I know that if I want to continue to play some upcoming cool games, I *WILL* need to buy a console. It sure won't be Microsoft. Why support MS who kills their own desktop platform?

 

[FLGibsonJr]

The pirate issue is an excuse by multi-national corporations. They want the gaming industry proprietary, so that they can make more and more money on each gamer. There is too much freedom and choice for them when it comes to PC's. Even with the PC they are trying to make it proprietary through Steam etc. Corporations in a sense want to enslave you to their proprietary console systems so that they can take more and more of your money, as they reduce your choices, and offer you less and less for each dollar you spend.

I will not be made a fool by these multi-national corporations by becoming a console gamer. I will completely quit gaming before going to the console.

Regards,

 

[speedemon]

So most of you wont be getting Badcompany2 then?

 

[spectrewind]

[citation][nom]Hilarion[/nom]EA dumps the very people who made them in the first place. Why am I not surprised?That puts EA off my shopping lists.[/citation]

Been off my shopping list for quite a while, too.

 

[spectrewind]

[citation][nom]kikireeki[/nom]The pirated Xbox games are as much as the pc games so I really do not get the point. And if the companies will keep going like this I do not know why would ATI and Nvidia bother themselves by developing new hardcore gaming cards. I think they have to think seriously about this issue.The future has never looked darker for PC gamers![/citation]

I kinda thought something similar. I still use an nForce6 + 8800GTX for my gaming. While I am waiting to upgrade until probably around summer, my original reasons to do so are losing support due to the vaporware/abandon-ware that is becoming the PC gaming arena: Why install an ATI/Nvidia accelerator, if there are nearly no uses for it in the entertainment? And I have no use for protein folding, so that's out...

And yes, I do pay for my games...

 

[Guest]

This really sucks, Dead Space was one of the coolest games I have ever played, I loved how freaked I got by lighting and sound effects. I am really disappointed. I was looking forward to this game.

 

[FLGibsonJr]

I wouldn't worry too much, all of the more adult oriented complicated games are all still PC, and most of them are PC only. At least the ones I play. None of the games I play are even rumored to be going console, in fact I do not know how they could be played on a gamepad. Consoles need simplicity, there will always be a market for more sophisticated PC gamers.

Xfire just went over 15,000,000 PC gamers, and Steam has more than 25,000,000 PC gamers and they are growing fast. If the multi-national corporations walk away from that kind of market, it will be and is being filled by others. Look at some of the great Russian PC games coming out (IL-2, ArmA2, Rise Of Fight, etc etc) and they are only for PC.

Regards,

 

[Tamz_msc]

If these are the responses to Dead Space 2 not being available on the PC, just think what would have happened if EA had announced that there will be no Crysis 2 for PC!!!

 

[thegreathuntingdolphin]

Fallout 3 was wonderful, but at times damn-near-unplayable on my PC.

Truer words will not be spoken by me today. I am getting tired of all the PC games that are crazy buggy. Fallout 3 is one of my 3 favorite games of all time but it crashes so freakin much! COD 4 and 5 would be unplayable for large amounts of time (I couldn't even play COD 5 online for the first couple months!). Only Valve does a really good job updating games and releasing with minimal bugs.

I feel like such a noob when my noob console friends pop in their game and play with very few problems....

I still won't abandon the PC for gaming (I already abandoned EA awhile ago). Now if you will excuse me, I am going to go play L4D2 on my Eyefinity rig followed by some Fallout 3 on my 3d Vision rig. Suck it consoles.

 

[that_aznpride101]

i don't blame EA for making this decision. i blame the people who keep pirating games on their PC!!

 

[neiroatopelcc]

If the game's as dreadfull as halo it's no big loss! I remember being sorely disappointed by my halo 2 purchase .... should've never wasted money on that junk ; even crysis offers better gameplay and that's not exactly its strong point. Oh well. Nevermind. Zenimax and vivendi do better games anyway.

 

[notsleep]

unless it's mmo game, the pc game platform is dead due to rampant piracy.

 

[belardo]

Not just Piracy...

PC gaming is dying (but will never DIE) because:

1 - Piracy (Thanks guys)

2 - MMORPG (WOW, etc) because such gamers will play these games for months or years, every day, etc. no time for anything else (bathing, socializing with real people, etc). Runs on any POS computer.

3 - Consoles (A PS3 game works on 30million PS3 consoles. PC.. er, issues with making a game run perfectly on 50,000 unit sales with $50~$500 video cards, 3 different OSes x 32/64bit, 1~4 core CPUs, etc)

4 - DRM. Considering that PC gaming is dying... to spend $50 on a game with limited installs is a killer. In 2-4 years, my system maybe rebuilt, upgraded, replace 3-5 times. And we have to worry about installs and root-kits? Screw YOU EA and SecuROM (owned by SONY hmmm)

5 - Microsoft / Xbox360. If MS wanted PC gaming to do well... well? Where are the titles?

Since MS is *NOT* supporting PC gaming, I recommend that us PC/Windows users VOW to NEVER EVER buy an Xbox/MS console! If it was just PS3 vs Nintendo, PC gaming would be in better shape.

PC Gaming in 5 years from now will be:
- WOW and other much MMOs.
- Flash games such as those on Adult Swim (works on any computer with a browser)
- Home-grown startups... maybe a future ID-software company?
- Religious Games (yes, there are Rapture & Crusades games)
- Educational games K~6.
- RTSs (Real Time Strategy) like Supreme Commander because such games requires LOTS of CPU power and complexity that far exceed the ability of a console with a joypad.

So there will be about 3~5 successful MMORPGs, 2~4 good RTS, crap $1 games, porno-games and god-games. And maybe, just maybe 1-2 good FPS (Quake 5... as Unreal #4 is pretty much off the books... they say piracy of UT3, but in reality - its sub-standard product)

THAT is the future of gaming!

For hardware... I don't think GPUs are going to get that much better. The current DX11 cards are good for another 12+ months. By the time the ATI 7870 & GeForce BA880-GTX Ultra comes out, there maybe only 1-2 games that'll make use of such a $400 card... people DON'T spend $400 for a graphics card to play 1-2 games.

Now, as these current consoles get OLDER (360/PS3 - which are already 3 generations behind) in 2-3 years, PC gaming may PICK UP a bit because the consoles will be so dated. But wait... around 2013~14, it'll be time for another generation of Xbox-ROD720 and PS-Four which will be using DX12 class GPUs... and then PC gaming is hit in the balls again.

After that... High end GPUs will stop being developed for PC. No games = No GPU. What will happen is that what is left will be made smaller, cooler and cheaper. So by 2013, an ATI 5890 class card will be $50.

 

[CoryInJapan]

I never liked EA anyways...Looks like I have no plans to bother finishing the first one like I WAS going to do because they announced DS2 but screw ehm now.

 

[kashifme21]

I dont understand why Nvidia and Ati are axeing themselves by supporting consoles.

This gen due to consoles, there isnt a game out which looks better then crysis(which is 3yrs old now) technological push in graphics has come to a halt. If this carries on GPU upgrades on PC will not be needed.

Whom will Nvidia and ATI sell their gpus to then?

Theres already 70 millions xbox + ps3's out there, i doubt 7-8million chips sold per year on these consoles are enough to keep companies like ATI and Nvidia alive.

Also once a console is bought it means no more business for the next 7yrs for any of these companies(sure the initial sales might be good, but later on its nothing). With PC they used to have repeat customer every 2-3 years which will stop now. I really dont see how they could be supporting consoles.

 

[Shadow703793]

1. Consoles are typically less buggy. (Uniform design)

You call RROD not buggy?

 

[notsleep]

steam = DRM = c r a p

 

[prelude2250]

EA equals torrents because I just dont like giving them money anymore.

 

[JohnnyLucky]

Dead space? Who needs a bunch of empty uselless space?

 

[jwl3]

Ha, join the club of pissed off EA-hating PC gamers. EA screwed its EA Sports fans long ago by dropping the PC versions and now they're moving on to the other genres of their business. Why am I not surprised? This company is going down the drain - you don't f*** over the customers who made you who you are.

Intel, AMD, and Nvidia need to start their own PC ONLY gaming companies. Face it, the ONLY reason I need a QUAD CORE i7-860 and ATI/NVIDIA high end graphics card is to GAME. I don't need it for browsing the web or typing. If these hardware companies want to keep selling us cutting-edge hardware, they better keep those games coming.

 

[saravis4]

I don't know if this has been posted or not, but I wouldn't be so quick to claim foul from this. A lot of PC games see a release delay and if thats the case, if the console versions are coming in Q4 of 2011, that would mean the PC version could be coming out in Q1 of 2012. If this schedule only lists up to q4 of 2011, then obviously we wouldn't have any info beyond that.

 

[Guest]

While I do hate the fact that a lot of games are designed for consoles then ported to PC (Invisible War, KOTOR etc), people need to understand that EA is a business and they have to do what is most profitable. Sure the argument is valid that people who pirate the game wouldn't have bought it anyway, but if those same people complete the game, any incentive they might have had for buying it is gone and they've just played a game for free. Also, I think people who play games for only one platform are severely limiting their exposure to the good games that come out for the systems they don't have. People really need to get off this PC-only, Console-only nonsense. If you are a true gamer, you will play games regardless of what platform they are on.

 

[10tacle]

I finally was through with EA after that horrendous NASCAR 2008 for the PS3. Anyway I just bought L4D2 for the PC for $29.99 at Fry's today (on sale, even beating Amazon and NewEgg's price at $43). Next up on the shopping list: STALKER-Pripyat and Bioshock 2. EA can shove it up it's ass.

It does not cost major dollars for a publisher to offer multiple formats of the same game. Obviously EA ditching a PC version of a title means they are scared - scared of the loss of some profits. We will probably see this more and more down the road, fellow PC gamers. Better enjoy PC gaming while we can, because consoles (even as I own a PS3) are for lazy gamers and snot nosed little whiny foul-mouthed brats with easy online gaming access. Consoles are where the money is, and that's where the attention will be long term.

 

[necronic]

[citation][nom]Belardo[/nom].PC Gaming in 5 years from now will be:- WOW and other much MMOs.- Flash games such as those on Adult Swim (works on any computer with a browser)- Home-grown startups... maybe a future ID-software company?- Religious Games (yes, there are Rapture & Crusades games)- Educational games K~6.- RTSs (Real Time Strategy) like Supreme Commander because such games requires LOTS of CPU power and complexity that far exceed the ability of a console with a joypad.[citation]

I'll add 2 and expand 1 genre to that.

1) Not just RTS but all strategy games. You will never see a serious civilization/gal civ/SoaSE/ entry on a console. Actually RTS may be the only one that will fall. It wasn't great (and much much more difficult to play) but Halo Wars was arguably a succesful rts on a console.

2) Seriously competitive FPS titles. Anything that has worldwide competitions will never loose its PC version. Competitive FPS play on a console remote is the special olympics of computer gaming competition. TF2 CoD and L4D come to mind.

3)Freeware. There is soooooooo much homebrew/freeware out there, and a lot of it is incredibly good, and it will NEVER see release on a console.

 

[schmich]

Make sure to buy the really good PC games so the industry understands that it's quality that is missing on their products. At the moment I'm eyeing BF Bad Company 2. Plus, if if BF:BC2 becomes a success on the PC they'll make damn sure to make BF3 a great game which apparently will be PC only, at least to start with.