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Me again.

Is there like a comparison table anywhere to compare gpu and cpu folding stats?

If for example I let my quad run for 24 hrs using smp what type of card would I need to produce the same if not better results.

Reason being my graphics card is lame and I'm thinking of upgrading but I want a card that is a folding demon.

Thanks
 
There is no support for ATI/AMD 5xxx series cards.
The 4xxx series does have folding support however they don't get ANY PPD or WU, they do just very little. Your best bet is to go with a GTX 460, with the bonus for the card right now, its around 8-9k ppd.
 
yep...basically anything Nvidia/Fermi. For JUST folding the GTX 460 768MB versions are sufficient and run around $170. If you're a gamer, might be worth it to step up the 1GB version at ~$220. Anything over that there's a whole price/performance issue. I'm considering.... but what to do with my CF'd 5770s... lol.

-seeker
 
The step up is not worth it to behonest... 768mb is good enough, IMO, 1gb is just useless I mean almost all the games I've played only use 256mb or 512mb of VRAM. Also, You could easily OC the 768mb to the performance of a 1gb version. If you live in the US I recommend the Gigabyte version that is on newegg right now for 170. It OCs to the core clock of 850 which is really good. The direct cu is another good option but not as cheap as the gigabyte one.

Gigabyte GTX460: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125334&cm_re=gigabyte_460-_-14-125-334-_-Product
Asus DirectCu GTX460:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390&cm_re=directcu_460-_-14-121-390-_-Product

The best 460 is a 1gb, which is at the cost of 240 + 15$ MIR. It's the MSI Hawk, OC's like a beast with VERY cool temps on load and high OC as well. With the max core clock at 878. HOWEVER! The great thing about the Hawk is it has voltage control (partial at least) The person on this review was able to reach 940 core clock which is a huge improvement.
review: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/31.html
MSI Hawk GTX 460 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127518&Tpk=gtx460%20hawk
 



Hi, I've been looking at the GTX460's, theres quite a few about.

I'm looking for the best folding card as opposed to gaming.

The Gigabyte is like £149 which is about $235.

The Asus GTX460 TOP is a good price over here at the moment, its £112 which is around $178 for the 768mb version.

Does anyone have or know if this is a good folding card?
 


Ok thanks, think I'll go for the Asus GTX460 and start racking up some decent points.

At the minute I've got my quad @3.6, just completed its 1st SMP work unit - 436 points

Slow ass 8600GTS, completed 1st unit - 1004 points

I'm starting to wonder if its worth folding on the cpu or will this improve the more I do?

You mentioned bonus points for the GTX460, why is this and how long will it last.

When will the GPU3 support be out for ATI and will it be on a par with Nvidia or does no one really know until it arrives?

Thanks
 


If you haven't done so, get a passkey from Standford. The FAQ for passkey can be find here: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-passkey. The passkey is needed for SMP bonus.

Once you enter that into your config file, you will need to fold 10 SMP units (before the deadline) before you can get the bonus for the SMP units. For comparison, My Q6600 at 3.0 GHz usually get about 4500 PPD (points for days) [strike]with gpu folding.[/strike] for SMP folding only with the bonus. (The unit also have two gpu clients folding in it as well, which likely will lower the PPD a bit.)
 



Yeah I've got my passkey sorted, I've done 2 smp units so 8 to go.

Just seems a struggle when you look at what the gpu's are producing.(Ordered a GTX460 😀 )

Just tried a unit with my HD4850, oh dear, will the 4 series ati cards ever get better results??

525th and climbing :lol:
 



Folding SMP unit credit showed in HFM as 2752, in fahmon it was 481???

When the unit completed I checked the new total and the fahmon credit had been added, not the HFM.

I thought that HFM was supposed to be the more accurate program?
 


Ah finally back. Been a long week for me. :pt1cable:

Anyways, HFM is more accurate than fahmon when bonuses are included. without bonus, fahmon we will be just fine for now.

To get these bonuses, you need to have all these requirements:

1. A passkey. http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-passkey

2. Completed ten SMP2 WU's to activate the bonus.

3. (for once you got the bonus) Have an 80% WU turn in rate to keep the Bonus. (basically it means, if you have a Wu and you return 8 out of 10 of them. you'll keep the bonus.)


Hope this

 


Right, so I haven't done 10 units yet so no bonus, I have got my passkey though.

So is HFM showing me the credit including the bonus even though I'm not getting the bonus right now?

Thanks
 


Yep. It cant tell if you are bonus eligible or not. So depending on you're setting, that what it will show up but it will be accurate when you have thoses bonuses flowing though. 😀
 



Cool, that explains it. Better keep folding then, I like the look of those bonus points.

Welcome back from wherever you have been. [:bohleyk:1]
 


Damn you nVidia users! I get double what my HD4870 produces out of my Phenom II!

That said, the fact that my AMD ass is out of the top three producers on this team is encouraging - we're finally getting some more firepower. Maybe at this rate we can get back in the top fifty.
 

Good luck with that, we're still getting caught faster than we're gaining on other teams.

If only I could use the 4 i7's my father just got for his office, that could give us a nice boost, but he wouldn't want me messing with his comps 🙁
 



At the minute my quad is getting me around 500 points per unit, without the bonus.

My Geforce 8600GTS is getting me around 1500 points, where my HD4850 was around 350 points.

Once I get the bonus and the GTX460 arrives I should be able to rack up a few.

I think we need a new thread, "Viable reasons why the computer is on all night". I'm running out of excuses :sarcastic:
 



Great news, I've already brought mine :cry:

Got the Asus ENGTX460TOP, its a beast, does a work unit about every 1hr 30mins and never gets over 50 deg :sol:

The packaging it came in was like a real expensive pair of shoes, nice [:jaydeejohn:5]

HFM says 11429 ppd, hope I'm not too gutted about the price drop, paid £123 / $193 for mine.
 



Chucked my GTX460 in to my Opteron Dual Core machine.

When its running its using 20-50% of the CPU.

I've checked my 8600GT and while it runs it uses 2-8% of the CPU.

Problem is now when I run the GTX and the SMP client it shuts down, one or the other is fine, runs all night.

I'm thinking I may need to put the GTX in the quad core machine and set -smp3, what do you think??
 



yep, i just bought mine too. :/ I/we might be able to get a price guarantee since it's only been a week or two.
I've got my 460 with my amd 955 running 3 cores smp. CPU usage in the 80s and the PPD for the 460 doesn't take a hit.
 


Well that might answer my question about set-up with the quad.

If you don't mind me asking which card did you get and how much?

How does the price guarantee work? Is it with supplier or producer??

Funny thing I've noticed that the GTX460 doesn't get as many points per unit as my 8600GT. :sarcastic:

Obviously it completes 5 or 6 before the 8600 does 1 but still less per unit, about 600-1000 so far????
 
I picked up a Palit Sonic Platinum 1GB....it's factory overclocked and normally, I know it's not worth it to pay for that but at $230 with a $30 mail in rebate it ended up being "less" than many basic 1GB models. And being factory OC'd, maybe it's binned as a better card, but I haven't tried manually OC'ing any higher. Price guarantee is up to the place you bought your card from.... check with them, if the price goes down, that is. I overheard another customer talking and the CS rep said if it goes on sale in 30days they honor the lower price... *crossing fingers*

Earlier in the week my GPU WUs were 900 pts or so? now it's in the 600s. Brought my HFM PPD number from 13k ish to 10k. Are you running the GPU3 client?

How is your card loading at 50c?? I know the asus cooler is interesting, but...nevermind - Palit's cooler isn't the best. lol. Mine's rock steady at 70c while folding - well within operating range according to tom's:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-gf104-fermi,2684-13.html

 


Nice, my Asus is factory set at core-700 / shader-1400 / mem-3680 mhz.
Apparently it overclocks well but I havn't done so yet.
I'll wait and see what the price drop is like and then contact seller if noticable drop.

Yep, sounds like mine, the performance has also gone from 1200 ns/day to 700 ns/day.
Have you allowed for the download of larger assignments, 10mb?

All the reviews I read said the card ran unbelievably cool due to the large heatpipe heatsink design.
I've left the fan on auto cooling, its very quiet and running all day the max temp recorded was 53 deg.

The only way is up, I see you've made the top 100, I'm about to break the top 300 😀
Hopefully the team will start to move in the right direction, cheap GTX460 anyone? :lol:
 
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