Wrong. You got it the other way around. It's at 4K that CPUs don't really matter. I've seen several AMD biased reviews where the CPUs run at "base clocks" or hell one guy was dumb enough to force both CPUs at 4 Ghz (thus making the Intel weaker basically) since people "asked for this?" (umm okay). At lower resolutions the difference between Intel and AMD is higher, even without overclocking. I'd love to prove you wrong but I don't own a Ryzen and won't waste money on a second system just to explain to slightly delusional people that the Ryzen isn't as good as advertised. Hell Linus himself even said in HIS TITLE "I am not much for AMD but ..." while he has been on the hype train for months, made several videos previous to the release in which he said you should buy AMD stock and also said AMD is gonna wipe the floor with Intel with 0 proof, just the words of some lady talking which in my experience the past years, AMD usually lies a little and then disappoints. So go ahead and believe all the reviewers. Maybe they are all just trying to get Intel to lower their prices, I don't know.
@xravenxdota you're not in dota here, you can't use that type of language, especially when you have 0 proof and basically are just an angry little kid crying that your toy isn't as good as you think it is. And about that pricing, I got my 8700k at 1700 while the 2700x was 1500, I would've bought the more reliable chip that I know for years, to the rushed "please give me money or we will bankrupt" AMD stuff they have been selling lately, did you even see their GPUs? Not gonna waste time on you. Bottom line, if you can get a decent price Intel that can OC, it will always beat a Ryzen in gaming and still does even in the third generation which is much more expensive. Unless you will never game at higher than 60 fps or above 1080p, then yes go for the Ryzen. Otherwise what are you clowns trying to sell someone a WORK CPU to people that just wanna GAME. Not to mention all the hassle and pain to install and make your Ryzen work properly. My old and my new i7 ran out of the box instantly with base drivers installed. And overclocks itself far beyond what the AMD can. And you can manually OC to 4.9 or even above 5 Ghz. And my new 8700k runs at 65 degrees max, while also streaming and losing little to 0 fps in performance. YES INTEL IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. I'd love a private message in which you show me your clocks and voltages and fps in games cause the only fool that has a Ryzen I know, won't even overclock or show me stuff, since he knows he'd lose bad compared to my new CPU. And that's a fact, not made up insults like your entire useless comment.