Question Looking to buy a new PC! - I need your help

[PCN00B123]

I currently have a Rtx 2060 i5 8400 system but I'm looking to upgrade as this PC can't really keep up with the games I'm trying to play (Alan Wake 2 for example). My 16 GB RAM is only 2666mhz as well.

I haven't been up to date with PC hardware for a while so I need suggestions on Graphics cards and CPUs for a decently high range PC. For the GPU I was looking at the 4070. But in terms of CPUs, I am out of the loop. I understand that Ryzen is a good option these days for the money side.

In terms of budget, I'm thinking of paying through finance, from a website like Scan which allows me to pay monthly. Nothing too crazy.

I want to keep my HDD and SSD's so are their any options where I can get a PC without an SSD to knock the uneeded cost down?

Any suggestions would be appreciated (Even links to pre-bulds would be great)

 

[Why_Me]

What is your monitor resolution?

 

[Why_Me]

Amazon, Scan and Ebuyer do financing and I'm sure there's more. This gives you a rough idea of what you're looking at cost wise for a more up to date PC. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (£139.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler (£27.06 @ MoreCoCo)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P DDR4 II ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£136.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£64.96 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: *Sapphire 21330-01-20G Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£507.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.98 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£96.99 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (£9.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £1046.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 00:00 GMT+0000

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-DDR4-II/Overview

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...le-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15898.shtml

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/21330-01-20g-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16g-gddr6

https://uk.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A750GL-PCIE5

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

 

[PCN00B123]

Thanks for this list
I'm only playing on a 1080p monitor. I'll possibly look at 1440 in the future but it's not a priority at the moment.

If I were to change the gpu to rtx 4070, which model would u recommend me?

 

[phead128]

SSD prices are rock bottom now, so buy them soon!

 

[PCN00B123]

SSD prices are rock bottom now, so buy them soon!

Well, I was just going to stick my current one into the new build so I didn't have to buy another.

 

[Why_Me]

Thanks for this list
I'm only playing on a 1080p monitor. I'll possibly look at 1440 in the future but it's not a priority at the moment.

If I were to change the gpu to rtx 4070, which model would u recommend me?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-gv-n4070wf3oc-12gd

Amazon.co.uk

Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12GB £503.10

GeForce RTX™ 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G Key Features | Graphics Card - GIGABYTE Global

Discover AORUS premium graphics cards, ft. WINDFORCE cooling, RGB lighting, PCB protection, and VR friendly features for the best gaming and VR experience!

www.gigabyte.com

 

[PCN00B123]

Amazon, Scan and Ebuyer do financing and I'm sure there's more. This gives you a rough idea of what you're looking at cost wise for a more up to date PC. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (£139.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler (£27.06 @ MoreCoCo)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P DDR4 II ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£136.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£64.96 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: *Sapphire 21330-01-20G Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£507.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.98 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£96.99 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (£9.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £1046.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 00:00 GMT+0000

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-DDR4-II/Overview

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...le-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15898.shtml

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/21330-01-20g-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16g-gddr6

https://uk.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A750GL-PCIE5

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

Apologies if i'm living up to my username with this question. Would the I5 12400F cause any bottlenecking with a 4070?

 

[Zerk2012]

Well, I was just going to stick my current one into the new build so I didn't have to buy another.

Most of the newer games are requiring a SSD for the game including wake 2.

 

[PCN00B123]

Most of the newer games are requiring a SSD for the game including wake 2.

Sorry, I'm not too sure what you mean. I already have a PCIe 980 with wake 2 installed, which I'm going to use for the new build.

 

[Zerk2012]

Apologies if i'm living up to my username with this question. Would the I5 12400F cause any bottlenecking with a 4070?

Don't know your budget but this would let you sell your current PC to get some money back.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WLrmL9

 

[Zerk2012]

Sorry, I'm not too sure what you mean. I already have a PCIe 980 with wake 2 installed, which I'm going to use for the new build.

Had no clue how large your SSD was.

 

[Corwin65]

Sorry, I'm not too sure what you mean. I already have a PCIe 980 with wake 2 installed, which I'm going to use for the new build.

You do know you will need to do a full reinstall of Windows and games/applications right? And you will have to buy a new copy of Windows.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

how long can u wait on the upgrade? the 4000 series refresh looks promising. the 4070 gets a nice bump in cuda cores.

if you plan on long term usage, i would suggest AM5. I would say get the new mobo cpu rams and wait for the 4070 super before upgrading the GPU.

So i would suggest something like this:

best cpu for gaming right now

Mobo with pcie 5.0 ssd support and next gen cpu compatibility

fast ssd comparable to samsung 980 pro

case with front panel type c

ATX 3.0 PSU with 16 pin power connector

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (£377.99 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£42.77 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (£202.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£106.98 @ NeoComputers)
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 540 ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.94 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: NZXT Aer P 73.11 CFM 120 mm Fan (£5.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case Fan: NZXT Aer P 73.11 CFM 120 mm Fan (£5.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £1000.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 13:24 GMT+0000

 

[Lucky_SLS]

You do know you will need to do a full reinstall of Windows and games/applications right? And you will have to buy a new copy of Windows.

IIRC if its an OEM license like with a laptop or prebuilt, the license cannot be transferred to the new PC.

but if the old license was a retail license, you can transfer it to a new PC. you would have to log in with your microsoft account and it would ask you to identify the old pc for the license transfer.

 

[PCN00B123]

how long can u wait on the upgrade? the 4000 series refresh looks promising. the 4070 gets a nice bump in cuda cores.

if you plan on long term usage, i would suggest AM5. I would say get the new mobo cpu rams and wait for the 4070 super before upgrading the GPU.

So i would suggest something like this:

best cpu for gaming right now

Mobo with pcie 5.0 ssd support and next gen cpu compatibility

fast ssd comparable to samsung 980 pro

case with front panel type c

ATX 3.0 PSU with 16 pin power connector

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (£377.99 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£42.77 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (£202.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£106.98 @ NeoComputers)
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 540 ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.94 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: NZXT Aer P 73.11 CFM 120 mm Fan (£5.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case Fan: NZXT Aer P 73.11 CFM 120 mm Fan (£5.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £1000.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 13:24 GMT+0000

I'm not too fussed about the refresh, to be honest. This system is great but I'd hopefully be looking at maybe a bit cheaper. I wouldn't even mind a 4060 with maybe a slightly cheaper CPU than the one you listed here. I know it would be easier if I gave a budget but I'm trying to gauge my budget through suggestions first.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

from the above list, you can downgrade to a Ryzen 7700 and get a new SSD later down the line. Reuse your existing case.

the 7700 is 296 quid. the mobo and ram are the cheapest options with the features i liseted (pcie 5.0 ssd support and 6000mhz cl30 ram kit) the same can be said for the PSU. cheapest 850W good ATX 3.0 psu with 16 pin power connector.

depending on your existing cpu cooler, you might even get a compatible AM5 mounting bracket.

the main reason for AM5 like i said before is for the long term cpu upgrade paths and pcie 5.0 ssd support.

if you are not bothered about ray tracing, i would suggest the 6750XT.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4RrRsY/xfx-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-speedster-qick-319-core-video-card-rx-675xyjfdp

 

[Order 66]

It does really depend on your budget, and what PSU you currently have whether an upgrade would make sense for you. I would not wait for the 4000 series refresh because while it will almost certainly bring more performance, it will probably be just as overpriced.

 

[helper800]

I'm not too fussed about the refresh, to be honest. This system is great but I'd hopefully be looking at maybe a bit cheaper. I wouldn't even mind a 4060 with maybe a slightly cheaper CPU than the one you listed here. I know it would be easier if I gave a budget but I'm trying to gauge my budget through suggestions first.

IMO something like this is the minimum viable AM5 AMD system:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (£213.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (£202.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£106.98 @ NeoComputers)
Video Card: Inno3D Twin X2 OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£379.05 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£103.95 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan (£10.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1122.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 16:54 GMT+0000

This would be a comparable intel system, however, Intel is at EOL for the socket. The 14000s from Intel are essentially the same as the 13000s:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (£192.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Box Limited)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£106.98 @ NeoComputers)
Video Card: Inno3D Twin X2 OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£379.05 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£103.95 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan (£10.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1028.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 16:57 GMT+0000

An Ideal amd build for you would be, IMO, this. If you really have to have the Nvidia features sub in a 4070 over the 7800XT:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£226.48 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£149.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£106.98 @ NeoComputers)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£509.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£103.95 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan (£10.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1214.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 17:00 GMT+0000

Here is the build link I made on scan for you with the 3rd build in mind.

 

[Order 66]

IMO something like this is the minimum viable AM5 AMD system:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (£213.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (£202.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£106.98 @ NeoComputers)
Video Card: Inno3D Twin X2 OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£379.05 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£103.95 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan (£10.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1122.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 16:54 GMT+0000

This would be a comparable intel system, however, Intel is at EOL for the socket. The 14000s from Intel are essentially the same as the 13000s:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (£192.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Box Limited)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£106.98 @ NeoComputers)
Video Card: Inno3D Twin X2 OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£379.05 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£103.95 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan (£10.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1028.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 16:57 GMT+0000

An Ideal amd build for you would be, IMO, this. If you really have to have the Nvidia features sub in a 4070 over the 7800XT:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£226.48 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£149.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£106.98 @ NeoComputers)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£509.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£103.95 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan (£10.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1214.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-03 17:00 GMT+0000

You should absolutely not have a 4060 ti 16GB. I understand that you are trying to hit a certain price point, but you can do better with last gen AMD at the same price.

 

[helper800]

You should absolutely not have a 4060 ti 16GB. I understand that you are trying to hit a certain price point, but you can do better with last gen AMD at the same price.

He was insistent on an Nvidia GPU above, my 3rd build is as I call it, "An ideal build... IMO..." I called the 4060 ti the minimum viable Nvidia product. Also that 16gb model is the same price as the 8gb cards right now, mind as well grab double the VRAM for the same price.

 

[Order 66]

He was insistent on an Nvidia GPU above, my 3rd build is as I call it, "An ideal build... IMO..." I called the 4060 ti the minimum viable Nvidia product. Also that 16gb model is the same price as the 8gb cards right now, mind as well grab double the VRAM for the same price.

I didn't see the OP explicitly mention that they must have an Nvidia GPU. They did say that they wouldn't mind a 4060, but they never said they had to have an Nvidia GPU.

 

[helper800]

I didn't see the OP explicitly mention that they must have an Nvidia GPU. They did say that they wouldn't mind a 4060, but they never said they had to have an Nvidia GPU.

Seems like he is pretty insistent to me. See below;

Thanks for this list
I'm only playing on a 1080p monitor. I'll possibly look at 1440 in the future but it's not a priority at the moment.

If I were to change the gpu to rtx 4070, which model would u recommend me?

Apologies if i'm living up to my username with this question. Would the I5 12400F cause any bottlenecking with a 4070?

I'm not too fussed about the refresh, to be honest. This system is great but I'd hopefully be looking at maybe a bit cheaper. I wouldn't even mind a 4060 with maybe a slightly cheaper CPU than the one you listed here. I know it would be easier if I gave a budget but I'm trying to gauge my budget through suggestions first.

@PCN00B123 Would you consider using an AMD Graphics Card?

 

[PCN00B123]

Seems like he is pretty insistent to me. See below;



@PCN00B123 Would you consider using an AMD Graphics Card?

I really appreciate all the build suggestions. What would be the best AMD alternative GPU? I only insisted on an rtx because I've never once owned a radeon card and I've always just liked the Nvidia label.

 

[Why_Me]

Apologies if i'm living up to my username with this question. Would the I5 12400F cause any bottlenecking with a 4070?

You should be just fine with that cpu. 6 cores, 12 threads.