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It's no surprise that people believe in God, really.
 
You do know, people without watches grow old and die right?
Not so with God, remember, He is eternal, and everything that implies, and yes, Im up for more learning.
Who says God doesnt want some kinds of evolution as well?
The real question is, are we the caretakers of earth? I believe we are, I also believe we are evil at heart. Pretty much everyone agrees to this point, now, I believe in redemption, forgiveness, second chances, hope, faith, people can change, 1 person can make a difference, all these things, but, it seems some have trouble with this, and thats where I differ with them

PS Before anyone thinks Im being naive, and that thinking this way doesnt change whats happening, well, theyre wrong on both points.
As to the earths/mans destruction, just read the last book of the new testament, it explains how evil we are, and theres a line made somewheres we will eventually cross, but also, theres other references, which I cant recall directly, that says being good also delays this "line"
 
give an infinite number of monkeys infinite typewriters, and eventually they will write shakespeare.

in a universe thsat is infinitely big, with an infinite number of alternate dimensions, every possibilty is played out somewhere or another. there is bound to be a place where the sun, moon and earth exists in balance for life. and there will be millions more.

i am not against the idea of god, in any way. but using god as a blanket answer for anything we cant explain is just ridiculous.

life is here, not by accident, or creation. we have to be here. we are not protected by a loving overlord, nor will we adapt to whatever conditions we find.

we can, and will, destroy this planet if we continue this cycle. weather or not some small ammount of life will remain oin the planet is irrelevent. we would still doom millions of species.

and we do not have that right.
 


OF COURSE we do. 'god' gave us that right when he/she/it gave us free will. First thing we did was to bite the 'forbidden fruit'.

Come on, people... Use your heads for something other than hat racks. Is global warming real? Maybe, but there are a lot of skeptics. Still, there is an overwhelming number of scientists that think that something is going on, and it is not in our best interest...

BTW, your grammar is dreadful.
 
Well if there's no god then who decides what right we do have? Nobody can, because no creature is in a greater position than the rest of the species on this planet except in the mind of itself.

Anyway, back to climate change (it's not global warming any more remember). I honestly don't buy into anything where politicians are absolutely fanatical about it. I don't believe that even if human actions have contributed to increasing temperatures that the proposed "solutions" are anything more than a means to tax the people and appear to be "doing something." I do have other views on the matter, but I'll save you the tinfoil.
 


Free will, remember? Only YOU can decide what is best for you, and only YOU can decide what is best for your environs. I suggest that YOU make your choices wisely, for YOU will have to live with them until you are worm food.

Suggest that a good place to start would be Raymond M. Smullyan's essay 'Is God a Taoist?'
 

Right. To correct my previous post: "Nobody can, or everybody can" :lol:
 
Id suggest some read CS Lewis' science fiction books.
It doesnt bend my rules of whats possible, but it may surprise a few people
These books were written long ago, and supposedly, such thinking according to closed minds, are taboo, but yet, CS Lewis was and still is revered as being a great contributer then and now for his beliefs
 
does free will mean i have the right to destroy the planet?

your comment makes no sense. i could go and murder someone because i have free will?

being ABLE to, and having the RIGHT, are very different things.

and thankyou for the grammar comment. unfortunatly, i dont care. i reply to these posts in between other stuff. i make an effort, but dont have the time to read through and double check everything.
 
Rights are defined by whomever we grant permission to authorize them.


Rights granted by a higher power is simply mans easy answer to passing off that role of authorization onto a being without accountability and at the same time acts as a shield to prevent their removal.

But because we ultimately makes the decisions down here, we still delegate the granting of rights to those in power or control.
 


You are now opening up a philosophical argument that has been raging for over 1000 years, at least in the academic arena. Most recently, there have been ethics panels on many hospital staffs to decide what treatments the hospital should do and should not do. Ethics is a very controversial area at the moment, so let's start with a simple question... There is one heart available for transplant, and two patients that are adequate matches and both have extreme needs for that heart to stay alive. One is an older gentleman, mid fifties, one is a youth in his late teens. You decide.
 


There is a concept known as 'collective will' whereby we, for the sake of what we call civilization, agree to a set of social rules to abide by in order to maintain that civilization. Sometimes these 'rules' are informal, as in the various cliques that form in various learning institutions, and at other times they are more formal, as the laws that our various governments decree. 'For the greater good' is a justification used by many civilizations through the ages to willfully commit some pretty atrocious crimes, usually with the agreement and complicity of the 'collective will'. And yet, who am I to call Stalin's purges a crime? Hitler's? Mao's?
 


Or burn a "witch" at the stake. Feed a Christian to the lions. Hang a man who questions the doctrines of the church.

As my professor once told us, God might be the shortcut to explain all other things that are unexplainable.

Man-made or not, something wrong is going on with the planet. And until we have the technology to get out from this rock, we have to do something to preserve it.
 
Its our responsibility to find out exactly what the problem is, such as earlier reports on Polar bears, yes, the numbers were down in the one area reported on, but up in all the other areas, or, it was selective reporting, much like the shark attacks, they were pushed to the front of the news, thereby giving a misconception that sharks were on a frenzy, when in reality, the attacks were actually slightly lower that year.
That irresponsible from our supposed "experts", as they should know better, but somehow cant turn down the attention and extra money it brings.
The global warming issue is too important attention wise and tax wise and demand wise to be even slightly irresponsible, which means it cuts both ways, too important to ignore, but als too important to get swept up and publish foolishness, go on spending sprees, report false data, report only data that supports your model etc etc
There has been huge corruption here, just look at all the politicians piling on, this alone should make one think.
Why did some pols resist, and some still resist? Maybe they are the ones that should get our vote, as theyre the ones thatre being responsible here.
But, the news drives this, theyre in bed with those same pols who embrace this, and any pol or scientist who gets in the way is vilified, and we simply need to stop listening to all of them, expect better, demand better
 
Croc, the kiwis have much to say on this matter

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It's 'bru', not 'bro'... And that 'Beached az' series is an Aussie take-off on south island accents, possibly helped out by some north islander imports. Have you watched the final in the series?

My Kiwi partner wants to go to the ABC shop and send the whole series to her son in the US. I keep telling her that it isn't over yet, but you can't really tell a Kiwi anything. Well, not THIS Kiwi, anyway.
 


Had some old friends from the States come over, they stopped off in NZ on the way. One thing they did in NZ was a jet boat ride down in the South island. Boat driver got done explaining all the safety rules, then asked 'any questions?' My mate's wife put up her hand, and said 'I'm a Christian...'
 
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