Microsoft Responds to Windows 8 Hate From Game Devs

[belardo]

[citation][nom]ejb222[/nom]Dude did you not know that 90% of PC users would have no clue how to run linux(or even install it)....let alone install Wine to run EXE etc.[/citation] LinuxMint installs no more difficult than Windows 7 or 8. You put the disc in, you boot up.. follow the directions on how to format the drive (again, same as with Windows), and in about 10 minutes, its finished.

The LinuxMint desktop is far more familiar than the Windows R8PE interface... so such a statement is no longer true.

 

[1depp1]

true, windows 8 is not for me,
why?
1. not much difference from windows 7. (18% difference)
2. cant support Steam's DoTa 2.
3. cant support pirated games such as a pirated battlefield 3, crysis2, prototype 2, and etc..

 

[belardo]

[citation][nom]sykozis[/nom]Google has already tried to compete with MS in the PC market....and has thus far failed miserably. [/citation] ChromeOS hardware is only just coming out... it hasn't been out for years and years. Yeah its Linux under-the hood.

[citation][nom]wildkitten[/nom]They tried once. The issue was, which distro do you support. The developers soon discovered they had to have people to cover ALL of them which increased costs for not many customers so it quickly fizzled.[/citation] Linux didn't try to take over the desktop market "once" its just OUT THERE, period. You mean the support that developers need to make for Windows 2000 / XP / Vista / 7 and now 8?

 

[ojas]

I missed the point in the article where the rep was responding to the hate.

 

[einheriar]

[citation][nom]marcolorenzo[/nom]I don't know why people think that Windows 8 will become a "closed garden" and force out services like Steam. After all, OS X is probably the most closed OS currently in existence and they still have Steam...[/citation]

That is because apple does not compete as it has no real gaming platform of itself

 

[guardianangel42]

[citation][nom]moricon[/nom]There is not one new feature in Windows 8 that is worth paying for upgrading from Windows 7. So It is a wait I guess now till Windows 9 for me![/citation]

I don't know, the resource management improvements of Windows 8 sound tempting. I'll have to see benchmarks to decide if it's worth it but color me interested.

 

[techguy911]

I think the devs are on crack forcing the metro ui on server 2012 good luck trying to sell that.
Oh by the way MANY games do not work in windows 8 64bit i have tested this even with compatibility mode they work fine in 32bit but if you want 64bit your out of luck.

[citation][nom]ejb222[/nom]Dude did you not know that 90% of PC users would have no clue how to run linux(or even install it)....let alone install Wine to run EXE etc. If you want to use Linux, thats cool. But there is no way that the majority of PC users will switch to Linux.[/citation]

It's alot easier than you think all you do is boot from cd select install put your location,name and password and hit next and there are skins that make it look like windows 7 or xp or osx depending on your preference and it can run windows software by default nothing to setup or install.

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]techguy911[/nom]I think the devs are on crack forcing the metro ui on server 2012 good luck trying to sell that.Oh by the way MANY games do not work in windows 8 64bit i have tested this even with compatibility mode they work fine in 32bit but if you want 64bit your out of luck.It's alot easier than you think all you do is boot from cd select install put your location,name and password and hit next and there are skins that make it look like windows 7 or xp or osx depending on your preference and it can run windows software by default nothing to setup or install.[/citation]

Some things don't work in Windows 8 strictly because of there not being good drivers designed specifically for Windows 8 right now (unless they have been fixed in the last few days and I missed it). Also, what games have you tested in 64 bit versions of Windows 8 that didn't work in 32 bit versions of Windows 8?

 

[belardo]

[citation][nom]einheriar[/nom]That is because apple does not compete as it has no real gaming platform of itself[/citation]
Guess you never heard of iPads, huh? It has almost 41,000 games to choose from? About 60 million have been sold, mostly 2s and 3s. Not bad for a device that costs about twice that of an XBox 360 and not even 3 years on the market.

 

[Timendo]

[citation][nom]belardo[/nom]Guess you never heard of iPads, huh? It has almost 41,000 games to choose from? About 60 million have been sold, mostly 2s and 3s. Not bad for a device that costs about twice that of an XBox 360 and not even 3 years on the market.[/citation]
The world's retarded, what can we do about it.

 

[badaxe2]

Sometimes I wish Microsoft would just fail at everything they tried except Windows. Maybe then they'd finally focus on PC gaming.

 

[homiedontrightclick]

Its a really good thing MS has the money to blow. They're going to need it with Windows 8. Epic fail, here we come.

 

[Guest]

Meh. Not sold on Windows 8, no one I know will be upgrading.

 

[NastyPope]

What's really funny is, I'd bet 90% of the people on here complaining about Win8, calling it fail, etc., have probably not even tried it yet. Do any of you remember Vista? Do you remember how long it took to have driver support for much of ANYTHING? Even 2-3 months after release, Vista STILL SUCKED **OUT LOUD**. Win8 is still in consumer preview, and I've found very few things that don't work, while finding - as I mentioned previously - that it DOES seem to be leaner and faster than Win7. Hell, even with my old-school SSD-less Phenom II system with 4GB of DDR2, I noticed a HUGE reduction in time from power-on to desktop.

My point is, don't sit there crying about how fail you think Win8 is until you've actually tried it.

 

[The_Trutherizer]

Come now... Everybody knows "proprietary" is any big corporate's favourite word... Should I list examples?

 

[jalek]

"Closely tied"? Isn't that what they said when they tried to "cut off their air" in competing with Netscape?

 

[wavetrex]

I'd bet 90% of the people on here complaining about Win8, calling it fail, etc., have probably not even tried it yet.
...
My point is, don't sit there crying about how fail you think Win8 is until you've actually tried it.

You'd lose all your stuff in that bet. The fact that there are brainwashed fanboys that think that "the next version" is awesome no matter what doesn't make Windows 8 any good. It sucks, it sucked from the beginning and it will keep sucking after the official release and forever. The entire concept of a touch-screen oriented OS being pushed on the desktop is deeply flawed.
And it's not better in other aspects either... yes, it might boot faster than Win7 but it eats more ram in the process. I tried installing the latest preview on an older machine with 1 GB ( which worked with Win7 quite well ) and it became a nightmarish harddisk toaster. How the hell would THIS run on a low-powered tablet, that beats me ?!

And ignoring compatibility and requirements, let's say use it on the most modern and advanced computers, it STILL is BUTT UGLY. Gay interface with retarded gesture controls instead of the simplicity of pushing a button, pretty much loss of multitasking and the concept of a WINDOW itself. Everything in the new interface is fullscreen and looks totall DUMB on a large 2x" monitor.

This isn't Windows anymore, it should be called "Gay colored OS for touchy devices, used by dumb people who can't click a mouse. Version 1.0"

 

[wavetrex]

P.S. - That usage of xx% from most people here reminds me of this:

"73.6% Of All Statistics Are Made Up"

 

[psychotek71]

balmer your done win 8 is crap

 

[kewl munky]

Cool. So if they decide to do more cross platforming its means when I decide to not buy the next console I could possibly still get to play the new Halo games. Damn Microsoft and Xbox exclusives. Oh you bought our OS that we brag about supporting gaming and xbox live? Well buy our console because that's where the best games are at >.>

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]wavetrex[/nom]You'd lose all your stuff in that bet. The fact that there are brainwashed fanboys that think that "the next version" is awesome no matter what doesn't make Windows 8 any good. It sucks, it sucked from the beginning and it will keep sucking after the official release and forever. The entire concept of a touch-screen oriented OS being pushed on the desktop is deeply flawed.And it's not better in other aspects either... yes, it might boot faster than Win7 but it eats more ram in the process. I tried installing the latest preview on an older machine with 1 GB ( which worked with Win7 quite well ) and it became a nightmarish harddisk toaster. How the hell would THIS run on a low-powered tablet, that beats me ?!And ignoring compatibility and requirements, let's say use it on the most modern and advanced computers, it STILL is BUTT UGLY. Gay interface with retarded gesture controls instead of the simplicity of pushing a button, pretty much loss of multitasking and the concept of a WINDOW itself. Everything in the new interface is fullscreen and looks totall DUMB on a large 2x" monitor.This isn't Windows anymore, it should be called "Gay colored OS for touchy devices, used by dumb people who can't click a mouse. Version 1.0"[/citation]

You don't need to use Metro and Windows 8 is not an OS that relies on touch screens. That is something that *Metro* is optimized for, but you don't need to use Metro and you can easily get a start menu by installing a new one (which is simple, quick, and free). Windows 8 has a desktop shell. If you like the desktop so much, then when you tried Windows 8 (assuming that you actually have and aren't trolling out of pure ignorance), why didn't you use it instead of Metro? I use Windows 8 often now and I hardly ever use Metro. I simply use the desktop and I have no problem with doing so.

Also, in my tests, Windows 8 uses less RAM and hard drive space and transfers than Windows 7 once it is installed and booted up. Maybe it uses more during boot-up and installation, but if it boots up and installs so much faster, then that shouldn't be much of a surprise. Also, the full Windows 8 isn't supposed to run on any tablet excspt those using laptop processors (if even those). Tablets would use cut-down versions.

 

[ejb222]

This isn't Windows anymore, it should be called "Gay colored OS for touchy devices, used by dumb people who can't click a mouse. Version 1.0"
..
Well, I can see by your comment that you haven't quite graduated from HS yet and therefore any comment that you post should be take as lightly as a insult from a 5yo....CakaPoopoohead. Your commnet basically sums up any haters opinion. It is genuinely childish, uninformed and to be ignored. You provide no actual arguement, but instead you show absolutely no regard for social normality or even respect for the people you converse with. If you had said this to anyones face, they would have either laughed at you and walked away, or smacked you for your disrespect. [citation][nom]wavetrex[/nom]You'd lose all your stuff in that bet. The fact that there are brainwashed fanboys that think that "the next version" is awesome no matter what doesn't make Windows 8 any good. It sucks, it sucked from the beginning and it will keep sucking after the official release and forever. The entire concept of a touch-screen oriented OS being pushed on the desktop is deeply flawed.And it's not better in other aspects either... yes, it might boot faster than Win7 but it eats more ram in the process. I tried installing the latest preview on an older machine with 1 GB ( which worked with Win7 quite well ) and it became a nightmarish harddisk toaster. How the hell would THIS run on a low-powered tablet, that beats me ?!And ignoring compatibility and requirements, let's say use it on the most modern and advanced computers, it STILL is BUTT UGLY. Gay interface with retarded gesture controls instead of the simplicity of pushing a button, pretty much loss of multitasking and the concept of a WINDOW itself. Everything in the new interface is fullscreen and looks totall DUMB on a large 2x" monitor.This isn't Windows anymore, it should be called "Gay colored OS for touchy devices, used by dumb people who can't click a mouse. Version 1.0"[/citation]

This isn't Windows anymore, it should be called "Gay colored OS for touchy devices, used by dumb people who can't click a mouse. Version 1.0"
..
Well, I can see by your comment that you haven't quite graduated from HS yet and therefore any comment that you post should be take as lightly as a insult from a 5yo....CakaPoopoohead. Your commnet basically sums up any haters opinion. It is genuinely childish, uninformed and to be ignored. You provide no actual arguement, but instead you show absolutely no regard for social normality or even respect for the people you converse with. If you had said this to anyones face, they would have either laughed at you and walked away, or smacked you for your disrespect.

As far as a TRUE experience with W8 on a destop. I can move between programs efficiently with a mouse, you would think I've been using it for years. Its really not that hard. If you are complaining about it, I feel really bad for you, because it truely so simple. And you may not like the appearence, which is totally cool...you don't have to like what it looks like. But I don't like the look of the new Jaguar convertable, but that doesn't mean it drives like a Kia. So please, learn a little respect, self control, and most of all realize the difference between opinion and fact. Then you'll have a comment on some petty forum topic, that might actually help someone instead of proving you really have nothing to offer other than disrespectful abusive language.

 

[daglesj]

I'm loving all these folks telling people to "come on over to linux! You'll love it!"

Yeah you'll love it till the moment you have to ask for some advice or support and then its..

"F*** off noob!" or "F*** off and don't ask until you've used it a year and learnt some stuff!"

Thanks I'll reinstall Windows then!

Great OS, crappy users!

If linux is to get a real foothold a major corporation has to get behind it, basically buy it up and get rid of 99% of the other distros. Then a properly managed support network can be setup and standards achieved. Yep it totally goes against the ethos of Linux but currently the old phrase 'divide and conquer' is working a charm against linux.

 

[RADIO_ACTIVE]

[citation][nom]JackFrost860[/nom]As a small game’s developer I welcome Microsoft app store. It gives small company developers a distribution point which the likes of Stream don’t. The big producers and distributors are screaming about what is actually nothing more than competition. Nobody is being forced to use the app store. Windows market place was around long before Win8.[/citation]Totally agree.

 

[ejb222]

[citation][nom]daglesj[/nom]I'm loving all these folks telling people to "come on over to linux! You'll love it!"Yeah you'll love it till the moment you have to ask for some advice or support and then its.."F*** off noob!" or "F*** off and don't ask until you've used it a year and learnt some stuff!"Thanks I'll reinstall Windows then!Great OS, crappy users!If linux is to get a real foothold a major corporation has to get behind it, basically buy it up and get rid of 99% of the other distros. Then a properly managed support network can be setup and standards achieved. Yep it totally goes against the ethos of Linux but currently the old phrase 'divide and conquer' is working a charm against linux.[/citation]
Yeah, I can totally see it now. I load Ubuntu onto my Mother's PC. Then when she needs any sort of support, she's going to have to research like she's in college to manage her computer and all the software she wants to put on it(and research how to run the software on it to begin with). I really don't think 90% of PC users want to deal with that. It may be fun for the enthusiast...but most peoples arent enthusiasts.