Microsoft Responds to Windows 8 Hate From Game Devs

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aminebouhafs

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I have an idea!

Why don't all of us boycot Windows 8 and keep using older Windows.
Maybe they'll wake up from hibernation.

But! It's just an idea.
 

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it also sucks that win8 won't let you execute apps with the built-in admin account. :(

i'm a power user who only use the built-in admin account so i'll never be able to run metro apps. oh, well. no big lost. :p
 
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Uhm... isn't it clear that Linux is the best choice? What's not to love? openGL, and a totally free and clear developer framework where the community listens! If devs wrote games for Linux, I'd be buying! I remember when id wrote Quake3 for Linux and I was proud to go out and BUY my copy. I was impressed with the gameplay in Linux too... super smooth like oil & plastic sheets!
 

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I don't see the problem with making games for Windows 8. I run Starcraft 2, which is installed on my Windows 7 partition, on Windows 8 by running the .exe on the Win 7 partition. Found that out by accident, but it works just fine. Only thing is that I haven't actually installed my motherboard drivers yet, so in OS overclocking is something that I haven't done atm. But I don't have much time for games, anyway.
 
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"Could this be why the Android-based OUYA has become so popular? Is the industry looking for something new, something outside the Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo closed-console universe?"
This last line says it all, the author doesnt know what aspect is being compared, a console or a PC OS.
Win 8 as long as it can be downward compatible all is well. Iam sure it will beat osx any day.
 
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There is not one new feature in Windows 8 that is worth paying for upgrading from Windows 7. So It is a wait I guess now till Windows 9 for me!
 

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Dude did you not know that 90% of PC users would have no clue how to run linux(or even install it)....let alone install Wine to run EXE etc. If you want to use Linux, thats cool. But there is no way that the majority of PC users will switch to Linux.
 

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[citation][nom]nirmalien[/nom]not only is microsoft going to lose out against android in the mobile turf, but stupid decisions like these will give google a chance to enter the desktop space.[/citation]
Google has already tried to compete with MS in the PC market....and has thus far failed miserably. Just google "ChromeOS".... It's a linux based OS that depends on a constant internet connection. Google made the mistake of trying to force "the cloud" on users with ChromeOS... Unless Google drops the "cloud" BS and the requirement of a constant internet connection from their ChromeOS, it'll never be able to compete with Windows.
 

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I gotta admit. If they make it multi platform I will go out buy a Xbox instead of Playstation and get Windows 8. Hopefully they lock out Origin and leave Steam.
 

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[citation][nom]ejb222[/nom]Dude did you not know that 90% of PC users would have no clue how to run linux(or even install it)....let alone install Wine to run EXE etc. If you want to use Linux, thats cool. But there is no way that the majority of PC users will switch to Linux.[/citation]

Wine is un-stable. Yes, Ive tried it.
 
[citation][nom]uglynerdman[/nom]i think its because they might make the direct x api and the windows live market place along with your apps all one big cluster everything linked together crap bucket. that will constantly check anything you have with windows live online etc. i can totally see this being pidgeonholed this way.[/citation]

kids, today's word of the day is:

pidgeonholed
 
[citation][nom]sykozis[/nom]Google has already tried to compete with MS in the PC market....and has thus far failed miserably. Just google "ChromeOS".... It's a linux based OS that depends on a constant internet connection. Google made the mistake of trying to force "the cloud" on users with ChromeOS... Unless Google drops the "cloud" BS and the requirement of a constant internet connection from their ChromeOS, it'll never be able to compete with Windows.[/citation]

Chrome OS was only made for netbook class devices. besides the last thing the world needs is another linux distro
 

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[citation][nom]marcolorenzo[/nom]I don't know why people think that Windows 8 will become a "closed garden" and force out services like Steam. After all, OS X is probably the most closed OS currently in existence and they still have Steam...[/citation]

Steam can suck a fat one. I really miss the days where you just installed a game, updated it with an automated patch, and played the game online.
 

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If this turns out the way conspiracy theorists are claiming (and a very scary possible reality at that), then this could smell like the Internet Explorer monopoly fiasco from over a decade ago.
 

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There's really no reason to "upgrade" to windows 8 for gamers, I just did a little test for myself with BF3, EXACT same performance between windows VISTA and windows 8. (+or- 1fps). Waste of money.
 

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[citation][nom]belardo[/nom]Make the games for Linux... and the people will come.[/citation]
They tried once. The issue was, which distro do you support. The developers soon discovered they had to have people to cover ALL of them which increased costs for not many customers so it quickly fizzled.
 

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[citation][nom]belardo[/nom]Make the games for Linux... and the people will come.[/citation]

Until they see the terrible choices made with Unity and Gnome 3... then they'll just reinstall Windows 7.

This is a sad era for PCs.
 

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[citation][nom]wildkitten[/nom]They tried once. The issue was, which distro do you support. The developers soon discovered they had to have people to cover ALL of them which increased costs for not many customers so it quickly fizzled.[/citation]

...Or they can not be stupid and officially support 1 (Ubuntu... as Valve mentioned). Besides, most distros use similar packaging and desktop environments, so it isn't like you're developing for TONS of completely different distros.

Support the popular distros and desktop environments and the rest will work itself out.
 

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It's so goofy it's hard to credit some of these people, like Newell with his "catastrophe" statement, with any ability to think at all.

Brad Wardell utterly misses the whole philosophy that has always, always been behind the Microsoft operating systems for PCs; be all things for all people as much as possible. Run on all the hardware it can. Allow everyone to write programs for it. That's was the philosophy the IBM Personal Computer was built on, and it is the foundation to this day of the PC.

Then there's DirectX. Microsoft doesn't spend all that money on an application suite targeted directly at gaming for no reason at all. They haven't made it the best suite in the industry in order to prevent people from creating games for Windows. They haven't supported game developers across the world in using DirectX so they can pull the proverbial rug out from under them.

I am convinced that Newell is a crook. I've often wondered why no one came along and did what Steam does, except better, because Steam was terrible for a long time and only in the last couple of years has it come to be reliable enough that game devs want to include Steamworks with their games. I think Newell is the Steve Jobs of gaming, and HE is the one that wants a closed system, not Microsoft; all he is trying to do is misdirect people so they don't smell the stinky deals he's made to put Steam in the position it is today.

Blizzard - oh boy, I'm beginning to wonder why I ever liked that company. No, I do know why, they used to be a company of gamers that made games they were enthusiastic about. They've lost that, and now we have people like Rob Pardo whose entire thrust is to turn Blizzard into another social medium, a place you are hooked into to connect with your friends. A place you come to gossip while you keep your hands busy with a "game". The direction World of Warcraft has taken shows that, and the online-only Diablo 3 is strong evidence if not proof of what I'm talking about.

What we are seeing here is people trying to lock in gamers to their format that are afraid of competing with Microsoft - and nothing else. Okay maybe some of them are just Chicken Little types running around screaming that the sky is falling, and are just ignorant and not trying to smear Microsoft's image like a crooked politician against his competition, but the big mouths behind the complaints are doing just that.
 

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Windows 8 is little more than a tool to force people to buy more Microsoft products, or to make micro transaction profits from those they do allow.

Just proves they are becoming Apple 2.0
 
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There needs to be a gaming version of Linux that everybody supports, the gaming companies (Valve,etc.) need to join forces and select the best linux distrabution for gaming, and develop for that platform. The gaming desktop and laptop companies need to develop standardized hardware drivers that can be used on any intel or amd cpu based motherboards. Creating standardized Hardware drivers that can be used across any hardware platform is the only way to prevent the big computer OEM's AND Microsoft from locking Linux out of a wider market. Remeber The larger Computer OEMs are no different than Mcrosoft with their desire to controll the maket, and lock the smaller players out of the game, even If this means that the Gaming companys have to develop their one branded computers to do this, then it may have to be done!
 
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Microsoft has one game in mind when it comes to Win 8, and that game is total market domination, Windows 8 is the slippery slope that will end at the drop off to a bottoless pit! In Microsoft's view the only rules to this game is: We at Microsoft Make the rules, You the gamer, Will play by our rules! Its a long way down.
 
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