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Nice news, Im currently away from the topic cuz im doing many things right now and they keep me busy. Ill be checking if there is any other important thing about teh 590
 
Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe
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My god.....do not buy that motherboard if you're trying to run Q-SLI or over 2 mb of ram.

The large amount of memory on the Video cards is causing some kind of conflict where it only detects 1 gb of ram. I flashed a beta bios in the mobo to a new beta version and it detected 2 gb. Wheres my other 2? lol. 4 gb does not work in this board...period.

Also, the Asus updater for upgrading your bios WILL NOT WORK if you have a newer sound blaster card. Some really goofy NT error pops up and won't let you use the program. I FORMATTED everything, started over, ran the Asus update program first and got it to work. I then installed my SB X-fi and bam.....the updater didn't work again.

On top of all that....2 of my hard drives were bad. One caused Windows not to load at all, the other just couldn't be formatted. Talk about a retarded day.

So in the end, I got that craptastic board above and it was a waste. WAIT FOR THE 590 chipset. I'd also suggest a manufacturer OTHER than Asus if this is typical of their high end products.

So now I get to rip apart the PC I just built and start waiting all over again. BAHThanks for the update. So I guess I will have to wait for P5N32 SLI Premium but it seems pretty expensive.
 
I heard of the slight compatibility issues that the nforce4 and SB X-Fi had (static and pops in sound), but does anyone know if this problem has been resolved for the nForce 5 series for Intel or if the latest drivers resolved this completely? I am in the process of building a new PC and currently have an X-Fi Fatality FPS still in its box but have been waiting for the new Asus 590 chipset board to come out since I would prefer to go with nVidia cards.

But if the problem is still persistent, I may be inclined to go to the Asus 975X board and go with ATI.

Below is the preliminary setup of what I intend on building:
Core2 Duo E6700
Corsair XMS TWIN2X 2GB PC6400C4 (will goto 4GB after Vista release)
Corsair HX620 PSU (already ordered)
Asus board (590 or 975X)
ATI X1950XTX (1) or Geforce 7950GT (1 or 2)
2-4 WD Caviar RE 250GB SATA drives
X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS (received, still in box)
Plextor PX-755 sata or PX-760 ide DVD-RW
Antec Performance One P180 case (already ordered)

The PC will be used for a wide range of uses: lots of gaming, moderate to heavy photo editing (digital camera and scans), work, virtual server tinkering (XP, Server 2003, Linux), music, movies, etc.
Anyone know the answer, have suggestions?

Thanks!
Paul
 
Since this is a Completely Brand New Model of motherboard series with new chipsets that problem (if any existed before cuz i never heard of them) should have been fixed.

Also, Please when you install your card, use last sound drivers from the creative page.
 
I ran a Creative X-fi on an Asus A8N SLI deluxe (nForce 4) and had the crackling problem. And I fixed it too. Simplest thing.

Quick note though - it was the X-Fi card PLUGGED INTO the 5.25" bay controller. Unplugging the 5.25" controller fixed the problem. The connecting cable is a typical 40 pin PATA cable. So, I bought a shielded cable and re-connected the controller. No crackling noise WITH the shielded cable.

Your mileage may vary.
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Not sure if this will help...
 
Thanks for the info. Will give that a try if the problem does occur. But to clarify what the issue was supposedly caused from is Creative made a statement saying that after releaseing a driver update in hopes to fix the problem, they still noticed users reporting issues. They noticied that the users experiencing the problem was fairly specific to the nForce4 boards. They then did further testing on the nForce4 boards and found the sound issue was occurring due to an increase in latency on the PCI bus. The latency was not within the design tolerances of the sound card (and out of spec for most other things too) so the sound card was unable to compensate for the long delays. The long delays would cause the crackle and static sound when sound was outputted through the card. Hopefully it is just specific to the nForce4 chipset and not the 5 series. Thanks again for everyone's help and feel free to chime in with other suggestions or input.

Paul
 
Wish there was something to say. As far as I know there is only 1(?) review of a 590 reference board out there, anandtech I think. This has been such a huge paradigm shift that everyone is in the same boat, with no access to a true production 590 board. It's hard to say what problems have been resolved until the board is actually released and reviewed. Having said that, I'm still on the fence as to whether or not I buy the board as soon as I can (I'm an Asus fan) or wait to see what it can do. ATM I have everything but a board and CPU, and CPU will definitely be core2.

Come to think of it, wtf is the problem? Why the pissing contest between Nvidia and Intel? I'm happy AMD and ATI got together because now Nvidia and Intel have to play together. But the question remains, why do Nvidia and Intel appear to not want to work together?
 
We’ve also been hearing reports about the upcoming nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition chipset for Core 2 processors. This chipset is based on the now aging NVIDIA C19 chipset which some Taiwan motherboard manufactures are not impressed with. In fact, NVIDIA recently issued an announcement to motherboard companies saying that the C19 chipset will be phased out very soon and replaced by the newer and more refined C55 chipset in October. The C19 chipset maxes out at around 350MHz FSB which is one of the main reasons the Taiwanese folk were not impressed with the chipset, especially the companies interested in producing highly overclockable boards – and that’s most companies these days. With Intel’s P965 chipset, while not as fast as 975X, we’ve seen reports of the FSB hitting the 500MHz FSB mark. There are no official testing numbers on C55 FSB overclocking but being a refined chipset using newer technology, it is expected to beat the older C19 easily.
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That really gave me a headache! So what will this C55 chipset be called? nForce5500SLI? I can't wait any longer than this month, so I might end up buying a 965 mobo (Maybe Gigabyte DQ6) 🙁
 
As I understand it the MCP55 was always intended for the 590 Intel Edition board. AnandTech.com states as much in there 22 Aug 06 review of the 570 mobo
The NVIDIA nForce 590SLI caters to the high end gamer and enthusiast while the nForce 570SLI is targeting the value performance sector for users interested in SLI capability. The 590SLI utilizes the C51XE SPP with the 570SLI utilizing the C19A SPP. The 590SLI uses the new MCP55 from the AM2 nForce 500 product lines and the 570SLI is utilizing the current MCP51. The major difference in the two products is the availability of dual X16 PCI Express lanes on the 590SLI compared to dual X8 PCI Express lanes on the 570SLI for SLI operation. The other differences reside primarily in the MCP with the 590SLI offering DualNet networking technology, two additional USB ports, and two additional SATA 3Gb/s ports at the expense of an IDE port. Now let's take a closer look at the features this board offers.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2820
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We’ve also been hearing reports about the upcoming nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition chipset for Core 2 processors. This chipset is based on the now aging NVIDIA C19 chipset which some Taiwan motherboard manufactures are not impressed with. In fact, NVIDIA recently issued an announcement to motherboard companies saying that the C19 chipset will be phased out very soon and replaced by the newer and more refined C55 chipset in October. The C19 chipset maxes out at around 350MHz FSB which is one of the main reasons the Taiwanese folk were not impressed with the chipset, especially the companies interested in producing highly overclockable boards – and that’s most companies these days. With Intel’s P965 chipset, while not as fast as 975X, we’ve seen reports of the FSB hitting the 500MHz FSB mark. There are no official testing numbers on C55 FSB overclocking but being a refined chipset using newer technology, it is expected to beat the older C19 easily.
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Please correct me if I am wrong...but tests have shown that with the power and speed of the chips out today, the CPU is not the bottleneck for gaming - video always is! The fact that the C19 FSB will limit OC potential is a bummer for sure - however, the real world outcome of the C55 probably will not be as impressive for the 'gamer' as it sounds on paper. I know the OC'ing community may have more to offer on this, but my impression is that the bottle neck for those of us running very high resolution games will not be the CPU and the cons of severely overclocking (i.e. stability issues and decreased life potential) may not outweigh the pros, as far as gaming is concerned.

By no means am I happy to hear that the C55 will not be standard on the 590 MB and that the boards OCing will be limited compared to what I have read regarding C55. I am just not convinced that it is as devastating as some people perceive it to be.

I would love for someone more knowledgeable than me on this subject to provide their thoughts?
 
Man I'm not sure about this board anymore. I'm doing a mid-to-high upgrade. Meaning i'm buying parts for my future dx10 system (ddr2-1000 ram, 700watt psu, core 2 duo e6600) but i'm also buying a few parts just to hold me over (7900gt).

I was hoping the 590sli motherboard would be my final upgrade for the dx10 cards, but it seems that I should wait for newer and finalized technology.

I think i'm going to go with the Asus P5B Deluxe (intel 965).
 
DFI obviously recognizes how outdated the C19 chipset is, and are confident enough in their market share to turn their focus to the being the first mobo maker on the block with the C55 590s for Intel Core. If you are gathering parts for a Direct X10 Conroe based system, you would do best to wait for the C55s.
 
DFI obviously recognizes how outdated the C19 chipset is, and are confident enough in their market share to turn their focus to the being the first mobo maker on the block with the C55 590s for Intel Core. If you are gathering parts for a Direct X10 Conroe based system, you would do best to wait for the C55s.
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looks like the wait will be a little longer but I'm not in that much of a rush to get this new rig built.
 
The C55 will easily beat the C19...

I agree, well this time we have been waited for is almost a deception? I now dont know... should I spend $300 on the board I was waiting for?... Im not decided yet. Maybe I should just get a 975x right? and wait for the C55... But I dont know.... Please pros recommend me!!!
 
I did a little research and the c55 isnt even scheduled to be released by NVidia until the end of the year. And you know how that goes. I guess its wise to wait until this board proves what it can do in terms of overclockability if thats what you were after. However with the right cpu/multiplier its not out of the question. Its a very nice board you cant deny.
 
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