XeenRecoil,
Please hear me out (this is not intended as a flame, but a request to consider your comments). I think the replies you have recieved are based on your comments--I think they are inflamitory, and that is why people have responded the way they have. Beyond your <b>fanATIc</b> comment (which is uncalled for, even if you think it is witty), note the bolds from your own comments:
"This is so <b>unrealistic</b> its <b>ludicrous</b>, the guy used a Cascade Compressor system, <b>which needless to say no one has</b>, so any benchmarking done with that setup is <b>bullshit</b> because <b>no one can duplicate it without spending a retarded amount of money</b> for the cooling setup <b>which no one is going to do</b>, so NEXT..."
Remember, the ATi OC response was in reply to nVidia releasing benchmarks of 2 6800Ultras in SLI. This is the setting of your comments. Now I will try to break down WHY some of us are offended by your replies.
Breakdown:
<b>unrealistic</b> It is real, and thus realistic. If you mean unrealistic as in impractical, the reality is (a) they exist in the enthusist market where SLI is marketed, and (b) is infinately more available than SLI at the moement. Since your comments are chiding this OC compared to a product not available it is very one sided.
<b>ludicrous</b> No more ludicrous than nVidia releasing benchmarks from hardware setups unavailable at the present time. Actually, since it is possible and available, it is less ludicrous than the nVidia SLI setup. Personally, I think the SLI thing is overblown (reasons in my post above). They have been singing about it for what, almost 4 months? And yet no product. Releasing benchmarks on a product not available is not really fair... it would have been funny if ATI had released benchies for their R520
Now that would be about as ludicrous.
<b>which needless to say no one has</b> This is a <i>
FALSE</i> statement. While it would have been nice for someone to politely correct you, this forum seems to have a very short tolerance for fanboy statements that are in error, especially when coupled with statements like...
<b>bullshit</b> This is uncalled for. If you use tough/offensive language, do not complain when others retort in kind. Best way to get respect is to give respect. Anyhow, as in my reply, ATi's response is LESS "bullshit" than nVidia's because I can get a multistage cooling system. They exist, they can be purchased. SLI cannot. Who is selling the cow pies now??
<b>no one can duplicate it without spending a <i>retarded</i> amount of money</b> XeenRecoil, lets consider the cost of a SLI system:
6800 Ultra ($560) x 2 = $1120 @ newegg.com *
Tumwater PCIe MB x 1 = $441 @ ewiz.com
Xeon 3.2GHz 800MHz FSB ($475) x 1 = $475 @ newegg.com
SLI Bridge Chip x 1 = $? (Unavilable)
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Total Cost: <b>
<i>$2,036+</b></i>
I could not even find a PCI Express Ultra or GT board on pricewatch. The board I quote above is an AGP board.
Anyhow, your comment about <i>retarded</i> amounts of money is very applicable to the current cost of a dual 6800 Ultra PCIe setup--and yet, with $2k you STILL cannot do SLI. NO BRIDGE CHIP. And good luck finding 2 6800Ultras.
Insane OCs and SLI setups are for the devoted Enthusist market. To begrudge a segment of this market in favor of another, while clearly ignoring the realities of the current circumstances, is not fair--especially with your use of strong language.
<b>which no one is going to do</b> People are and do have multistage cooling systems for insane Overclocks. There is a website devoted to this. NO ONE (that I have heard about) has a nVidia SLI setup. Again, your comment is false.
Overall, your comments are pretty harsh, and some even false. Add in your <b>fanATIc</b> comment and you may see why you have ruffled a few feathers. I am against flaming 100%--so a miscomment is not a reason to flame. Yet people flame on these forums all the time because someone asks a dumb question or makes a mistake. It is sad in my opinion. Flaming someone who flames is counterproductive. But we should try to inform and not defame.
I hope you can see how your comments are inflammitory and can result in negative responses. I agree with someone else here--if you want respect, you need to show respect.
Btw, welcome to the forums and enjoy yourself here. There are a lot of nice, knowledgable people. Everyone has a bad day here or there, but overall most of the guys here are great--especially TheGreatGrapeApe.
Ps- I am not defending nVidia or ATi. I like both companies and products. Some better than others... and have some issues with both in certain areas like marketing and such. Just my opinions... but I am not a nVidiot or fanATIc... I am just a normal idiot and fan