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right let me start by saying u guys are a helpfull bunch :D

i have never overclocked and decided its about time but i havent a clue how to do it, if someone could plz talk me through this with like, step 1. step 2. etc etc.. i would be greatful :)

my system:

asus p4s800d
p4 2.8e prescott
2x 256mb twinmos in dual
saphire 9800pro
wd 80gb hdd
etc etc

if it is posible i would like to get it upto around 3.2ghz i have 2 case fans and a half decent cpu fan & heatsink (will get new if needed)

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Read my guide on the top of this forum. It has step by step instructions.

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u say the prescott runs hot ive seen all over the place that it does, i know its not much 2.8 < 3.2 but will this produce much of a heat increase?

ive just looked through your guide and im sry to say im a noob and dont understand much like the timmings and the ratio stuff. if its not to much trouble for someone could they jot it down here idiot proff for me? hehe ty
 

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What you should do before you overclock is run prime 95 for a while see how high your temps get.What type of heatsink fan do you have? the stock one?

Here cut from scotts guide
These are Intel's newest 0.09 micron technology CPUs, they're suppose to scale better than the 0.13 micron Northwoods, but the current C0 revision has a heat issue, therefore it's not a great overclocker compare to NorthwoodC, and these chips at the same frequency, performs worse than Northwood. Just refer to the overclocking guide of NorthwoodC if you own one of these but there is one thing that's different.

The change is that these CPUs are on the 0.09micron technology, therefore vcore above 1.55 will not help, and at that it'll make sure your chip lasts for a few years. These chips generally could reach to about 3.6Ghz on good air, and about 3.8Ghz on water, 4.0-4.1Ghz on Prometeia.


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the fans i got arnt stock but they aint anything special will get 2 new case fans and new cpu fan/heatsink (any recomendations for all 3 welcome) as they sound like my pc in a F1 wind tunnel testing out for silverstone, i will benchmark for heat a bit later.
 

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Ethier swiftech of thermalright heatsinks are the way to go.

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Go for watercooling, i believe it's a better investement than hsf, since all you need to do is to buy socket adaptors, instead of a whole heatsink.

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well i havent overclocked it yet but at idle it seems to run at about 47c - 50c when i play farcry it hits upto 64c acording to asus probe :( this is with stock cooling is this about normal?
 

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Yes it's normal, Prescotts are HOT! But Intel still wants you to stay under 72C.

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For a prescott this is normal I think, they can tolerate higher temps than the northwoods. However you are going to need a better hsf if you do overclock because it will produce more heat.

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Pick up a coolermaster Hyper6, it comes with 1 80mm fan, but buy another quite one, with dual fan setup, this should lower your load temp by at least 10, with the use of AS5 or ceramique.

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I wasn't able to find that cooler on frozencpu or the heatsink factory.

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Do you really want to buy something from a <A HREF="http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=7307&Category_Code=" target="_new">canadian</A> site?

There's that whole import/export duties crap.

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ive looked up the hyper 6 <A HREF="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Coolermaster_122.html" target="_new">http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Coolermaster_122.html</A> but it dont come with a fan :/ or is this the wrong 1?
 

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It does come with a fan, they don't show it, but it comes with a silent fan, pick up a 80mm panaflo or papst fan low airflow fan, so you'll have a dual silent fan setup.

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Thermalright SP-97. Best heatsink. Period.

Couple that with a fan with atleast a 70 CFM rating. Make sure the fan comes with a controller so you really only have to turn up the RPM's of the fan while you are gaming or benching.

Have the D0 steppings STILL not come out?
 

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Or you could go with this new thermalright <A HREF="http://www.systemcooling.com/thermalright_xp120-01.html" target="_new">http://www.systemcooling.com/thermalright_xp120-01.html</A>

Btw panther the p4 version is the sp-94 the amd version is the sp-97 :)

I know whats up that is intel ever going to relase the D0 stepping in the US?

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Hyper6 beats Thermalright's SP series, that's why Thermalright released the AX-120.

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Right you are.

OMG I had no idea there was this much competition in the heatsink field. Well I will have to refrain from what i said. The xp 120 is the best heatsink right now. But they arent in production.. yet?

Also, the coolermaster looks really nice but the best price i could find on it was around 55 USD.

Best price I could find the SP 94 is 40 USD

NOW CHECK THIS OUT!: Thermalright SLK-947U for 20 USD! man what a steal
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I'm getting chilled water setup:D

Garbage can with peltiers for reservoir, Toyota Corolla Heatercore for radiator.

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is the fan built inside the Hyper 6 KHC-V81? ive just seen it on their website it says it has 1 but i cant see it, the other thing u say get a 2nd fan is that to screw it to the side of the heat sink? <A HREF="http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=KHC-V81&other_title=+KHC-V81+Hyper 6&PHPSESSID=3740febfc789f790727bf5d0629bfa70" target="_new">http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=KHC-V81&other_title=+KHC-V81+Hyper 6&PHPSESSID=3740febfc789f790727bf5d0629bfa70</A>
 

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No the fan is not built in, it's a separate 80mm fan which you have to screw in once you get the whole package. If you buy another 80mm fan, you just screw it in on the other side.

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ah it all makes sence now :) ive orderd that heastsink and also orderd a new fan <A HREF="http://www.vantec.com.tw/stealth_fan.html" target="_new">http://www.vantec.com.tw/stealth_fan.html</A> hopefully be nice and quite, they should be here monday tuesday.

at the moment idle is 44-45c and full load is 66-67c i will post results of new temp when they come
 

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