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>Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote in
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>
>> Ditto. Sometimes I wish there was a way to /ignore twitname+every
>> character associated with the underlying account.
>
>With the new global chat, isn't that an option?? I know (or at least I
>think I know) that there is a global ignore tab in the window.

I don't know, since I haven't played with global chat at all yet.

I'll have to take a look and see.

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Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
>>> Ditto. Sometimes I wish there was a way to /ignore twitname+every
>>> character associated with the underlying account.

>> With the new global chat, isn't that an option?? I know (or at least I
>> think I know) that there is a global ignore tab in the window.

> I don't know, since I haven't played with global chat at all yet.
> I'll have to take a look and see.

I *think* /ghide and /gignore only hides you/them in global chat, not in
all chat windows. I could be wrong. I was wrong once; interesting
experience.

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Dark Tyger wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:22:38 GMT, Zoiks! <zoiks@shaggy.com> wrote:
>
>>John Parkinson wrote...
>>> Marc Bissonnette wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>> Others do think they're rude. And try being a regen scrapper ....
>>> >>>
>>> >>>One of my mains /is/ a regen scrapper. Of my three main toons, only the
>>> >>>invul/SS tanker gets a substantial number of blind /invites, and most of
>>> >>>those have turned out well.
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, then, either you're lying about the blind invites being rare on
>>> >> your regen scrapper or you've somehow gotten a reputation as an ass
>>> >> and even the idiots don't wanna associate with you. The only other
>>> >> possibility is you've been -EXTREMELY- lucky.
>>> >
>>> > Sigh. He's not lying because *I've* got a regen/spines scrapper and the
>>> > blind invites certainly aren't flying about willy nilly.
>>>
>>> Ditto.
>>>
>>> eg, I was in CoH for....(quick count)...about 28 hours this weekend, all
>>> as my Regen Scrapper and I got a total count of 0 (zero) blind invites.
>>>
>>> I was probably teamed for a lot of that time, true, so I suppose I should
>>> allow for the chance that people were trying and failing.
>>>
>>> But I've probably had a total of 5 blind invites in 41 levels.
>>
>>I also rarely get blind invites with my 41 bs/regen on guardian, or my
>>34 spines/regen on pinnacle.
>
> Well, I guess the question is how much time do you spend soloing? If
> you solo infrequently, then the blind invite problem doesn't seem as
> bad. Especially if you don't solo often during peak hours...

I solo about 75% of the time, I reckon. Although I plan to do more
teaming in my 40s with all the AV missions.

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Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote:
> Well, I guess the question is how much time do you spend soloing? If
> you solo infrequently, then the blind invite problem doesn't seem as
> bad. Especially if you don't solo often during peak hours...

Or maybe /your/ experience is unusual. Or maybe you're just too
sensitive about it.
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:26:50 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye"
<bradd+news@szonye.com> wrote:

>Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote:
>> Well, I guess the question is how much time do you spend soloing? If
>> you solo infrequently, then the blind invite problem doesn't seem as
>> bad. Especially if you don't solo often during peak hours...
>
>Or maybe /your/ experience is unusual. Or maybe you're just too
>sensitive about it.

Conversely, maybe since it doesn't seem to bother you, you don't take
note of it when it happens.

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:51:37 GMT, Marc Bissonnette
<dragnet@internalysis.com> wrote:

> Sure, but I think the changing of the seek team option could satisfy many
> more people if a third option were added so that it ended up with:
>
> [ ]Seeking Team [ ]Soloing (no invites) [ ]No preference
> or even add a fourth:
> [ ]Seek team from friends / SG only
>
> (Actually, the "No preference", or current default, is unneeded, since
> not depressing any of the other three would indicate no seek status.)

I'd be very happy with that.

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Zoiks! wrote:
>> The seek team button is just a simpler, and more universal, way of
>> broadcasting 'looking for a team'...

Xocyll wrote:
> Except it doesn't broadcast anything - it just notifies people who are
> looking at the team lookup that those people are looking to team.

That /is/ broadcasting, good grief!
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:19:05 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye"
<bradd+news@szonye.com> wrote:

>Zoiks! wrote:
>>> The seek team button is just a simpler, and more universal, way of
>>> broadcasting 'looking for a team'...
>
>Xocyll wrote:
>> Except it doesn't broadcast anything - it just notifies people who are
>> looking at the team lookup that those people are looking to team.
>
>That /is/ broadcasting, good grief!

No, it's holding up a sign.

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Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:19:05 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye"
><bradd+news@szonye.com> wrote:
>
>>Zoiks! wrote:
>>>> The seek team button is just a simpler, and more universal, way of
>>>> broadcasting 'looking for a team'...
>>
>>Xocyll wrote:
>>> Except it doesn't broadcast anything - it just notifies people who are
>>> looking at the team lookup that those people are looking to team.
>>
>>That /is/ broadcasting, good grief!
>
> No, it's holding up a sign.

You're hopeless.
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:29:00 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye"
<bradd+news@szonye.com> wrote:

>Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:19:05 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye"
>><bradd+news@szonye.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Zoiks! wrote:
>>>>> The seek team button is just a simpler, and more universal, way of
>>>>> broadcasting 'looking for a team'...
>>>
>>>Xocyll wrote:
>>>> Except it doesn't broadcast anything - it just notifies people who are
>>>> looking at the team lookup that those people are looking to team.
>>>
>>>That /is/ broadcasting, good grief!
>>
>> No, it's holding up a sign.
>
>You're hopeless.

Broadcasting is an active, continual effort. Turning on an LFT flag is
a single active effort, but passive to maintain.

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:22:37 GMT, Zoiks! <zoiks@shaggy.com> scribed into
the ether:

>Dark Tyger wrote...
>> Ah, yes, I see you fall for the delusional bullshit that playing an
>> MMORPG means you should be willing to team all the time... That, or
>> you've run out of arguments and fallen back on the old strawmen.
>
>Playing a co-operative multi-player game means you should expect that
>playing with others is the norm...

It isn't cooperative multiplayer, it is massively multiplayer.

>Sending a 'blind' invite is not rude.

Yea, it really is.

 

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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:26:50 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye" <bradd+news@szonye.com>
scribed into the ether:

>Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote:
>> Well, I guess the question is how much time do you spend soloing? If
>> you solo infrequently, then the blind invite problem doesn't seem as
>> bad. Especially if you don't solo often during peak hours...
>
>Or maybe /your/ experience is unusual.

It's not. Especially bad if I get a mission door in the Hollows. The
instant I zone in, I invariably get a team invite from someone I've never
heard of. Often in the 30 seconds or so it takes me to bounce to the door,
I get between 2 and 7 (that was a bad day) more. The Hollows are the worst,
but it happens everywhere.

> Or maybe you're just too
>sensitive about it.

Possible, but unlikely.

 

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:59:42 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye" <bradd+news@szonye.com>
scribed into the ether:

>Xocyll wrote:
>> If they don't have LFT on, then they are making it obvious they aren't
>> looking for a team.
>
>Repeating this does not make it true.

That it is correct is what makes it true.

 

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:11:02 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye" <bradd+news@szonye.com>
scribed into the ether:

>Bradd wrote:
>>> See, you implicitly recognize that LFT is an advertisement. However,
>>> you fail to recognize that "no advertisement" is not synonymous with
>>> "do not disturb." That's what /hide is for.
>
>Xocyll wrote:
>> You can parrot this all you like and it will never make it true.
>
>Are you claiming that LFT is not an advertisement?

That's the one thing you get right.

> Are you claiming that /hide does not mean "do not disturb"?

It does not.

 

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"Bradd W. Szonye" <bradd+news@szonye.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>Zoiks! wrote:
>>> The seek team button is just a simpler, and more universal, way of
>>> broadcasting 'looking for a team'...
>
>Xocyll wrote:
>> Except it doesn't broadcast anything - it just notifies people who are
>> looking at the team lookup that those people are looking to team.
>
>That /is/ broadcasting, good grief!

It's not broadcasting anymore than placing an advert in the local
classifieds.

It's only apparent _if you're looking at it_.

The chat channels are broadcasting - you're presented with the
information whether you want it or not.
When bob broadcasts "looking for team" I now know he's looking for a
team, without ME having to do anything to find out.
Just like radio in fact.

When he sets his LFT flag, I have to be using team seek in order to see
that flag. Just like the classifieds.

One requires you to be ACTIVELY seeking it, the other doesn't.

Since people aren't looking at that flag anyway, and inviting people who
don't have it set, just how aware are they that it's even there?

On for two hours last night, multiple blind invites and two more people
in the ignore list due to repeated invites.
One even sent a tell after i'd declined, and was told I was going to log
off after leveling, and sent another invite a few minutes later.

I also noticed several broadcast of people saying "not accepting blind
invites", "lft isn't set, so stop inviting".

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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:46:00 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:

> It's not broadcasting anymore than placing an advert in the local
> classifieds.
>
> It's only apparent _if you're looking at it_.

Someone need to tell the television people that they aren't
broadcasting, because you can only see the shows if you turn the TV
on.

(If I were to invoke the 5th Column, would this thread be over?

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>On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:46:00 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
>
>> It's not broadcasting anymore than placing an advert in the local
>> classifieds.
>>
>> It's only apparent _if you're looking at it_.
>
>Someone need to tell the television people that they aren't
>broadcasting, because you can only see the shows if you turn the TV
>on.

Now you're being silly.

Once the TV (or radio) is on, you don't have to actively do anything to
be exposed to what it's broadcasting, you just have to be in range.
You can also be actively doing something else while the TV is on, bit
hard to read the newspaper while actively doing something else.

And that's the point, if you're broadcasting, people are getting the
message with no effort on their part, LFT doesn't fit that category,
while broadcast/request/Friends/SG chat/Tells/etc do.

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The Black Guardian <blakgard@aol.com> wrote:
> Bradd W. Szonye wrote:
>> Dark Tyger wrote:
>>> Bradd W. Szonye wrote:
>>>> Zoiks! wrote:
>>>>>> The seek team button is just a simpler, and more universal, way
> of
>>>>>> broadcasting 'looking for a team'...
>>>>>>
>>>> Xocyll wrote:
>>>>> Except it doesn't broadcast anything - it just notifies people who
> are
>>>>> looking at the team lookup that those people are looking to team.
>>>>
>>>> That /is/ broadcasting, good grief!
>>>
>>> No, it's holding up a sign.
>>
>> You're hopeless.
>
> Perhaps, but also correct.

Holding up a sign where everyone can see it, throughout the entire
server, /is/ broadcasting. Just because there's a "broadcast channel"
doesn't mean that other broadcast messages arbitrarily becomes something
else.
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Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
>> [LFT is] not broadcasting anymore than placing an advert in the
>> local classifieds.
>>
>> It's only apparent _if you're looking at it_.

Robotech_Master wrote:
> Someone need to tell the television people that they aren't
> broadcasting, because you can only see the shows if you turn the TV
> on.

Remember, you need to turn the TV on and tune to the right channel.
Opening the search window is not significantly different from opening a
broadcast or request channel window. Either one lets you "tune in" to
broadcast messages like the LFT advertisement.
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Dark Tyger wrote:
> Broadcasting is an active, continual effort. Turning on an LFT flag is
> a single active effort, but passive to maintain.

Do you think you could come up with a more bizarre re-definition of
"broadcasting"? Sending a message to the broadcast channel is not a
continual effort; are you claiming that it's not broadcasting either?
Turning on a radio tower is not a continual effort; that's not
broadcasting?
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:30:41 GMT, "Bradd W. Szonye"
<bradd+news@szonye.com> wrote:

>Dark Tyger wrote:
>> Broadcasting is an active, continual effort. Turning on an LFT flag is
>> a single active effort, but passive to maintain.
>
>Do you think you could come up with a more bizarre re-definition of
>"broadcasting"? Sending a message to the broadcast channel is not a
>continual effort; are you claiming that it's not broadcasting either?

Let's try this again on more than 3 hours' sleep...

Broadcasting is actively sending a message/signal out that is
"passively" received over a wide area. ( Even when the chat channels
are off, they're being received. Similarly, no matter what station a
radio is tuned to, it's constantly receiving the signal for all the
stations in range ) Putting up a sign that others actively have to
search to find isn't the same thing. You're not sending a message.
You're marking yourself for an automated search effort to find you.
Posting a resume on a web page isn't broadcasting it. Using a job
hunting service that will send it out to prospective employers is. See
the difference? One case, they have to find the message themselves. In
the other, the message "finds" them.

>Turning on a radio tower is not a continual effort; that's not
>broadcasting?

Well, on this note here, the radio tower is continually sending out a
signal, so a continual effort is being made.

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Xocyll wrote:
>>> It's not broadcasting anymore than placing an advert in the local
>>> classifieds. It's only apparent _if you're looking at it_.

Robotech_Master wrote:
>> Someone need to tell the television people that they aren't
>> broadcasting, because you can only see the shows if you turn the TV
>> on.

> Now you're being silly. Once the TV (or radio) is on, you don't have
> to actively do anything to be exposed to what it's broadcasting, you
> just have to be in range.

You must turn the TV on and tune it to the right channel. You must open
the toon search window and scroll to the right character. How is this
different?

> You can also be actively doing something else while the TV is on, bit
> hard to read the newspaper while actively doing something else.

It's also hard to read the broadcast channel while you're doing
something else. Does that mean it's not a broadcast?

> And that's the point, if you're broadcasting, people are getting the
> message with no effort on their part, LFT doesn't fit that category,
> while broadcast/request/Friends/SG chat/Tells/etc do.

If you stretch any harder, you'll pull a muscle. You and DT are sinking
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"Scorcho" <toxaristhrasoe@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Arguing analogies is rather silly, don't you think?

Yeah, it's kind of like jousting armadilloes.

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Dark Tyger wrote:
>>> Broadcasting is an active, continual effort. Turning on an LFT flag
>>> is a single active effort, but passive to maintain.

Bradd wrote:
>> Do you think you could come up with a more bizarre re-definition of
>> "broadcasting"? Sending a message to the broadcast channel is not a
>> continual effort; are you claiming that it's not broadcasting either?

> Let's try this again on more than 3 hours' sleep...
>
> Broadcasting is actively sending a message/signal out that is
> "passively" received over a wide area. ( Even when the chat channels
> are off, they're being received.

They are? By what, an invisible pink bunny?

> Similarly, no matter what station a radio is tuned to, it's constantly
> receiving the signal for all the stations in range )

Likewise, I'd like to see how you'll explain this.

> Putting up a sign that others actively have to search to find isn't
> the same thing.

Searching for LFT is no more active than turning on a radio.

> You're not sending a message.

This is just as bizarre as your last attempt.
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"Bradd W. Szonye" <bradd+news@szonye.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>Xocyll wrote:
>>>> It's not broadcasting anymore than placing an advert in the local
>>>> classifieds. It's only apparent _if you're looking at it_.
>
>Robotech_Master wrote:
>>> Someone need to tell the television people that they aren't
>>> broadcasting, because you can only see the shows if you turn the TV
>>> on.
>
>> Now you're being silly. Once the TV (or radio) is on, you don't have
>> to actively do anything to be exposed to what it's broadcasting, you
>> just have to be in range.
>
>You must turn the TV on and tune it to the right channel. You must open
>the toon search window and scroll to the right character. How is this
>different?

Everyone has the chat window up by default. The effort expended would
be to turn it OFF.

>> You can also be actively doing something else while the TV is on, bit
>> hard to read the newspaper while actively doing something else.
>
>It's also hard to read the broadcast channel while you're doing
>something else. Does that mean it's not a broadcast?

No it's not hard to do at all, since it's on the same screen as the
other game info.

It's pretty hard to fight with the team search screen up though.

>> And that's the point, if you're broadcasting, people are getting the
>> message with no effort on their part, LFT doesn't fit that category,
>> while broadcast/request/Friends/SG chat/Tells/etc do.
>
>If you stretch any harder, you'll pull a muscle. You and DT are sinking
>deeper and deeper into kookdom.

Nope.

The classified analogy is the best one for the LFT flag.

It's there, but you can't make people notice, not even the people who
open the team search function since, as this whole damn thread started
with, they'll happily send invites to people WHO DON'T HAVE THE FLAG set

In other words, you hit LFT and placed your classified, but they've
turned to the sports section.

A broadcast message on the other hand lets everyone in zone know you're
LFT no matter what else they happen to be doing at the time - it's right
there on screen.

Xocyll
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