Some Preliminary Results of AMD Thuban @ 2.8GHz (OC'd too)

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Do you think the final results will mirror these preliminaries or do you still think that Phenom II

  • Final results will mirror preliminary results

    Votes: 29 63.0%

  • Equally clocked Phenom II X6 will outperform Core i7s by a considerable margin

    Votes: 17 37.0%
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    46


So, unless I'm completely mistaken, it appears the Sandy Bridge platform will use a new LGA pinout (1155 versus 1156 - I bet people hope that's a mistake, unlike Socket 939, Socket 940 and AM2). Likewise, AMD's Bulldozer platform is also using a new socket, correct? If this is the case, then it probably doesn't matter which platform you buy if you're looking to upgrade over a year down the road, unless compatible processors are still produced for both platforms.
 



Nah, I meant what I said. I'm just referring to sockets that varied by only one pin.


Second line: Where is JDJ? We all need his resources!
 


Howzabout some groaning instead?? Us middle-aged folks like HB & me ain't as nimble or limber as we used ter be - must be all that beer consumption :kaola:

Anyway, methinks we already discussed the one preliminary test enough already - after all, you can only make so much of the benchies, and Chinese gives me a headache. I will mention however that Coolaler appears to be more on the respectable side than not, according to Xtreme Systems..
 


LOL, I guess so. Guess he popped his noggin up one too many times, like some sort of gopher. But what I said was true - if you discount taking potshots at people as a rather useless activity, then he brings little if anything to the discussion table.

To jenny: While I recommend the best buy (AMD or Intel) for anyone who asks their opinion, I am currently a biased AMD user and have only bought AMD products for myself in the past 5 years. Stop alienating me. :non: :pfff:
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You don't get jenny - she's not here to make friends & influence people - she has some sort of religious compulsion to bash Intel, not necessarily promote AMD. She has said as much in other threads. If some other CPU manufacturer (Via, I suppose 😛) made a better hammer, she'd be swinging that one. At any rate, she has little or no regard for the facts or fellow posters.

Good thing my Intel emo chip is defective, or else I'd have to take offense at her posts 😛.

To everyone else: Let's all just agree that the X6 will succeed if it performs at least as well as expected and has a competitively low price. There are plenty of people out there with existing AM2+/AM3 platforms that would welcome a boost in CPU power; and, there are plenty of people that haven't yet upgraded to Intel's Core i5/i7 and will have an option from AMD that competes aggressively with Intel on the price/performance front (maybe even efficiency or even efficiency/dollar). If Thuban doesn't do any of these things, God (or nature or advantageous statistical fluctuation or... jenny) help AMD.
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What this thread is about, is to counteract THIS one. Nobody says Thuban is going to suck (at least not in this thread that I have noticed). But unless the NDA gets lifted and the real benchies show something unexpected, it also doesn't look like "The world's fastest desktop CPU" either 😛.
 


Why isn't that interesting. Let's have a look at first comments in that thread from the usual intel fanboy crowd shall we?

'daship' -
Any i7 with Hyper threading will beat it, game over, get a life, move on.
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'Hellboy' -
another fanboi comment from the op..
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'failzersonstun' -
So, mods please change the title to "Thuban - world's slowest desktop coming" in the interest of accuracy 😀
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So umm yeah...what were you saying again? When one of you makes a garbage thread, of course I'm going to come in and cause trouble in it because that's all you lot ever do with mine.

If we had anything near to decent, unbiased mods here (we don't), clowns like you and hellboy would have been banned every bit as much as I had.

I'll be quite blunt as usual - I just don't care one whit so one of the biased mods might as well perma-ban me and get it over with. This forum will be shallow and boring without me and that's a fact lol. :)

Oh and btw, there are still no i7 980X's in newegg - ETA 19th...so no in no way, shape or form does that even count as a desktop cpu.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Extreme-3-33GHz-Processor-BX80613i7980X/dp/B003922WES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1271355607&sr=8-1

"This item has not yet been released" lol 😀

The way I see it, it needs to be available in reasonable numbers to count. Trust me, 1000's of people are not buying these chips at $1k - but there are none available - that can only mean one thing, a total lack of supply.

If the 1090T can beat the i7 975 (which incidentally is another extremely low volume part) then I'll stand by my comment that Thuban is indeed the worlds fastest desktop cpu.
 
Well the Extreme series is very much a niche market due to the inflated cost. I am sure everyone will have them but that is a lot of money to fork out by comparison. For the preliminary pricing, it doesn't look like Thuban will be short production part and that is where it will do the most damage. It doesnt have to be faster. The sheep at Best Buy, Fry's, etc see 6 cores then assumption is that they are getting more of something. It really only needs to equal or trade blows in its own price segment.
 
Your thread was just junk period. The title/claim of the thread junk. This one actually has some numbers in it while your thread was just flaimbait junk as normal.

And you got the nerve to say that the 980x doesn't count as a desktop cpu because it is out of stock at newegg. Yet say thuban is the fastest chip with no numbers, a NDA still on the chip and not one single x6 chip has been sold. Fail even more then usual.

 


Yeah, not sure why jenny bothers making comparisons when every single person knows that there exist huge numbers of comparison permutations, let alone those comparisons that are actually useful. Come on, jenny, let's compare the Thuban to something from Intel that a potential consumer would actually consider as an alternative.
 


Thuban is available in some Asian stores and you know what? It's probably sold more than the i7 980X has already.

Just because intel can waste a few $million on keeping a 980x wafer running, getting 2-3 chips out of it, does not make it a true production part. This 980X does not exist in production numbers but even if they only had one it would be enough to keep deluded intel fanboys happy that intel has the fastest cpu. 😗
 
You can't buy it on newegg or amazon.

How many other 'real' cpu's can you say that about?

I've just checked newegg and you can buy the gtx 470. You know what that means right? The i7 980X is in lower supply than the gtx 470. That is how few of these chips have been made.
 


You obviously fail to grasp the difference between bashing a post and bashing the poster. In our not-too-subtle way, we were mocking your silly thread, which you knew was silly to begin with since you didn't bother trying to link to any facts, other that a price. Please now explain how a low, low price equates to "fastest desktop CPU" when common sense tells us that price & performance are usually in an inverse relationship. Sort of like the difference between a $400 Yugo and a $400,000 Maserati??

Jenny, while you do have a sense of humor and are amusing when not spewing, the latter seems to be your predominant mode of discourse nowadays. THG allegedly wants to be a premiere tech site where tech fans of all persuasions can come for information & help & intelligent discussion. Flame wars are only interesting in the sense that the bystanders wanna see what funny insults the posters can come up with - in other words, like a mud wrestling match, or perhaps the Jerry Springer show here in the USA. Not exactly the audience THG is aiming for, no?

BTW, the 980X being on backorder at a number of sites like Zipzoomfly.com or Newegg, probably means that it is more popular than anticipated despite the sky-high price 😛..
 

Kinda like the gtx 480? I consider it milking the market, wich Intel Excels at doing. Ever wonder why the price of the 975 EE didn't go down? Even now with the 980x its still $969.
 


Well with that logic, you're saying that the HD 5870 was not real a gpu for the first few weeks it was released? :pfff:

 
So now your thuban is available on the black market in Asia you say. Are they selling ES's to people on the streets there? You can not order a x6 retail online period. While newegg has sold the 980x. And it is currently on tigerdirect right now.

We where not even talking about what chip will sell more. Of course the AMD will. Yet in your usual fail logic you brought that up for some reason.

Now you just make up a number in your dream world again. Intel is getting 2-3 chips per wafer? Taking this into consideration "In our manufacturing environment our factory teams have executed the ramp of our 32nm process superbly. We exceeded output expectations with lower costs than originally anticipated and are currently shipping over fifty SKUs on 32nm process. 32nm is our fastest ramping process ever and I am pleased to note we are accelerating the ramp of our third and fourth 32nm factories faster than our original plan, such that by early Q4 we will have four factories in production on 32nm," said Mr. Otellini. Yeah Intel is really having yield issues.....

And on dell.com you could configure a system with i7 980x in it as well. The i980x is in stock at the microcenter store in Atlanta and Kansas. And again it is on tigerdirect right now.

Keep on failing.
 
Well the Thuban raises another interesting question in my mind. I wonder if they will be able to fulfill their supply channels with enough of these? A 6 core CPU for 200ish should sell better than any other offering they have on the market wouldn't you think??
 
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