Steve Jobs says Adobe is Lazy and Google is Evil

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CChick

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[citation][nom]etichi[/nom]footsoldier, You sound like you have no software experience. Please step back from the keyboard.[/citation]

You got so much experience in iCrap thats why u got rated down ?

rofl

Mac is nothing but a PC loaded with a piece of shit OS that "claims" to be good.

it has a small ass market share, it sucks, but its still talking shit every day. wow. talk about assholes. Apple and its die hard fans, great job.
 

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You know what, Im all for the Zune HD and when or if the phone version comes out, I am getting it over an Apple any day. Whether it be flash, java or html, the Zune can handle it and it has an HDMI and an MS OS as well....
 

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[citation][nom]hakesterman[/nom]Google can't touch the Iphone. The Iphone will be around long after Google has passed and beenforgottin...................[/citation]

You wrote this to provoke the response that follows:

Are you out of your mind? Google is continually growing...so big, in fact, that it has the gall to appear to stand up to the Chinese Government. What has Apple stood up against? (do not confuse me with being sucked into the PR opp, but it still looks good for those a-political folks)

Oh, yeah...the governance of Google and Adobe has Apple stood up against... lol

Gotta shine a little light on the reality...
 

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Adobe is lazy. No x64 for Photoshop for MAC, despite being their main platform and having had x64 for almost a decade, and no x64 FLASH.

Google is doing some 'evil' things. They are ignoring their SMS customers who have been having activation issues for months. They do not provide any kind of support for their apps. They are starting to behave against their motto.
 

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I agreed with most ppl here. Adobe is definitely one lazy fat company and Google is one evil n greedy bloody company. But at least Google is doing a good job, im happy with the search engine, i use it a lot, nexus one is good, etc. Adobe in the other hand, yeah..laziness annoys me. BUT, steve job shouldn't go judge other companies without looking at his own first.
 

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[citation][nom]Boxa786[/nom]Google - free[/citation]
Google:

1) has such a big sack of money, that it could afford losing a lot of money with youtube just to keep pressure on other video content providers
2) has enormous marketing power and already began replacing sites like: sourceforge.net.
3) used it's power to push its "chrome" browser

There is no altruism in what they are doing. And the whole "don't be evil" marketing hype is indeed a pile of crap.
 

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[citation][nom]Dawntreader[/nom]i remember a quote from Bill where he said:"no one will ever need more than 640K"[/citation]
He didn't that. He said: "640k should be enough for everything", and for the time, it was.
 

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[citation][nom]techguy911[/nom]If flash is so bad why has my pc not crashed in over 10 years?I own my own computer business i fix pc's for a living and have never seen or heard about flash causing crashes on a pc only time it happens is when the flash program itself is corrupt and that is very rare.I have only seen it 3 times and is not common, flash does not have the worst security record going internet explorer hands down they only patch major problems, if you are having problems with flash its not flash but spyware or it is corrupt if flash is bad as he makes it out i would have complaints from 100's of customers i had over the years.[/citation]

My browsers (and I use a number of them: Opera, FF, IE7) crash and most of the time, it's some flash site.
 

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[citation][nom]kartu[/nom]My browsers (and I use a number of them: Opera, FF, IE7) crash and most of the time, it's some flash site.[/citation]

I notice no versions of Opera nor FF... IE7 is not even half way between IE6 and IE8...

Either way, your problem might be your older browsers.

Have you tried Google Chrome 4? You can get it for free and it installs faster than either of the browsers you've mentioned.

I live Opera for my phone. Firefox was a quick love... It's cute on Ubuntu, but is easily surpassed by Chrome in rendering. Finally, unless by IE you mean "In Essence" I can never see running a MIcrosoft Browser unless they invest a lot more into it...but why should they? Their OS market is thriving--and I love it...

I agree with techguy. Not only do I also have my own computer establishment (can't quite call it a business yet, but it's growing), but the least of my worries through the computers that I've fixed is an incompatible Flash plug-in. Sadly, Google Desktop has caused more problems for me than Flash lol...

That's not to say that Adobe is invincible or is better at what they do, but proper computer maintenance and security features will prevent most of the problems that people are spontaneously generating re: Flash. If you're that crazy about going to suspicious sites, SANDBOX! lol

So easy...

Whatever happened to the easy answers?
 

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[citation][nom]etichi[/nom]footsoldier, You sound like you have no software experience. Please step back from the keyboard.[/citation]

I don't agree with your insult, but it's still funny as hell...lol
 
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I was quite surprised to learn, that the iPad does not Multitask - i have to live with that in my iPhone, but a full computer with pre-windows 3.0 tasking capability - not really! I want to be able to get up to date during the trip to work - but this keeps my Aspire one on the job. Having a great thing for photo without a build in cardreader - not great either :-(
And YES - Flash IS flaky but it is out there, and it is heavily used, and until the world has moved on to HTML5, i would have Flash suppoort in the iPad.

Did I mention, that I cancelled my reservation for the iPad... ?
I decided to wait for the Mk. II release ....
 

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Wouldn't it be funny if Adobe, in retaliation to what jobs said, stop making sofware and support for OSX? That would just be epic.

We all know if Apple Supported Flash...there will be no point for the Apple Store for games and apps - well most of us tech minded drones know this but your average users are clueless. Anyone with an apple product can just download Flash Games and apps. This "IS" the number #1 reason why Steve does not want flash. Steve's not going to come out and say to the press "Well, if we support flash, no one would download and buy our products because they can download free flash games/apps. We don't want that!". Steve is beating around the bush.

Google....is just eating a part of Apple's Pie and Steve is mad. Thats all.
 
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"Steve Jobs says Adobe is Lazy and Google is Evil" and Apple are Stupid!
 

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[citation][nom]r3t4rd[/nom]Wouldn't it be funny if Adobe, in retaliation to what jobs said, stop making sofware and support for OSX? That would just be epic. We all know if Apple Supported Flash...there will be no point for the Apple Store for games and apps - well most of us tech minded drones know this but your average users are clueless. Anyone with an apple product can just download Flash Games and apps. This "IS" the number #1 reason why Steve does not want flash. Steve's not going to come out and say to the press "Well, if we support flash, no one would download and buy our products because they can download free flash games/apps. We don't want that!". Steve is beating around the bush. Google....is just eating a part of Apple's Pie and Steve is mad. Thats all.[/citation]

In this, we agree...
 

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Does Steve Jobs have anything to worry about? I don't know do you think a guy that cuts to the head of a line for an organ transplant and effectively steals it from a kid has an ego that lets him worry do you? Google is evil huh. Well then why do you hire from Google Steve? Is it to help you to “search” for organs to snag from dying little children.
Yup you heard it here first the iMessiah (Stevie-poo) has deemed all that do not serve him evil. “Icommand you not to use or purchase their evil products, and save your money for iphones, ipods, ipads, and imacs.” So you can build up enough points to get your iJumpsuits, iSneakers, and iPudding (goes great with vodka) from the iStore. Then you can transcend normal mindless commercialism and join the rest of the Moonie, Heaven's gate douche bags in iHell. after “I” have all of your damn money of course. iNervous, iNever!”

Don't try the Steve Jobs Iamsokool-aide it tastes like shit, cost and arm and a leg or a pancreas, and turns you into a broke elitists douche.

Bill Gates is evil to because Gates gave a 30 billion dollar endowment to save children around the world, driving up the prices for wacko cult leader Jobs to rip the organ's from the dying children that can't afford to jump the line. Bill Gates uses iPads to house (I mean Evil lair of evil) train his genetically engineered pygmy Tyrannosaur. That he got to replace the sharks with frikkin' lasers on their heads in his pool (they didn't like the underwater music bill plays when he swims). After that the Gates' Cylon butler hand delivers it to Jobs, with a invoice for repairs because at least now it really is a piece of crap worth $499.00. It turns out in fact that Godzilla does have shit on you, Steve. Fifty billion dollars worth of shit in fact.
 
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Is Steve Jobs becoming the IT Industry's equivalent of George Lucas? He seriously needs to shut the heck up...and for god's sake, Steve - BUY A BELT!
 

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I don't like Steve and neither do I like Apple but ... he's right this time. It's easy to be right when you're talking about your competition but still.
First there's Flash , having worked with it and used it , I can confirm it's really crappy and buggy. Especially the new kid in town, Flex. Having said that it is quite popular and until recently there were no real good alternatives to it. I once reported a bug for Flex on OS X and it's still not fixed so I think Steve has something there. The Flash player is lousy , it's probably only decent on 32 bit Windows , anywhere else and you can expect loads of problems.
As for Google , I'm really scared of how much power it has these days and yes I don't believe in the do no evil and think it's crap. Having said I do think they're nicer than Apple or anybody else for that matter.
 

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Uh... er... Ooook...
So, what kind of modern OS crashes because of Flash? Windows XP does not crash if flash goes dead. Linux does not crash.
So, MacOSX crashes if flash goes bad? Wow, really... THAT is an impressive feature!!!
As much as I don't like Apple, I find it hard to believe that Jobs was so stupid to say those things openly, I think this was more of an "interpretation" of the actual speech.
In just a few sentences he managed to piss off both Adobe and Google, two major companies that make Apple own fortune, c'mon, not even he can be so stupid!!!
 

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Doesn't matter if Flash is buggy or not, if 75% of the web use it, including ALL the major video and game site, shouldn't you find a way to make it work with your OS?

Deciding unilaterally which website content your people use is no differant that China filtering content to it's citizens.

BOOOO to Apple.
 
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The views of the copycat Mr Job$ are worthless; were he not the US media's poster child, the hype surrounding him would unwind. Mr Job$ rule depends on keeping its subjects technologically illiterate and afraid. Never give up your freedom for perceived security, especially if it also means throwing your money away on hyped mediocre hardware in look-good casing.
 

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the all new ipad is a joke..c'mon why would someone spend on a large size ipod touch?? !! "Google will wipe the floor with this guy" Boxa786 is so true!! No offence ipad lovers
 
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