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hey, yesterday was my birthday! last years average was 1175,4 points/day! thats considerably higher than my current avg.! no idea what's making that so low... (maybe I should reboot now, after 80 or so days uptime and constant folding.. - but its so nice to see that it is basically stable!)
well I'm going to drink to that, thats for sure! and I hope I can pump out the same avg. over the next year too!
cheers everybody! 😛
 
Which project / core you are working on seems to affect your average. At our current 24hr av. we can overtake 37 teams putting us around position 59 but only 22 inside 1 year to get to position 74. Our current 24hr av. is 68th.
 
Thanks everyone for all the help getting me setup with my farm. I've gotten my server up, running, and configured. I'm currently testing for stability, and getting a chance to play with linux again. 😀

I found a ton of ram on ebay cheap; so far it has all tested fine. I also picked up 60 socket 370s, mostly celerons a few p3s from 766-1200 (mostly looking for SSE) cheap too. Aside from a few bent pins & some thermal goo here and there, they look good.
I'm still waiting on my 48port switch to arrive.

As far as the server goes, sjonnie, i'm going with one of my boxes and a pIII 1000 (e or eb, i believe), we'll see how it works out for now. I figure worse case scenario, i'll just set up another one as a server. I've probably put too much $$$ into this as it is.

I should have a test run setup this week with 8+ clients and the server folding for us, 40 more in the next week or 2; then we'll see how much my electric bill is before i commit more :lol:

Thanks again for all of the help, I can tell you guys how much I appreciate it.
 
Actually...that's a good question...Some friends and i went down (with a guide...to keep us away from the class 4 stuff) the crap i can't remember the names...2 rivers in north central and eastern Wisconsin...maybe it'll come to me later...I have a pen with one of the rivers name on it...

Ahhh the Wolf river was one...i can't remember the other name, it had an indian name i think. Anyway, yea we did that first river you see in the picture, and the rapids were insane, i hadn't ever done anything like that before. We did it in the middle of Fall, and the water was up, omg cold. Anyway, that first drop was about 6ft or so, but it was in to a deep pool, so i didn't have any trouble with it, just had to stop at the next rock and dump the water heh. I credit myself to only flipping about 3x or so lol. Before that day, i had only flipped a couple of times. Once on the Chattahochie (man i can't spell) in GA, which at worst is a class 3, most of the time it's got 1 class 2 (horseshoe...) and the rest is easy (i flipped while standing up in the canoe...imagine that lol), and the natahala in south carolina or was it Tenn...anyway, at near flood stage. That was awesome...We were stopping every half mile or so to dump water. It was really funny, the 3 of us all flipped in the first 50 yards. There is a spot where the river comes to one skinny passage, and the water was up so high, that i knifed in to the second wave (when i shoulda turned sideways...meh) and literally sank. I lost my helmet on that run...like an idiot i had it in the boat but not tied down...who takes off without tieing down all the equipment? Honestly! meh. We were told it would take us 5hrs or so to make the run, it took i think an hour and a half. I even ran the fall at the end, that was a trip! (the first fall after the take-out, not the second lol, the second would have ripped me up bad).

Edit: Oops, i forgot to answer your question... The second river we went down in Wisconsin, i actually cracked the front deck plate, and have been wary of running any major rivers since. I haven't been ww canoeing since, honestly, and that's been two years. I have an ache to get back though...Especially now, that i've been cooped up for the last 3 months. Wisconsin: The guys that a buddy and i went with (the guide especially...), was nuts, seriously nuts. Background info: The first river started on an Indian Reservation (cost me like $120 all told...it sucks being white sometimes...), and the guide knew all the guys there, and knew about a party that was going on that night. What he didn't tell us, was that the 'party' was for an indian who had died diving in to shallow water on the river earlier that Fall. Well, so we went after canoeing, and i swear, when we walked in, everybody just turned and looked at us (i'd almost swear the music stopped too...but that might just be in my head...), i've never had such a urge to bolt in my life. But one of the ladies came up and our guide hugged her, and suddenly people stopped looking (the music started again...heh) and we began drinking. After our 2rd pitcher of beer (between 2 of us...the other guys were ordering their own beer), i decided i was well spent...And a buddy and i went back to the place we had rented out. Anyway, those other three guys, two of which happen to drink like fish, came back and wanted to know if we wanted to go crash a wedding reception they got invited to after we left...I turned that down (being a pussy and all...and wanting to keep my scalp...). They got back about 5am, completely smashed, the van was parked over the cement parking thing, and you could see where they drove up the wrong side through the yard to park there. So at 9am, we were on the next river, with our guide hung over, but still going lol. Anyway, we got to the last major rapid on that river, it didn't look to bad, which was called hammerhead falls or something or other, and i found out why it was called that... I took on a bit of water, and when i got to the bottom, there it was, calling to me...nothing i could do could steer that stupid canoe from its course, it knocked the wind out of me when i hit it...And so now i have a few good stories, and a cracked deck plate. /criesInToBeer
 
sorry to hear that! :cry:
while I hope that you'll join us again soon and your bedrooms structural integrity has not been affected to much, I'm also looking forward to what happens to our daily average, once cunninglinguists compaq-farm gets online... - what's up with that project? are the tests going alright :?:
 
Loking At My System Specs Below Im Sure I Could Add A Few Teraflops Myself 😛 LOL And Id Like Ta Know: Where Can I Get A 64-Bit Version (Or One Compatible With My Windows XP x64 Edition) That Supports Dual-Core
 
sorry to hear that! :cry:
while I hope that you'll join us again soon and your bedrooms structural integrity has not been affected to much
No worries. It was a small fire and plaster walls are pretty flame retardant. Things will be okay. It just sucks because I'm without a computer now, and I was working my way into the top 20 contributors for THGC. 🙁

I'm also looking forward to what happens to our daily average, once cunninglinguists compaq-farm gets online... - what's up with that project? are the tests going alright :?:
Yeah, I have to say, that project sounds damn cool. I'd like to know how it's going. :)
 
Hey guys, sorry to keep you in suspense. The small company I work for just gave one of our general managers the axe, so that puts yours truly working 12 hour days, 5 or 6 a week for the foreseeable future. On top of that, I’m getting farther and farther behind with my computer repair/ custom build business (wish I could put them together as fast as Crash claims he can).

I have the latest version of overclockix installed on one of the boxes. It has been up and stable for 4 days folding (amazingly). I sort of like the design of these little boxes: One fan (PSU) blowing straight up on a passive CPU heatsink. Though, I’m not sure what’s going to happen when I drop in a P3@1000. It should be Ok, since the voltage is significantly lower.
The 500 celeron is currently crunching p1136_p1130_L939_K12M_355K (221 points Tinker core) @ 30 minutes per frame (out of 400). This puts the average for one box at 1.22 points per hour or 26.92 per day, according to EMIII. Well within the deadline. Plus all of the CPU upgrades (I use that term lightly) have SSE, so gromacs may be a possibility; we’ll see. On the low end 100 of these will do about 2,700 a day at this rate. I’d like to see if I can get 50 of them to 3,000 first for the sake of my electric bill. That would easily put us in the 20,000 a day average.

I woke today to a 48 port switch from UPS :), BUT I seem to have somehow overlooked the fact that I don’t have a single USB keyboard anywhere, and all of the compaqs (save one) are “Legacy-Free”. So, I’m waiting on some adaptors to arrive so I can set the BIOS to not halt on keyboard & mouse errors. Oh yea, I haven’t bothered to order any thermal paste yet to swap the procs, and I’m about broke, so my newegg order (which somehow always has WAY more stuff than I plan to order) is going to have to wait a week or so :cry:

One of the laptops I have to repair does have a pxe boot option, so I may give it a whirl sometime tonight.

I’m trying really hard not to get discouraged here, but sometimes I think I would have been better off just B00rging the local library and Circuit City.

The bottom line right now, unfortunately, is that we aren’t going to see any points from this for a minimum of two weeks.

I appreciate the interest and support in my project. I’ll keep everyone posted as it develops.
 
Hey, do you have a website with a donate to Paypal system set up? Maybe some of us would be willing to donate a little here or there to help you with the project and keep it running. With a mailing address, maybe we could even send you some of our spare parts to keep things running. (Like some PS2/USB adapters.) Heck, maybe we could even convince TG to throw you a bone every now and then to go towards the electric bill...

Of course, maybe I'm too much of an optimist for my own good sometimes too. 😳
 
Thanks slvr_phoenix. I really appreciate the support. If anyone is interested in donating to me, please PM me.
Ok here's the latest. I slept in after a 60 hour work week in a restaurant (i don't recommend that to anyone, the work week that is, not sleeping in 😉 ). Now I'm back to the farm, letting my other work slide for today. My adaptors came, and i have all of the equipment i need, although a few more monitors, or at least a quick release VGA plug would be nice.
I installed overclockix to the HD. After endless configuration, I found out in one of the forums that the latest version that i downloaded 3.79 is considered buggy, at best.
Sooooo, I downloaded an old version (the one the limited documentation explains) LTSP 2.1. It is currently installing on my server.
Hopefully this will fix by PXE boot issue (i.e. the NIC isn't seeing an image at all).
If anyone has experience with PXE booting, PLEASE drop me a line. All of the boxes have built in Intel 100 NIC's, they seem to be widely supported. I keep getting the error message "check your cable" so it definitely isn't seeing a bootable image. BTW, I checked the cable :wink:
Hopefully, this is all a glitch in 3.79. If not, I'm updating the bios in all of these, which is a whole new can of worms. They have no floppies. The only way i can think of is a network bios upgrade, but according to compaq, I'm going to end up buying software.
Does anyone know how to burn a floppy image to a CD with nero? If so, is it a reliable way to upgrade the bios?
Well, back to the grind. I new this wouldn't be easy, but i was hoping it would be easier.
Thanks again for the ongoing interest and support.
 
Ok changed the linux install, tried again, and nothing.
BUT, i swapped boxes, and what do you know... worked like a charm. Must have been a dead NIC on the box 😳
Now, All i have to do is start cleaning out the room i have for the farm and cutting cat5. I'm psyched 😀
Wish me luck...
 
Good luck with the project. I wish I could start a F@H farm, but I dont have my own home. Hmm, maybe I could stuff a few PCs under my dorm room bed :lol:
 
A dorm room would be ideal (utilities included). Just replace all of your furniture with PC's. Eight beige boxes would make a great TV stand :) You could fit 20 of these Compaqs I have under a bed.
 
*lol*
that would be an original furnishing for a dormroom! 50 folding compaqs and a fat wLAN router so you don't fall over the cables, all the time...
so you really have the suspense killing me: honestly, the config works now? the clients get their workload? folding in progress?
I want to congratulate you to your idealism whether it'll work out or not, one thing's for sure: you'll have learned a lot! and thanks for the interesting links in your previous post!
cheers!
 
Yea, only thing from stopping me is the $$$ needed to buy all the equipment and the noise and heat generated. The AC in my room is bad and it gets pretty hot here in the summer. :cry: I might try it in a couple of months with 4 PCs.

Oh yea, and another thing that keeps me from doing this is the big subwoofer of my Z-5500 speakers that I have under the bed. Maybe if the strong magnetic field does not affect the PCs without a hard drive, I might do it.
 
Just ran some cat5 from my internet connection to "the room". I have the server up and one client right now. I should have several more on by morning.

I've hit a few more snags. These boxes won't boot w/o a keyboard & mouse with the current bios, and I haven't figured out a way to upgrade it.
So, I downloaded a copy of Altiris which is recommended by HP to upgrade the bios via the network. It requires an SQL server. I tried to get M$'s, but it requires .NET 2.0 (I’m running 2k pro on my main rig) not only would .net not install, but the "update" for my sata controller took it out completely. I can't figure out how to uninstall it either :evil:
So, I tried MySQL, to no avail. It won't install either.

So, short of an upgrade, I'm going to need a keyboard & mouse, and probably a monitor to boot them every time the power goes out or a blow a fuse :cry:

When it's all said and done, I'll try and post some pics.

I promise points in 10 days
 
I just bought the stuff for my first dedicated folding rig. I got these parts from newegg.:

PC CHIPS M825G V9.2A Socket A VIA KM266Pro Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - OEM
HIPRO HP-P3507F5 ATX12V true 300W Power Supply - OEM
WINTEC 256MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM (PC 2700) Memory Model 35134588-P - Retail

I already have an AMD Duron 750 that ill be using for it. It wont be so fast but it will work fine until I get more money for a better CPU. Ill be running it without video, sound, usb and any other unnecessary things to lower heat production. Im going to mount it all on a board of some sort, maybe plexiglass.

Now I have to figure out a way to turn my WinXP main PC into a F@H server for the dedicated folding pc.

Do you think it would damage the motherboard and components if I put the dedicated folding PC a couple of feet from a 10" sub? I know that it damages hard drives, but I wont be using a hard drive.
 
If you figure out how to use an M$ OS to boot these let me know.

In my limited knowledge, I know you need at least a DHCP & TFTP server. I'm sure there is more. If you know your way around linux, you could see what all fires up when you start the "terminal server" on overclockix. It's a live CD, so you don't even need to install it on your HD to test it. BTW if you go that route. Make sure you use 3.4 or LTSP 2.1 (the one I'm using now) for a server, not 3.79. 3.7 works for a standalone box.

I don't see why windows couldn't serve up a Linux OS image, but I have no idea how to do it.

UPDATE:
Switch is configured (I broke down and used the CD).
I currently have 9 clients folding.
My fingers are sore from capping/ splicing Cat5 cable.
I'm calling it a night.

I think my poor little compaq is starting to reach it's limit on clients. They are booting slower & slower. I am actually considering using my main rig as a server, but I'm not sure I can live without windows. A hard drive upgrade on the compaq may buy me some time.

Also, I was previously able to access the folding files on the server through my 2k Pro system, but now the window locks every time I try? I'm not sure if it's my now flakey windose install (since my sata controller "upgrade"), the server, or what. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Quick question for one of the linux gurus reading this:
Can I take the hard drive out of the box it's in and put it in a different one? Will the OS boot? Windows 98 would, after a few reboots. I know the NT OSs won't (win 2k, XP, etc.). I have a little hope since it appears as if linux configures each device at boot time.
Thanks everyone.
 
I just had an idea, do you think it would work if I ran the LTSP 2.1 in a VMWare/Virtual PC emulator? Since I dont have a spare PC to use as a server, Im going to have to either find a way to serve linux images under windows or if possible, run Linux in a Virtual PC window.
 
additionally...you need to make sure it is not the graphical client...and you need to tell it to run as instances 0 and 1...rather then both as 0...as each defaults to.

That option is under advanced i believe, in the "no nonsense" version of the software.
 
Great news cunninglinguist! 😀 😀 😀

Found a site that explains how to use Windows as the server:
http://reilly.homeip.net/folding

Click on the HOW TO link next to "Windows Network Boot Diskless Folding".

UPDATE: I set up the tftpd server and got it up and running :) I used a laptop to test the server and it booted up linux but said it couldnt find FAH502-Console.exe. It was because I didnt set up the DHCP in tftpd correctly.

Heres my setup: I have 2 NICs in my main server PC. One connects to teh school network and the other to a router. The router has IP 192.168.0.2, and it is connected to my NIC with IP 192.168.0.1. I enabled Internet Connection Sharing on the NIC that connects to my school network with teh Network Setup Wizard.

The settings I used for tftpd are:
IP pool starting address: 192.168.0.13
Size of pool: 10
Boot file: pxelinux.0
WINS/DNS Server: 192.168.0.1
Default Router: 192.168.0.1
Mask: 255.255.255.0
Domain Name: [Blank]
Additional option: 0 [Blank]

SECOND UPDATE: I closed the program and tried to open it again and it crapped out on me. It will no longer work. Gives me an error about bootp port. Will have to find alternative program. but give tftpd32 a try. it might work for you.
 
I was just wondering, I understand that the 600 pointers may be great but they are not the best.

what are?

and do they fit in the none 5MB catagory?

i was thinking about unchecking that if it would help to speed me up.

what's your thoiught?

also.. might be a good idea to make a list of most effective WUs.
 
Four words: You Are The MAN!!
That's great. I'm going to have to play with it a bit. Currently, my setup won't support running both on the same network. My current server is maxed out at 8 clients.

BTW the mini-farm turned in it's first WU today. 8)

Just a thought: You don't have to turn off DHCP completely on your router. Just make sure that the addresses do not overlap. When the comp tries to boot through the network, at has to see more than just an address. I have DHCP from .30 to .45 on my router, and the linux DHCP server from .46 - .250.

My next test is to compare the boot images. The overclockix version actually folds under wine, because the windows client is faster. So, I should at least be able to move my work directories. Perhaps I'll test both of the images on the exact same hardware, at the same time to see if there is a difference. I'm sure that the overclockix image could be loaded with the software you linked to.

Did you try to set the interval in the FAH config file? The version that I’m running allows you to change it there, and I really don't see how or why you would take the FAH client out of the loop in regard to saving work. Open the client.cfg and look for
checkpoint=x
where x is in minutes.

Good luck

Thanks again.